Anyone else remember then being the cool new thing instead of a mandatory one?
It’s a necessary step. Sooner or later we are going to be one unified consciousness, and we need to learn to adapt, and accept that we have no privacy, and we need to learn to love each other more.
There is no stopping it.
It feels like fascist political leaders are pushing/rewarding this thing and at the same time making up all hate each other more…
You’re correct. So we fight fire with fire. Spread happiness, reason, and wellbeing.
In the face of all the negativity and hate, we must bare it with a smile. That is our greatest weapon.
We can boycot banks that mandate android/ ios apps, we can put phones in faraday cages, we can form new cell operator companies, we can form unions and increase their political power and whilst the republican seats of power atrophy we can guide them by active participation into compassionate forms so they dont become a source of backlash. We can support companies like pinephone and librem for small handhelds if we want, we cant support risc-v, we can use gnu guix and bolster its usability to verify the validity of the software stack.
Say it again for the people in the back.
I would be happy with a Nokia 3310 with Signal and Matrix support.
Idk about that specific one but people have turned other Nokia models into cyberdecks. Might be worth checking out.
On Symbian?
It really cracked me up 15-20 years ago when there was a fair amount of panic about the government / world order microchiping people at more or less the same time that everyone was starting to pay to carry around GPS devices that listen to you.
50 years ago, everyone was afraid to be spied on by the soviets or the US, now its “Hey Wiretap, find me a recipie for pancakes”.
I’m pretty sure the US and the Soviets were spying on everyone they could, enemies, allies, and their own civilians.
The US, China, the UK and likely others are currently spying on everyone they can, enemies, allies, and their own civilians.
This is exactly what Orwell feared TVs would become when he envisioned telescreens. Took a little longer for it to come to fruition. What’s fascinating about the novel that people over look is that the older generation in 1984 tend not to own them because they’re resistant to new technology just like today. So they aren’t really mandatory. Like smartphones.
This is exactly what Orwell feared TVs would become when he envisioned telescreens.
Especially considering how some smartphones already have under-display cameras.
I think the Party members were required to have telescreens, but the proles were not because they were seen as unimportant and incapable of organizing a rebellion.
Correctly assumed by my recollection.
not my fault your phone isnt cool
I would buy my Xperia Play again in a heart beat if it had even midrange modern specs.
When the subject comes up I have often said that cell phones are what we avoided in the PC space when the IBM BIOS was reverse engineered.
It has been a disappointment to me that so many smart otherwise tech literate people have seemed to not be able to see the tech industry, and others, putting the digital noose around out necks with smart phones.
We are not too far away from entire brick and mortar businesses being off limits to someone whose only smart phone is not an iPhone and does not pass Googles Play Services Safetynet checks for an app and the only method to pay they have being cash or a physical credit card. That is wild, and something that should worry nearly everyone that has a vested interest in being able to live their lives without being under the thumbs of private corporate interests if they so choose.
And that is before even getting into the even more concerning parts of modern phones which take all of the above and make it scary by replacing private corporate interests with governments.
Nothing good ever comes from getting in a position where you have to interact with, or obey, another party and they get to set all of the terms.
Cash and card payments are perfectly fine for all of my in-person shopping needs. I don’t use a phone for banking or paying

I was probably one of the last to hold onto a dumbphone because all I then needed was text messaging. But then the phone was starting to fall apart due to age, and it wasn’t easy having it, a sketchy digital camera, and a beat-up Shuffle and my clients were inching up the tech tree.
15 years later I keep two separate personas: one for the smartphone because you have the fucking suits expecting the face of a compliant lemming, with nothing incriminating whatsoever; the other is only on my computer, the one having more freedom to express dissent. Neither device are to be connected together in any way.
And should to join any form of general civil disobedience, better carry a dumbphone and a digital camera.
I have my blue and grey Nokia still.
When I was on my way home from work on the subway, I just tried to fill the screen with a snake the whole time.
I still hope for a cool game to be included when I buy a new phone. Spoiler: there is no cool game included
I still remember the day I beat Brickbreaker on my 2007 Blackberry. It was a glorious day in my personal gaming history that may never be surpassed
Technology makes me want to retch these days.
Its now also IMPOSSIBLE to create an email account without a cell phone. Imagine that. You can’t send email if you don’t have a cellphone
There are alternatives to hotmail…
They’re still cool form factor minicomputers tho, and cameras, video players, game consoles… and also phones.
The number of places that expect you to download their app to do business with them, or sign up with them, is beyond disturbing.
I now actively try to make their life difficult. I’ll ring up,.or try to order at the counter.
And then I pull out my wallet and try to pay with cash and all hell breaks loose 🤣
I spent 30 minutes looking for an item at Microcenter.
I got someone to help look. no good, can’t tell you where it could possibly be.
called up and ordered it for pickup, came back 30 minutes later, there it was at the pickup desk.
My experience getting help is complete opposite. I love microcenter. Lucky to have 3 of them within 45 min of me.
Ohh yeah, I love them, that guy didn’t last long there :)
Same for me. Super helpful staff. I frequently have to wait a minute because they’re helping someone else, but if I hang around in their aisle they ask if I need anything as soon as they’re done with the other customer.
I was watching a show the other day where the wealthy protagonist got his phone thrown to the grown and smashed by someone and he freaked out because it was a $200 phone. I think the episode is like 10 years old or so. Phones used to be cheap to own as well as cool.
I dropped $250 on an HTC Apache in 2006 and thought I was quite fancy.
Ack most phones are really expensive now. But I pretty much just use mine for comms, personal organisation. I have never paid more than 300 for a model and i typically buy a new one every 4 or 5 years. Crazy seeing models priced at 2k or up though.






