Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs
Updated with correct link
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Hey, claud. Don't let the computer go to sleep when I close the lidCloses laptop lid
Hahaha
It’s not running a local model anyway, why would you need to run anything local. If you’re that careless, just deploy EC2 with headless claude and whatnot, and let it
drop your production databasedo it’s thing.
This shit reads like an Onion article. Good god.
It can’t be a local model right? Why don’t they just do it on their phones? Or if it is local, run it on their desktop and access it remotely. It’s just so stupid.
Can’t you just disable sleep on close?
i could, but closing the lid turned off radios (wifi + bt) at some low level in a way that i haven’t figured out
What OS are you using?
lmde on a seven year old laptop five years ago, i was already accustomed to wifi on linux being dogshit
Ah, yeah, was there any particular reason you were using LMDE? Because I’m not sure what parts of systemd it uses (especially back then), but I always just edited
/etc/systemd/logind.confto haveHandleLidSwitch=ignoreand have had zero issues. Pretty sure there is a gnome GUI for changing this same setting,gnome-tweaks.I would assume the bad WiFi support was due to it being Debian and Debian being notoriously behind in terms of updates for the sake of stability.
to get wifi working properly in the first place i had to find a missing binary that wasn’t packaged in any normal way and was only hosted on some dudes github so my expectations were low already. it got a lot better over the years tbh
I’ve been running Ubuntu on laptops for a lot longer than five years and the last time I had real WiFi issues was over a decade ago. That’s why I think it may be debian related or based on your description, possibly a closed source driver issue. There’s actually quite a lot of WiFi devices that use chipsets that we don’t have proper Linux drivers for at all, and what exists are sort of hacked together projects that live on github. I’ve had to do this with every netgear dongle I ever had, the downloading and compiling drivers for it from github.
could be, there was more of these weird things that i had to do that i don’t remember already because motherboard of that one cracked like three years ago. i also remember that stock driver for tplink dongle was limited and the actual useful one had to be gotten from github
Can’t you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs
They’d have to know how to use a computer to know that…
And if they knew how to use a computer, they wouldn’t be using AI to do their job.
A big thing no one is talking about, is how each worker’s goal here isn’t to build a fully functioning thing, it’s to make something “good enough” that it gets off your desk and is no longer your problem. It doesn’t matter if the “creator” knows how it works or even if it works. Just enough to get a rubber stamp from your manager, then they move on to a new one.
Since most “AI coders” will just keep typing “try again” till it works, eventually they’ll get something that “works”, we won’t fully realize the damage for a while
But pretty soon shit is going to start breaking all over and no one will know how to fix it besides typing into an AI “try again”. No corp or government will pay humans to start over with something maintainable…
And this is the most boring way possible we get to War Hammer 40k
The number of large scale 4the party outages in the last year or ves this is already happening.
Just a reminder that real devs are using AI, and even vibe coding because the alternative is unemployment. I agree with the sentiment, though.
It’s easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls’ practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.
“I have to put it up on a shelf,” he said. “I’m untying my girls’ skates while looking back like: Is it done?”
I just feel bad for these poor kids. You can’t leave your goddamn Claude at home while you take your kids to the rink?
I mean this is why I don’t mind using AI, it gives me the time to focus on the people around me.
Also I see it as a sign of a lack of support and isolation in the workplace. Like “I need help, I don’t have anyone to turn to cause everyone is fired so this is my only support” and the anxiety that brings.
I’ve been suffering from too short an attention span. I keep ending up. scrolling on my phone while waiting for ai to spew its slop, and have been caught too many times
Yeah I just swap to the next project. And if all of those are hydrated I go to my hobby projects, and yeah those I don’t use agents for so I just stay there for a while after that lmao
you know this article is bullshit right?
Dude needs to start using cloud agents if he’s gonna be this shitty.
When your boss ranks you based on the number of tokens you burn, there’s no choice.
Ohoho, I know exactly how to burn a silly amount of tokens if I want to, which is why that metric is absolutely garbage - arguably worse than ranking developer performance by SLOC committed.
/model opus
write a script that RO dumps my production datastores 1gb at a time
use this script and review all my production data and look for cost savings.
