Until we actually know what the implementation looks like it’s impossible to say that.
Gonna be real hard to argue you’re being persecuted for posting because your car pulled over after it detected you leaving your lane 10 times while also detecting eyes off the road.
my wild take of ‘maybe get mad at stuff that is actually real instead of reading a clickbait headline that is already detached from reality and then going even further making up even more stuff that isnt real to scare yourself with’
You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here’s is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs.
For a better look here is an example:
In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
So that tech that spies on you did nothing?
In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened
In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened
Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022.
No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’. Stop trying to pivot to the abstract concept of surveillance.
Because literally the only actual fact behind this clickbait is that the NHTSA is supposed to mandate passive BAC detection. That’s it. The rule does not exist yet, the headline is pure fiction. The tech is pure fiction.
Any bullshit of ‘ohhh this is going to uhhhhh oppress me for wrongthink’ is pure fiction. There are no specifics behind this thing that isn’t real so you’ve just wrapped it up into this abstract blob of ‘spying’ because it’s something you can get mad at.
Also obviously the thing that doesn’t exist hasn’t influenced safety statistics what the fuck are you talking about.
You can’t honestly believe that mass surveillance will help prevent those deaths, right?
It won’t. It’ll be used punitively.
Until we actually know what the implementation looks like it’s impossible to say that.
Gonna be real hard to argue you’re being persecuted for posting because your car pulled over after it detected you leaving your lane 10 times while also detecting eyes off the road.
Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time.
Yeah man fuck reality you’ve got the world in your head that may or may not exist
Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes.
my wild take of ‘maybe get mad at stuff that is actually real instead of reading a clickbait headline that is already detached from reality and then going even further making up even more stuff that isnt real to scare yourself with’
You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here’s is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs.
For a better look here is an example:
In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us
So that tech that spies on you did nothing?
In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened
In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened
Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022.
Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here.
Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then.
No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’. Stop trying to pivot to the abstract concept of surveillance. Because literally the only actual fact behind this clickbait is that the NHTSA is supposed to mandate passive BAC detection. That’s it. The rule does not exist yet, the headline is pure fiction. The tech is pure fiction.
Any bullshit of ‘ohhh this is going to uhhhhh oppress me for wrongthink’ is pure fiction. There are no specifics behind this thing that isn’t real so you’ve just wrapped it up into this abstract blob of ‘spying’ because it’s something you can get mad at.
Also obviously the thing that doesn’t exist hasn’t influenced safety statistics what the fuck are you talking about.
The breathalyzer, how can you not see that?
Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us?
Can you explain how this tech that doesn’t exist will be used against you?
This regulation, which doesn’t exist but was due to be implemented, is not meaningfully different than requiring a passive breathalyzer interlock.
If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don’t stop them, why will this one?
By preventing engine startup or with a very low speed limiter presumably.
And how do they know you’re drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples?
That’s the thing from the article they linked to. NHTSA says the tech does not exist yet, hence why they are asking for an extension.