• Reygle@lemmy.world
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    reads title of article
    Verbally said “god I hope so.”

    Then I read the article, and now I’m just thinking I hope it all burns immediately. I want to see the data center fires from my house.

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    For those of you cheering for the AI bubble to pop…

    AI investments now accounts for about 40% of the United States’ GDP growth in 2025, and AI companies are responsible for 80% of growth in American stocks.

    …are you not scared shitless?

    This is not the dotcom bust, and it’s far fucking worse than the 2008 housing crisis. And to think when I was young the Savings and Loan crisis was a big deal. We’re on the edge of Great Depression 2.0.

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      …are you not scared shitless?

      the longer the bubble keeps going, the worse it will be… those of us convinced this is already a massive bubble believe the best time for it to pop was yesterday, the next best time is right now

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        Yea, the best thing for bubbles is to pop early and often before they start snowballing. These companies have negative net revenue and are burning billions. The tech is neat, but I don’t think text generators are going to completely revolutionize industries the way the industry is presenting them. NVIDIA giving OpenAI money to give to Oracle to give back to NVIDIA just screams house of cards.

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      The best thing about this shit show is el spastico’s trade war having readied other countries for hard times and pushed them to diversify and make new trade deals. The US deserves its suffering completely, and now they will drag the world down less when they shit the bed.

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      What? For my third once-in-a-lifetime economic crisis? There’s no way this isn’t going to suck. We’re all doomed no matter what.

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        You have no clue what “doomed” means if you think what’s coming compares to anything since the Great Depression and WWII.

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      I personally prefer to rip off the band aid than let it stink and get it infected. I’m scared for the time remaining before the pop. This shit is intolerable. Let it “pop”. Let it burn.

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      I think you should only be scared if you own AI stocks and I would guess not a whole lot of common people can even afford to invest in stock. Let those rich idiots lose their money. Maybe they will learn a lesson

      • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.uk
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        Unfortunately, stocks tend to move in sympathy with each other due to various factors, such as large ETFs and algorithmic trading. Natural price action is kind of broken at the moment.

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          Absolutely, plus since index funds are cap weighted, ordinary retirement fund investing folks are very much vulnerable to it.

          If I pull up VTSAX (vanguard total stock market index fund) what I find is…

          Sectors: Technology is 38% of the fund and I see 11 sectors listed.

          Top 10equity holdings, in order from the top:

          NVDA MSFT AAPL AMZN META AVGO (Broadcom) GOOGL TSLA GOOG BRK.B (Almost like its own index fund)

          This is fine!!

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      Oh no, we won’t be able to afford houses or rent or save for retirement or- hang on just a second…

      Wait, we already can’t do those things, and the last thing I want to do is, once again, validate the existence of people I would prefer to see in little pieces scattered all over the street for all the pain and suffering they’ve caused just to get a little more money on top of their billions.

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        Guessing you have no idea what the Great Depression was like. My parents grew up in it.

        Great Depression: 30% unemployment

        2008 crisis: 4.2% economic contraction

        If you think modern America is bad now, boy oh boy, you’re about to get an education on how bad it can really get.

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          Ok? And this is relevant how? I’m Canadian, so pretty tied to the US’s bullshit at the moment, but damn where’s this US bravery I keep hearing so much about?

          Deflection isn’t going to solve your problems.

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      Serious question: what if I am, and have no idea how to prep for it?

      My pension and other things are tied up in stocks and such, if there’s a crash coming I’d think cash under the pillow would be better than stocks. But how do you do that, with your pension?

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        I moved the majority of my 401k allocations to international markets and have stopped contributing more than the match minimum. I’ve lost on some serious short term gains but I’m not risking holding the bag with my kid’s future.

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    If so, what will the next bubble be? Because there is always a next bubble standing ready to go! Virtualization bubble, cloud bubble, container bubble, web 3.0 bubble, bitcoin bubble, block chain bubble, AI bubble… We’ve had a few over the past 20 years

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    On the other side of the deal, OpenAI will have to pay about $60 billion per year to fit the bill for the agreement. It currently generates about $10 billion in revenue, which, statistically speaking, is less than $60 billion.

    ok.

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    The company’s development and expansion of its services will rely in no small part on massive data center projects, which will require the same amount of energy to operate as New York City and San Diego combined—energy that currently isn’t even available.

    In that case, there is a little but fundamental problem. It is based on basic physics: You can fake securities or earnings, or you can print money. But you can’t fake energy because that violates the laws of physics.

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      What if we turned off all the poor people’s power nation-wide, would that be enough?

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    Are brown shoes like a fashion thing among these people, kind strange that in the photo they all have brown shoes

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      The powerbrokers have gotten into fashion trends, they absolutely do shit like this.

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    I’ll just offer some facts as a counterpoint to the prevailing narrative here.

    My employer, a major multinational tech company, is pushing AI use internally so hard it hurts. After studying it they announced it was saving our software engineers about 4 hours a week net, or half a day. Thats as of now with adoption still growing and new tools being explored constantly. Half a day weekly is 10% of our software engineering budget which is a large number, and the company will without a doubt pay a significant sum to continue getting that benefit to get more out of their staff, who are their biggest cost of doing business.

    I live in the dissonance between, on the one hand, the narrative in places like Lemmy that AI is shit and doesn’t do anything right and these companies have no monetization plan, and on the other hand, seeing it dramatically change my enterprise workplace and provide real value.

    Yes engineers are confirming to my very own ears that they are using AI tools and they have their uses and save them time and toil. For example, we had one version update to push through hundreds of teams all with disparate front end code, and it was not possible to just script the update for them all because custom integration work would always be needed, but we did come up with a prompt that could use a set of documentation and entity mappings to accomplish the update in under a minute with a high rate of success. This is just how things are staring to get done. It hasn’t replaced engineers, but it is fast becoming one of their most powerful tools.