You can send it into deeper rabbitholes than that without even coming close to your prod stack
If your metric is usage, it is incredibly easy to game, just send agents on wild goose chases all day long and never accept the results.
Part of the scoring at my company is how many generated lines of code you accept.
Going back to the beginning of the year, I think I’m up to 6
Have it write all of your logging code for you, it may be inaccurate but it is the least damaging place to take the hit as you can just manually search in the source code for where the print was from. They always do something stupid and non uniform making most statements traceable indirectly.
This makes my ops guys cry.
If you fully inform them on the situation, they will be cool with it. We are all in this shit together, well until everything falls apart. Add a [<linenumber>] to the prefix on each statement, who the fuck cares. It was the LLM that did it, not you and you were forced to use it.
Still too much effort.
Automate a script to send AI agents on goose chases for you.
It’s not about effort as much as it is about keeping your job, while not injecting chaos into a code base.
I just don’t imagine any company actually using tokens as a metric
Happened to a friend of mine at his company. It seems the company wanted to justify their subscription costs.
I’m sure if you are corpo-brained (brain dead) enough it makes sense. AI = magic efficiency machine, therefore an employee that uses more tokens = more efficient worker. Of course, in practice most competent people affected by this policy at his company started burning tokens with wild goose chases when they needed to increase that metric.
HEY CLAUDE! OPENCLAW!
There, tokens gone.
He’s a product head at an AI company, as per the article. He is a boss.
While I agree, Every boss, has a boss. Even the CEO’s have bosses.
Until you get to Mambino, the boss of bosses!
Only if the company is publicly traded
VCs are bosses in the private ones.
or you can literally just do what is it? something+tab? and it just goes to town without the need for you to confirm anything.
I mean it’s gonna turn out slop that won’t scale and be full of exploits anyways regardless if you auto confirm or not. then just rig it up to ping your phone when it’s done…oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn’t know how to do that.
then just rig it up to ping your phone when it’s done…oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn’t know how to do that.
fucking. exactly.
I used to use a push notification app and a small python script for that.
I would “&& notify_me ‘message’ “ and get a notification on my watch when whatever script I was running completed
I judge this wave of people in tech pretty harshly.
Just a bunch of boring script kiddies
I couldn’t even find any evidence in the article or photos that anyone interviewed was running a local LLM, which would at least justify worrying about temps if your keyboard acts as your air intake (which apparently is relatively common now).
Just a bunch of narcissists wanting an excuse to have people ask them about what they’re doing, ogle what they’re doing, and so they can pretend they’re…
Even easier. For a lot of carriers you can send an email to the phone number and it’ll come up as a text.
Even worse than script kiddies, they may not even know how to use or build a script
Or use their operating system. Who doesn’t know you can have it stay on when you shut the lid if you want?
I walk with my screen open at the office sometimes. I prefer my computer does go to sleep when I close the lid, but if I’m just grabbing a quiet room for a meeting, I don’t want to wait for the network to come back up when I open it again. Been using computers since the 80’s, but still a noob somehow.
Actual link to article: https://www.businessinsider.com/coders-keep-laptops-open-in-public-ai-agent-2026-5
Redirect links are tracking links and should be banned imo.Thank you, I was about to edit my comment to add it.
Yea I feel like a fool for not catching it, I’ve updated the post. I thought I’d opened the proper page and just copy and pasted.
Just install Amphetamine on your Mac, duh
Shoutout amphetamine, awesome little app.
Why when caffeinate comes preinstalled?
No need to install a separate app:
sudo pmset disablesleep 1
even the crappy old bobcat-based (slow af amd apu) laptops i have here run with lid closed (they run piholes and what-not).
The 39-year-old head of product at Raven.AI is a [Claude Code and OpenAI Codex power user. He also has two daughters, ages 12 and 10, who love to ice skate. So, when he takes them to their weekly skating practices, he sits outside the rink and codes with AI.
It’s easy to lose track of time with these tools, he told Business Insider. Soon enough, the girls’ practice has ended, and the parents flood into the changing room. He joins them — with his laptop ajar, so that the AI agent can keep running.
Sure pal, your work is more important than your kids!
