• humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    Fentanyl is, if not the most common, a very common opiate used in hospitals, with virtue of being the cheapest. It’s overdose danger, is that a normal dose is of much smaller size, and then so is a fatal one. Usually GOP/CIA is pro addicts and overdoses because you need to vote GOP harder to punish them harder.

    Instead of lying for “easy to win wars so that the US/Trump can look tougher and/or perhaps cancel elections”, if opiates were a real issue, then programs including forced detox, but free voluntary detox too, A pharma incentive to make better non-addictive pain relief (aspirin/tylenol/advil), or making a deal with Taliban to produce “state opium farms” so that our hospital system (source of street fentanyl through theft) can go back to “safe opiates”… are all direct solutions to a stated problem instead of false tariffs and war excuses.

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      1 hour ago

      That … would be a weapon of ass destruction, which is not technically the same thing. Also, lets not disparage those who enjoy a dick in their mouth.

  • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    So, can some folks here correct my ignorance. I was under the impression that most of the fentanyl entering the US is being manufactured in China. It doesn’t sound crazy to me that this is some sort of conspiracy to weaken the American public.

    I’m not sure why we can’t just decriminalize drugs so folks and do heroin in peace. Or maybe fix some of the problems that are causing people to do drugs.

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      Ok but where exactly did you get that impression and what evidence have you seen to actually prove it? If we didn’t want drugs in our country it would be easy to prevent, but we’re busy using their presence as a justification for mass incarceration/slave labor and our foreign policy so it would be inconcenient for the supply to suddenly dry up. You should be extremely skeptical of anything US media says. The obvious answer to the second part is “money”

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        I think that “easy to prevent” is a gross mischaracterization. The flow of goods into this country is mammoth. Checking literally every item, while possible, would crash the economy by bringing imports to a standstill. When you compare the cost of fentanyl in the system against stopping the flow of goods, the economic impact doesn’t even come close.

        We have an incredible, historic, and unprecedented access to goods from around the globe. These items are essentially on-demand for the American consumer, and many people fear the reality that an economic crash would bring; not that everyone would die slowly in the streets, but that we would become responsible for providing for ourselves in a manner that we have forgotten how to do.

        So, in addition to checking every item, you would have to reshape the way that Americans live their lives.

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    So America is harboring WMDs? Quick somebody assemble a coalition of the willing to liberate them.

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    4 hours ago

    This is why only the legislature should be “designating” things like “terror groups” and “WMDs” .

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    6 hours ago

    yay! now all they have to do is plant or falsely charge you with possession of fentanyl and you’re listed as a terrorist, deported via NSPM-7, and disappeared forever.

    /s

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      That’s an extremely mild response for a WMD. They can bomb the shit out of anyone anywhere at any time and just say they suspected they might be smuggling fentanyl. This is really just carte blanche to murder people at will.

      Also attacking or invading other countries is absolutely on the cards, as long as the body of evidence for WMDs is on a par with what was used to invade Iraq.

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    If they really cared about drug addiction and the consequences the sacklers would be in prison and he wouldn’t be pardoning every drug trafficker that gives him a bribe

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    So, anybody that’s ever knowingly handled, trafficked or deployed a Weapon of Mass Destruction on US soil is going to be hunted down by anti terror agents, I’m assuming?

    Doctors, nurses, delivery companies, pharmaceuticals manufacturers, etc, yes?

    Not to mention the number of countries in the world and free agents that now have access to huge numbers of WMDs, all of whom now need to be closely monitored and the US must change its relationship with all of them, given the seriousness of what they now possess.

    And obviously, anybody that’s ever publicly deployed a WMD anywhere will have to be detained if they attempt to enter the USA. Can’t have potential terrorists wandering about the country after all, not if they’re on record as committing the unspeakable act of using a Weapon of Mass Destruction on a peaceful public populace.

    This is just a flimsy justification for America’s military invasion of Canada, given their repeated, official accusations from the very highest levels in their government, that Canada is flooding huge amounts of fentanyl into the USA.

    To claim it is a WMD, after claiming Canada is attacking their country with it, and then to not take any military action against Canada to defend against these WMD attacks, would be admitting military defeat.

    Has the USA admitted that Canada has bested them on the field of battle? Are they too scared to meet Canada head on? Sure seems like it.

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    When you think back… WMD was what justified the war in Iraq. Now he says this drug is a WMD and is coming in to USA from Canada. Is this his push to justify a full scale attack on Canada?

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      Trump’s threatening of Canada has everything to do with the Tar Sands and trying to bully oil suppliers out of the market to keep the oil price from crashing.

      Starting an actual conflict with Canada wouldn’t really help that longterm for the US, which doesn’t mean it won’t happen but makes it an accidental eventuality that could happen as an unintended less likely outcome rather than an intended effect.

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    Oh come on. I just want something, anything, that could be plausible being the context for whatever they do next.

    Fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction?

    That’s going to cause a lot of hospitals to close because they can’t maintain the security requirements to house it.

    But that’s the point. Close hospitals, more people die.

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      11 hours ago

      I’m sure the U.S. will try to justify some invasion with this since they used that excuse exactly to invade Iraq

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    The stupid! It burns!

    JFC but I am so goddam tired of uttering the words “What a fuckin’ moron,” every time I read about him.

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      Because you’re taking him at face value.

      He knows that fentanyl isn’t a nuke. He knows that. But by saying it, and by not having anyone to stop him from saying it, he gets to get away with saying it.

      That doesn’t make him stupid. That makes him evil.

      I’ll simplify the situation. It’s like when you’re in elementary school, and the class bully grabs your wrist, and hits you with your own hand.

      Then asks “why are you hitting yourself?”

      The bully knows what he’s doing. Normally this is when the teacher steps in to stop it. But what if the teacher didn’t exist? And what if instead of a classroom, it was the whole world?

      The bully isn’t stupid enough to think you’re just being self destructive. The bully gets off on the fact that he’s having fun with no one to stop him.

      And that’s where we are with trump. A schoolyard bully with no oversight to stop him. And oh yeah, by the way, he also dictates the biggest military on the planet. With argueably the biggest stockpile of nukes.

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      Maybe he is incompetent, but the administration is not. And malicious? Yes they are.