• Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Shit. I’m dumb, and I could see past his lies. Nah, they on another lower level, a stupidity that we don’t got a word for as humans.

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        4 months ago

        It’s not “dumb” - some of those voters have advanced degrees like a PhD or MD - so much as it is an emotional preference for authority. I likewise take a lot on faith daily - like I am not personally an expert in nuclear physics, or economics, etc. - and in the same manner such voters have been shown to rely more upon what they are told by experts, like news media, than what they see with their own eyes.

        Which in itself is not “wrong”, so much as it has been twisted (by corruption of the media).

        Also, go back and watch that historic debate between Biden and Trump. Both are geriatric, but one could at the time at least form a coherent sentence. So based solely on that debate, how would you vote? Or should making oneself knowledge about matters have been made a prerequisite to vote?

        It was democracy itself that led us to this point. It’s tough to implement properly.

        Whereas on Lemmy the attitude that I see most prevalent is “they dumb”, ignoring the complexity of the various processes and making people feel superior (tribal), as if the same identical trends were not also happening in virtually every democracy world-wide. Failure to properly diagnose the true underlying causes is simply going to lead to the identical outcome everywhere else as well… Like in a few years Canada may not so much be conquered so much as literally ask for the USA to allow it to join?

        So I would advise not to be so quick to turn to an answer that provides emotional satisfaction without the benefit of it (entirely on its own) being fully, genuinely the absolute underlying cause.

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          4 months ago

          I’m curious as to what circumstances could unfold in which Canada would be asking to join the USA in the next 100 years, let alone in “a few” years.

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            4 months ago

            Voting, the same as happened in the USA, where I would have said identically about it as well, 10 years ago.

            There seem to be a lot of Trump supporters north of the USA border.

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          4 months ago

          As if you can’t have advanced degrees and be stupid in other areas at the same time, ignorant and stupid and emotionally volatile and immature people are the ones that voted for that turd

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          4 months ago

          That’s alot to read and I’ll read it later. But that first part.

          No yea I agree. There are a lot of folks on that side who are smart as all fuck. I think when I say dumb I’m more tongue in cheek(?) Type of insult. They’re dumb for their beliefs and dumb for how they act. I definitely have met some who are out right geniuses in what they do, but they just have dumbass views.

          I’ll read the rest of your post later, as it was interesting, but the duty of being a Father calls.

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              4 months ago

              It’d be a lot easier if they were just dumb. The sad part is they aren’t. Some of em are morons, but you know that when you see em…it sucks folks who can be so smart can be so greedy and hateful. I don’t understand, folks. I just try to live and let live. But it seems to be getting harder and harder to even live that way anymore.

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          4 months ago

          those have to be purchased degrees or ones earned via paying someone else to do the work. IIRC when that actress or something got caught paying someone to do her kids’ work a bunch of those workers admitted to existing and having done it for a lot of wealthy people