Defence secretary reveals details of recent incursions as he warns UK is facing ‘new era of threat’ from hostile countries

A Russian spy ship has entered British waters and shone lasers at military pilots, the defence secretary has said, as he warned the UK was facing a “new era of threat” from hostile countries.

John Healey told reporters on Wednesday the “deeply dangerous” move was being taken “extremely seriously” by the government, adding the UK would continue monitoring the ship and had “military options ready” should the vessel change course.

He said the surveillance ship had crossed in and out of the UK’s exclusive economic zone multiple times in recent weeks, not for the first time this year.

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    Two Canadian Air force pilots had to be medically discharged after a Russian ship caused permanent damage to their eyes with a laser a while back.

    Fuck the Russians.

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      Oopsie gotta eject and where’s that airframe going? Oh my directly at that unsuspecting Russian warship? What shame.

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        Tempting I’m sure, but they would be sitting ducks in the water after ejecting. Not something the pilots would consider worth risking.

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          The one thing you don’t do is touch a us boat or a us pilot, if Russia did it would be on no questions asked.

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              To be fair mc Cain is a liar loser with a over hyped story that ignores the major details that make it entirely his fault he was captured.

              Still a shitty thing to say but you won’t ever find me standing up for McCain.

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          Even if they are in their own country? Not sure what specific instance is being referenced but the headline doesn’t say international water.

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            How are you expecting that to work? An RAF recovery boat every 100m around the coast?

            The only people near them are the enemy ship filled with guns.

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              Presumably the enemy ship wouldn’t be there very long after the airframe full of munitions hit it.

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        Because our political classes are corporate-whore sociopaths, who possess zero leadership value beyond public speaking and rubber stamping the will of a borderless, lawless, criminally-corrupt oligarchy.

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        They fear a “diplomatic incident” that could escalate, I guess.

        But Russia is already escalating like there’s no tomorrow; while I’m still against blowing them up, I do not understand why this ship isn’t now under British control. Unless they shoot first of course. It is tricky, but that trickiness is nothing new anymore and Europe should have come up with a strategy by now.

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        Because warships — and bear with me now because this is quite the jargon — have weapons.

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    I wonder what would happen if people started just using water-dropping aircraft to dump tons of water on them. Maybe escalate to some type of really stanky water. Over and over and over and over again.

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        The Thames is the cleanest river in the world that goes through a metropolis. Brown is its natural healthy silty colour.

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          The Thames is one of the cleanest river in the world that goes through a metropolis.

          You dropped the weasel wording there.

          But I’m glad they fixed it. Just like the Rhine that was going through my old home town. Nowadays one could even swim in it. No, not really, it’s considered super dangerous, but not because of toxicity.

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      Or the Trump poop meme.

      Just run massive planes over the Russian spy ships and dump manure on them.

      “Whoopsie doopsie, our evil western planes are so bad that the hatch failed, sowwyy”

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        Hmm. I know a few pig farmers that has plenty of waste to get rid of. They normally sell it off as fertilizer, but, eh, I’m sure we can persuade them to donate for the cause.

        sucks to be whatever schmuck has to clean out the hold, though.

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    The ship entered the Brtitish Economic Zone. Which is still international territory.

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      This is a bit like when someone claims China has entered Taiwanese airspace, while neglecting to report that Taiwan claims airspace over mainland China.

      Part of Taiwan’s air defense identification zone actually extends over the Chinese mainland, but Chinese flights are challenged by Taiwan only if they cross the median line – the halfway point between the island and the mainland above the Taiwan Strait.

      Click-bait journalists love to print headlines that take advantage of their audience’s naive understanding of international law and gullibility when it comes to claims of foreign countries doing sinister things. In fairness to the Brits, anyone familiar with Russian media gets fed a similar deluge of “NATO is going to attack us at any moment!” scare pieces.

      Great for ratcheting tension, driving up military recruitment, and galvenizing the public to hate anyone suspected of foreign origin or sympathies. Not particularly useful when informing the public of safety concerns.

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    A Russian spy ship has entered British waters and shone lasers at military pilots,

    Then have itnpqy a visit to bikini bottom. Lasers can permanently blind people, if call that a direct military assault and an act of war

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      They’ve been going tit-for-tat with flyovers and sail-bys for a while.

      For the same reason Russians aren’t in a hurry to shoot down an RAF aircraft, Brits don’t really want to start a shooting war over some Russians with laser pointers.

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    One of those laser weapons that are supposed to take drones down or a laser pointer?

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      You know I’ve never tried to track a jet with a handheld laser pointer but I imagine it’s not easy so I’m going to guess it’s some sort of fixed device like perhaps a range finder for a deck gun or ciws.

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        I’m pretty sure it’s just a bunch of guys each awkwardly holding like 40 of those green laser pointers off AliExpress. They all wave them around vaguely in the direction of the aircraft and figure one of them is gonna hit.

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            Yantar (yes it sounds like reptar and I can’t help picturing it as a hokey dinosaur either) just got two new domes on deck. They could be discotechs with laser light shows.