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  • but I think it’s fair to say that the transatlantic slave trade was the most cruel and inhuman form of slavery.

    I can think of other contenders, actually, but Sparta and Russia are both retconned as white (before the concept existed). Maybe something in east Asia, or the Middle East. Any society with a supermajority of slaves is a good candidate to have some of the same rules in place.

    I think the biggest contender for worst crime against humanity was the Native American genocide.

    I mean, they also did that in Australia, for example, and there’s tons of similar events in prehistory we can see through sudden shifts in genetic makeup.

    Genocides aren’t rare, and since the Americas were a bit more sparsely populated I’m not even sure that’s the biggest one.




  • Yeah, but it wasn’t hereditary in Rome, lots of slaves did manage to achieve freedom, anyone could end up a slave and it was always a minority of the population. It was still messed up and they still abused them really badly or fatally at times, but it wasn’t as bad as the American style of slavery. (Sparta’s style was closer, though, and there’s other examples; it’s not like the system was without precedent)

    That said, this does raise the whole question of the Medieval and Arab slave trades. There isn’t really a good demarcation between them and the Atlantic trade, and of course they themselves would have roots in classical times.

    Beyond slavery, there have been marauders like the Huns or the Khans, who would attack a city, and kill every single living thing, and then move on the the next one.

    There’s reasonable evidence the Mongols, at least, liked to kill civilians, but you have to be careful about taking the historical accounts of their enemies at face value. Unlike many wars between agricultural civilisations, they didn’t have literature of their own for us to draw from.