USA makes the world more difficult by pushing people to work more hours and more hours and even more hours, that is turning to a normal thing, which affects the rest of the world bad. Yesterday was AI pushed all over the world, today is war going worldwide. God belss USA and it’s capitalist heads!
Absolute tech jank, indicative of people who don’t know what they’re doing.
What really worries me about this article is this very dystopian idea that you’re supposed to be “working” 24/7, no breaks ever.
Even when you’re out with your kids, why are you present in the moment instead of working? Open your laptop, go work.Wasn’t all the marketing abour the “AI Future” talking about getting things done faster?
When did that turn into “Work 24/7 so you don’t waste your hourly token limit”? WTF?Also,
The 15-year-old from Bentonville, Arkansas, is a 10th grader who’s building a startup with his 24-year-old cousin. He uses Codex, Claude Code, and OpenCode (paid for with seed money from his parents).
Lul. Lmao. ROFL even.
Yesterday on my way home there was a lemonade stand, 6 boys making great value lemonade for $2 a glass. Two of the kids were turning poorly made signs it was so wholesome if I had $2 on me I’d of stopped just to support them.
Sometimes kids should just start a business instead of a startup. Less disappointment and brainrot
on top of that, there is no way they are working on anything so important that can’t take an hour away or whatever. these dopes could also configure yolo mode if they just need to sit there and click “accept” to changes…
I can’t remember the specifics of it, but I vaugely remember someone pointing out that back in the 70s people assumed that rising productivity meant they’d have to work less. That if the work of a week in 1970 would be the work of three days in 2020, that they’d simply only work those three days. Even if I’m misremembering what was said, I feel like it’s clear to see that rising productivity doesn’t mean we’re going to work any less. Capitalism will just keep squeezing until nothing is left.
Yeah futurists said the same shit about email and smartphones, etc. These were “time saving” productivity tools that would help us all enjoy a better work-life balance. Instead you end up with workers essentially on call 24x7x365.
That was the Jetson’s storyline: George goes to work 3 days a week, 2 hours a day, to sit at a desk and press one button.
Notice that storyline didn’t get repeated much.
Also made enough for a nice floating house, a flying car, and a robot maid.
And still has to deal with rush hour traffic…
Remote work still isnt fully accepted even in the future.
My pet theory is that the jetsons and the Flintstones are in universe, on the same planet, in the same time period. One lives in the clouds, the other on the ground. Where do you think all the raw materials come from? Dinosaur operated quarries
Yeah everyone on the ground making due with bioengineered animals that look like dinosaurs, and no one can afford shoes but it’s ok because everyone has been bioengineered to run really fast and have impervious feet.
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Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn’t paying attention and thought I’d copied the direct link. I’ve fixed it.
This article is so confusing because it seems like everyone they’re talking to is just using online models and the use of local models is mentioned but it’s not clear how many of the people being interviewed are using local models since it’s all about laptops. Even the one lady who you can see her screen is a CLI, it’s not clear that she’s not just using the CLI version of Claude.
I have a mid-range desktop and doing local LLM can be pretty darn slow on it especially with an AMD card and ROCm as opposed to Nvidia and CUDA. I have a relatively nice laptop, but it’s specs are well below my desktop and I just can’t imagine actually running a local LLM on a laptop.
If they’re not using a local model, then they wouldn’t need to worry about overheating with the lid closed. Easy to make it so it doesn’t hibernate when the lid is closed via CLI (at least in Linux anyway). Because if they’re offloading all the work to a remote model, their PC can essentially be relatively idle and draw less power/produce less heat.
Article also seems strangely focused on Macs? All it’s mentions of how to make it so you can close the lid are Mac-focused. Did I miss something about the new Apple Silicon being really efficient for local LLMs? Maybe that’s what I’m missing here.
It just seems almost weirdly narcissistic, like they want people to ask them about it so they can talk about it. Certainly it seems that way with the kid with a startup business that he runs during classes with tokens paid for by his parents.
Anyway, the whole thing seems odd to me. Either the article is about people who aren’t actually super savvy coders or techies, or they would… just switch it so they can close their fucking laptop… or something about making a show of what they’re doing is part of it. I dunno, weird. Anyway.
All the real developers are using Macs. BRO, do you even code?
