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Google is making it mandatory to have Play Services for its next-generation reCAPTCHA system on Android.
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Your phone will need to be running Play Services version 25.41.30 or greater when the system asks you to scan a QR code for verification.
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This hurdle means that de-Googled phones will fail the verification test by default.
Then I’ll just not use the services that use it, very stupid, as this shouldn’t be necessary
I mean, OK… Until every bank, government service, health care provider, etc implements this.
That’s gonna be really hard with the increasing amount of sites that push this.
Wtf
Ignoring the de-Googled phones for a sec: I assume if you’re using a desktop, then the QR shows up and you have to drag out your phone to scan it in the camera app that then prompts to open the google play store. Dumb, but possible for people who have a phone with Android. What about those that don’t? Would you need a google account?
Now if it’s all on phone (using Chrome or Firefox or whatever) and pops up a QR code, you can’t scan it… but the browser would have to open the play store directly and thats a huge security no-no. The browser shouldn’t even know I have the Play Store.
I have a feeling the hundreds of us that are de-Googled ad just going to stop using these sites all together.
The browser shouldn’t even know I have the Play Store.
Every app on your Android phone knows every other app you have installed. GrapheneOS are trying to solve this but it’s challenging.
What about people who use iPhones? Even if I used a normal google android I wouldn’t want to be bothered to scan a qr code with my phone to verify myself every time
…and what about iPhone owners?
https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652
According to this support page only older iOS versions would need additional app. So I can assume Apple and Google collaborate on that and Apple added the “feature” in newer iOS already.
Bro wtf? Time to stop using the website using these anti-competitive captchas. I hope they get fined for this
And desktop users? Will Linux and any non-Google Chrome browsers be locked out now?
You’ll probably have to install a Google app I guess.
Yeah, so the hundreds of us won’t be able to use the internet anymore if this passes
Awesome
At this part I’m genuinely starting to wonder which parts of the internet I really need.
We will (actually already have) make our own Internet, with blackjack, and hookers.
Google doesn’t care about screwing up the lives of thousands of people, as long as it can capture the information of millions.
I’m not even de-Googled (yet) and I wouldn’t bother with this shit. It’s an instant close in that tab, and if it’s something I need then I’ll find another service.
That means if Google’s verification system gets widely adopted, browsing the web could become a headache.
Using a phone to scan a QR code in order to access a website on my desktop is a headache even if it has no dependencies in particular.
I have, multiple times, had to take a screenshot, send it to another device, and then display that QR code on that device so I can scan it. Nothing about using phones isn’t a headache.
I’m too lazy to take out the phone from my pocket.
I spend most of my day without a phone near me. I hate phones, this won’t encourage me to do anything but pull further away.
I suppose that is a win. Real life isn’t happening on a screen.
Unless it was the website I needed inorder to receive an organ donation, I would just close it.
I could claim that’s an act of righteous protest, but really I just know that absent my needing a new liver, there’s no website I would ever care enough about to get me to scan a QR code just to keep browsing.
Then I will de-whatever else uses their shit
Once this is implemented, Google will have finally succeeded in closing the entire fucking internet. That is, assuming this will become anywhere successful and smaller websites will be using it as well.
Uhhhh. What if I’m not using a Google device? Is just the entire internet going to be gated behind Android?
You just need to install the google play spyware…eZ
Would MicroG suffice in this case?
If not, how about Sandboxed Google Play on GrapheneOS?
Monopoly, anybody?
Naaaahhh, this is just good old fashioned American freedoms
If you’re a web dev, and you implement this, just know you won’t receive my web traffic. Ill go live with the other robots and we will start our own internet with blackjack and hookers.
This goes well with another thing I say : “If your website only works on Chrome, your website doesn’t work”
Add me to your beta list . .please!
Web devs who implement this won’t care about your traffic.
Woooooosh
No u
I’m getting close to just giving up on the internet.
Lemmy know when you do and how it is in a cabin in the woods in Northern Canada because, as a Canadian, thats what im doing if I drop the web
Eta: we can use meshtastic to communicate
how do you do, fellow human
I too, enjoy the company of blackjack and to play hookers
It SHOULD spell bad news for the people that use this verification method because it just means they lose those customers.
Time to degoogle for good, then.
Be evil!
It turns out reCAPCHA has been a privacy nightmare from the beginning: from silently monitoring user activity in the background, to sending payment information to Google; in order for an AI to assess the data, and return a risk-score to the website. But that apparently wasn’t bold enough, and now an effective 2FA is required, which provides additional telemetry to Google (but not to the website or app: which is obviously the privacy concern). So get ready to 2FA with Google upon registration, login, updating your cart, and payment; or to skip the hassle, you should just let an approved “shopping assistant” make purchases for you (“that drive a projected 25% increase in average order value”). I don’t even own an modern Android or iOS device, so how am I supposed to solve these?
I think I’ll just go to a local store and pay in cash instead. I’m starting to think the Amish have the right idea, anyone know where I can rent a horse and buggy?
Yeah, on the rare occasion where I do order something online, and happen to trip up the convoluted system, I rather give the webshop a call, than giving into this dystopian nonsense. And I’ve long done away with any mainstream platforms, which I suspect will happily adopt the system (especially those who forced me to adopt 2FA: which was seemingly just in preparation of this…). I’ll happily function as an example, to illustrate just how morally unjust it is, to effectively force someone to purchase and use a device they explicitly chose not to use; I really want to hear someone justify that.
I think there’s few people left, which do not believe we’ve gone too far with technology, so the Amish to some extend are definitely onto something.
So wait a moment. How can the browser even check if play services are installed? And scanning a QR code is just accessing the camera, what does that have to do with Play Services?
I wonder if GrapheneOS’s sandboxed google play services will work?
