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    'So you think’is almost always followed by disingenuous arguments, no change here. I like to focus on real, measurable problems, not knee jerk whenever some rich cunt wants to distract me. Why are you so selectively outraged?

    Selectively outraged by police actions. Selectively outraged by who is carrying weapons. You should think about why you’re so easy to manipulate.

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      Why u dont answer my simple question ? It s outrageous to have an exception regarding permit to carry weapon whatever religion involved. Why you think I should be ok with that ?

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        Why u dont answer my simple question ?

        I told you, this isn’t a serious question asked by a serious person, discussing a serious problem. It’s a distraction from the Epstein class robbing you blind.

        You don’t really care about police actions, else your discussion would be very different. You don’t care about people carrying weapons, else your discussion would be very different.

        It s outrageous to have an exception regarding permit to carry weapon whatever religion involved.

        You can be outraged by whatever you want. Well, you can be outraged by whatever the Epstein class wants you to be outraged by. You are, beautifully distracted as they pilfer your pockets. Feeling poorer recently? The rich aren’t, where do you think they got that money?

        Why you think I should be ok with that ?

        Because it’s literally not a measurable problem. Take it to someone more gullible.

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          lmao u can claim anything isnt a real concern cause it s not the epstein class ? can i do the same regarding other topics ?

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            lmao u can claim anything isnt a real concern cause it s not the epstein class ?

            That’s how burden of proof works. If you want to claim something is a problem you have to prove it: with proof. That’s why I linked to an article discussing an actual report about actual and measurable discrimination in the police force. That’s why I linked to an actual article showing the right don’t really care about weapons, they carry them when they want. That’s why I linked to an actual article showing you the Epstein class are robbing you blind.

            You can tell me your fee fees are outraged all you want. Show me an actual study that says kirpans, in particular, are used for stabbings all over the land.

            can i do the same regarding other topics ?

            Me: you’re selectively outraged here’s how, here’s why.

            You: can I be selectively outraged about other topics?

            I’m sure you can, I’m sure you are. You’ll be outraged by whatever the Epstein class tells you to be outraged about.

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              That’s how burden of proof works. If you want to claim something is a problem you have to prove it: with proof.

              Somone got litteraly killed because of that exception. that s my proof.

              You can tell me your fee fees are outraged all you want. Show me an actual study that says kirpans, in particular, are used for stabbings all over the land.

              Just one is enough and tbh that exception should have never happened in the first place. I have no idea how you can justify something being obviously bad cause it doesnt correspond to your arbitrary criteria.

              That’s why I linked to an actual article showing the right don’t really care about weapons

              How is it a right wing take to said religious exception to carry weapon is fucking dumb ???

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                ‘Just one is enough’ when it comes to Sikhs, but no one, and nothing else it seems.

                Care to explain that little bit of bias? ‘Just one is enough’, just shows how selectively outraged you are.

                You can’t lean on ‘state discrimination’, we already established you don’t really give two shits about state discrimination. You can’t lean on ‘deadly weapons’, we already established you don’t really give two shits about deadly weapons.

                I have no idea how you can justify something being obviously bad cause it doesnt correspond to your arbitrary criteria.

                … I don’t know what to tell you: you have your outrage, and I’m not convinced by your outrage.

                Show me meaningful data that kirpans, in particular, are a problem and I’ll be convinced. I’ve shown you how to convince me, you can do it at any time.

                Your turn, what would convince you that the Epstein class are just boosting this story so you’re annoyed at Sikhs and not them?

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                  Care to explain that little bit of bias? ‘Just one is enough’

                  u arent real. Yeah one murder that should have been prevented and wasnt bc of a stupid law is enough to say the law is stupid. Are you having issue undersatnding this ?

                  we already established you don’t really give two shits about state discrimination

                  No we havent and it wasnt even the subject.

                  just tell me why a religious exception for carrying a weapon isnt an issue ? All you said was something related to epstein that isnt even the subject. You also said it was a right wing take. Omg

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                    Gain saying isn’t an argument

                    I’ve told you what would convince me: show me data that kirpans, in particular, are a problem murder weapon in the UK. I’m waiting, you can do it at any time. The power to convince me is in your hands, you just refuse to do it.

                    That’s a reasonable ask I think. I believe the UK does have an issue of discrimination based on ethnicity due to data. Makes sense to apply the same standard to kirpans.

                    All you said was something related to epstein that isnt even the subject. You also said it was a right wing

                    That’s right, I did say it was a distraction by the Epstein class to distract you. Oh boy have they got you distracted.

                    I then showed you what you’re being distracted from.

                    It’s a common MO. That’s why Farage, with significant ties to the Epstein class, is banging on about it. It’s why the media, owned by the Epstein class, is banging on about it.

                    Look, we aren’t getting anywhere. You have your outrage that I don’t think is convincing. I have my data, that you don’t think is convincing. Ultimate