I am surely willing to argue with you, if you are able to stick to facts instead of emotionally perceived truths.
The Traffic Light coalition had to balance Germany’s pro-Israel stance with growing criticism of Israel’s conduct in Gaza. After an initial phase of strong support (due to Germanys so called “Staatsräson”), the coalition became more critical, slashed arms exports in 2024 compared with 2023, and provided major humanitarian aid to Gaza. Saying they “cheered for genocide” is polemical and mislead. Maybe you should reconsider your news sources.
Also, nuclear power is not a viable path for Germany. New plants are too expensive, take too long to build, and offer hardly any practical advantage over faster expansion of renewables, grids, and storage. The Greens acted accordingly. You COULD criticize the ban of nuclear power in the first place - but that was the doing of the CDU/SPD, not the Greens.
I somewhat agree with you regarding taxation. They could have done more. But then again: they were in a coalition with two parties, that are ideologically very different. It’s far from precise to measure a partys moral by the actions of a coalition in which they were a junior-partner. Stop dealing in absolutes.
Annanela Baerbock literally said it is fine to murder Palestinian children and spread misinformation about beheadings and rape, many many times. She justified, supported and cheered for genocide. This was not just political compromise, it was her personal position and I would argue that it is just reflection of her family’s Nazi past. She is personally complicit in murder of 70000 identifiable Palestinians, including 20000 children. She should have been thrown out of the party if the party is not of green washing.
So you clearly haven’t made any effort, which basically says that you are discussing in bad faith.
But here is one example, where Baerbock spreads misinformation about rapes, argues against stopping of the murders by Israelis, says “Palestinians enjoy slaughtering women” to justify their slaughter through the hands of Israel.
Here is another: In March 2024, Baerbock says in her speech in the German Bundestag that Palestinians have lost their civilian protection status. Meanwhile, by end of December 2023, Israel had murdered 21000 Palestinians, with overwhelming majority of them being civilians, 9000-11000 of them children. She continued to support sending weapons to Israel, opposing a ceasefire, while calling ICJ’s case against Israel on genocide as ‘baseless’. Her statements and actions have again and again justified genocide, mass murder and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
So you clearly haven’t made any effort, which basically says that you are discussing in bad faith.
No. I just won’t let extreme accusations stand unquestioned like that. And frankly, why would you get so upset about that? If your accusations are well-founded, where’s the problem?
Yet, you haven’t shown where she “cheered for genocide” or “literally said it is fine to murder Palestinian children”. If you boldly make these claims, you should have the facts to back them up.
I am surely willing to argue with you, if you are able to stick to facts instead of emotionally perceived truths.
The Traffic Light coalition had to balance Germany’s pro-Israel stance with growing criticism of Israel’s conduct in Gaza. After an initial phase of strong support (due to Germanys so called “Staatsräson”), the coalition became more critical, slashed arms exports in 2024 compared with 2023, and provided major humanitarian aid to Gaza. Saying they “cheered for genocide” is polemical and mislead. Maybe you should reconsider your news sources.
Also, nuclear power is not a viable path for Germany. New plants are too expensive, take too long to build, and offer hardly any practical advantage over faster expansion of renewables, grids, and storage. The Greens acted accordingly. You COULD criticize the ban of nuclear power in the first place - but that was the doing of the CDU/SPD, not the Greens.
I somewhat agree with you regarding taxation. They could have done more. But then again: they were in a coalition with two parties, that are ideologically very different. It’s far from precise to measure a partys moral by the actions of a coalition in which they were a junior-partner. Stop dealing in absolutes.
Annanela Baerbock literally said it is fine to murder Palestinian children and spread misinformation about beheadings and rape, many many times. She justified, supported and cheered for genocide. This was not just political compromise, it was her personal position and I would argue that it is just reflection of her family’s Nazi past. She is personally complicit in murder of 70000 identifiable Palestinians, including 20000 children. She should have been thrown out of the party if the party is not of green washing.
Then, I’d like to see a source for her literally saying thid.
For this too, please.
It’s not hard to make a quick web search yourself.
You’re the one making the claim, so you should have and provide the sources.
So I kindly ask you again, as I am genuinely curious.
I think this guy is a lost case.
Did you ever learn about Hitler and Nazis through your own research? Or do you always ask for sources and proofs to anyone saying ‘Nazis are bad’?
So I take it you won’t provide sources for these statements of yours?
So you clearly haven’t made any effort, which basically says that you are discussing in bad faith.
But here is one example, where Baerbock spreads misinformation about rapes, argues against stopping of the murders by Israelis, says “Palestinians enjoy slaughtering women” to justify their slaughter through the hands of Israel.
Here is another: In March 2024, Baerbock says in her speech in the German Bundestag that Palestinians have lost their civilian protection status. Meanwhile, by end of December 2023, Israel had murdered 21000 Palestinians, with overwhelming majority of them being civilians, 9000-11000 of them children. She continued to support sending weapons to Israel, opposing a ceasefire, while calling ICJ’s case against Israel on genocide as ‘baseless’. Her statements and actions have again and again justified genocide, mass murder and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.
No. I just won’t let extreme accusations stand unquestioned like that. And frankly, why would you get so upset about that? If your accusations are well-founded, where’s the problem?
Yet, you haven’t shown where she “cheered for genocide” or “literally said it is fine to murder Palestinian children”. If you boldly make these claims, you should have the facts to back them up.
So do the quick Web search and proof it?
I have no interest in continuing a discussion on that basis, so I am leaving it here.
I don’t expect genocide supporters make any good arguments.