• Lucy :3@feddit.org
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    2 months ago

    Please literally replace any instance of “German’s Merz” with “Coal, Gas & Car lobby”

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      Please literally replace any instance of “German’s Merz” with “Coal, Gas & Car lobby”

      On the topic (autotranslated):

      “PURPLE – Change from the VDA”: A leaked position paper from the Union shows how the party allows entire passages to be dictated by the automotive industry lobby association. No problem for the CDU.

      https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/cdu-uebernimmt-ganze-passagen-vom-lobbyverband-der-autoindustrie-a-b2e50c86-bf61-4d5e-95bd-27db95989b40

      • HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org
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        The ironic thing is that all this won’t help the German car industry at all. The transition to EVs is inevitable and it is coming fast. For Germany, this means that a lot of people in so far pretty well-off regions are either going to need new jobs, or will depend on welfare - the same way as coal workers in the Ruhr area in the 1980ies, or ship builders in Bremerhaven, Glasgow and Manchester in the 90ies.

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          And that’s also the consequence of using a “market-driven approach”. If you want the market to take care of the clean energy transition by pricing, you accept that any companies that don’t adapt will go bust.

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    2 months ago

    Sounds like German automotive is still not learning that they’ll be irrelevant if they keep kicking the can down the road. Do it, China isn’t going to wait.

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      As a German I welcome that. It finally kills the pro car lobby in Germany and we get the cities we actually should have in the first place.

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        If you ever visitied a country lacking an own car lobby - no, getting rid of your domestic car lobby does not make cities livable. You need politics actually centered on the common good.

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          German cities already have pretty good public transport and density. That is the actually expensive bit. You pretty much have to just have to get rid of cars in some areas, remove parking lots and lanes and add some bike lanes. Even that is slowly happening in most cities. If you weaken the car lobby, then you could get some very quick massive improvements. Just look at what Paris is doing as an example, but maybe not quite as quick and radical.

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          2 months ago

          Most German cities do, but it would be much easier and faster with a weaker opposition.

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      Oh, they did learn their lesson. They can do whatever they want, they will always be saved by the government.

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      German automotive is learning, and excelling. Porsche and Mercedes have huge electric programs, and outshine everyone else in the west. Especially at self-driving, they have the only full self driving cars, which Tesla cannot replicate.

      So, they’re lying. Common sense check? China’s cars are better than Germany’s. Yeah, that’s bullshit.

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        Doesn’t matter if you have to pay 100.000 Euros for such a car and you can get a china one for 35.000… people vote with their wallet and fact is, not many have that much money laying around

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          there’s now plenty of European EVs around the €20 000 mark that are good enough, same as the Chinese. There’s going to be plenty of Chinese cars in Europe, same as Japanese or Korean, but this notion peddled by some people that the European brands are going to disappear is just moronic.

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            Which ones?

            The one I know is Dacia Spring, which has very little range and 1 NCAP star.

            Others start around 30k.

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              You can get here a Renault 5 for €16 726 right now, although that’s a special offer and will go back to 20 something soon enough.You also have the eC3 which is selling for €19 654 right now.

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    2 months ago

    It’s not a combustion engine ban. it’s about not producing new ones.

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    He is right. We should scrap the 2035 target and move it to 2030 instead.

    Yes, I know that thisnis not wahrnehmen meant. Merz is the slightly better educated and mannered German version of Trump and behaves accordingly.

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    I am so fucking fed up with every right wing numbnut calling it a combustion engine ban. It does not ban combustion engines.

    All manufacturers need to do, is make their combustion engines clean, then they can continue selling them 2035 and beyond. But it’s obvious, they are incapable of doing so, combustion engines have been pretty stagnant, almost as if they have reached their limits…

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    No paywall: https://archive.is/SUJqL


    “We made the wrong decision, and we will correct it,” said the German chancellor at a conference of his SME association in Cologne. He would “put a spoke in Brussels’ wheel.”

    It’s insane how they fetishize fossiles.