Cancer website
I’m holding off until HD AI.
3D A.I.
AI eXtreme!
We’re going back to the late nineties.
iAI
About the Bosch E-Bike, I have a bike with a Bosch motor and they really are that bad. The bike comes with an app and you need to give them your personal data to “unlock” basic features of the app and an electronic bike lock. If you want to let another person use that bike, you need a subscription. I deleted the app. Fuck Bosch.
I’d return it for not meeting basic product expectations.
Are alternative firmwares available?
Didn’t find anything, and it would probably void the warranty. But on the upside, using the app isn’t necessary to operate the bike, and the most important features work with the controller/display on the handlebar. The motor lock is disabled for now and I’m resorting to more traditional methods of bike security… a chain lock. The motor lock has a huge disadvantage anyways because it depends on a bluetooth connection to the app on a phone. If that phone for some reason doesn’t work or is unavailable then the bike is essentially bricked. It’s a heavy and bulky cargo bike, so being stranded somewhere with a blocked motor would be bad.
at this point its a glorified Market Saturation.
I’m just going to install a door knocker.
The hot new category at CES 2027 is going to be AI-powered auto door knockers.
“It automatically does a facial scan of any household visitors using Palantir’s database and knocks the way they would have.”
“Couldn’t they just, you know, knock?”
“Sure, but then how would we track who’s visiting you while making you pay the power bill for our surveillance devices?”
I just got a WiFi stove that should be marketed as one of those bad ideas.
My requirements were
- induction burners
- air fryer
The closest I could find had all this “smart” crap, and convection oven was as close as I could get to air fryer
An air fryer is literally a convection oven, so that part was accomplished. But a wifi stove is just bizarre.
Traditionally, convection ovens have a fan at the back that pushes air over the food and around the oven, while air friers have a fan on top that draws the air through the food from the bottom. But for majority of the use cases, the results are very similar and I’m sure convection ovens that work the same way also exist.
Yes and no. My understanding is an air fryer is just more convection. No actual definition but some brands have both convection and air fry. But I couldn’t find that with an induction top.
This does have “convection bake” vs “convection roast”, so I still need to understand what distinction they’re making
I’ll figure it out as I cook more. I do have a countertop air fryer that I was hoping to get rid of (I need the counter space) that I used a lot for chicken breasts and stuff. But the ultimate test is tofu. I’ve never been able to make tofu right so if I can use the convection oven to get the right consistency, I’m golden
I am in the market for one as well. I found KitchenAid makes an induction stove top with convection and Air fry oven. https://www.kitchenaid.com/major-appliances/ranges/slide-in-ranges/p.30-inch-4-element-induction-slide-in-convection-range-with-air-fry.ksis730pss.html?
Yeah, air fryer has significantly more airflow than a additional convection oven, and the fan is right behind the hearing element instead of on the sidewall.
It delivers heat and circulates it more effectively. An oven with proper “air fryer” function usually has multiple of large fans that go above the heating element.
Food for thought: Replace Your Range With a Modular Kitchen
This is functional, but looks ugly as sin and I don’t see how it’s better than an integrated stovetop? Those are also usually separate from the oven so you’re still good on the oven if the stovetop dies.
Interesting idea, and a great money saver! I find it strange that portable induction cooktops are so much cheaper and at least seem more technically advanced than a fill sized range.
But yeah, more clutter and probably not great for selling a house. Not for me
I’m astounded there hasn’t been a legal case already where some AI customer service bot hallucinated and promised a customer a million dollars or something and they’re trying to claim it. Set that precedent and companies would be dropping those AI clankers right quick.
there has! AI customer bot said they’d be a different price and they forced the flight company to uphold said price.
there was a case where a consumer was promised something by an AI chatbot and the company tried to renege on it
sorry I don’t really remember any details about it, although I am pretty sure that it was ruled the company had to uphold the chatbot response. Oh I think part of their defense was that the chatbot was an external company or something
edit: found it, looks like the same story the other user referenced
But not for eating. Don’t trust AI for food or other safety.
Not a hotdog
AI can eat and sleep instead of you
Samsung said in response that “a trade show floor is naturally very different from a consumer’s home environment. Our Bespoke AI experiences are designed to simplify decisions around the home, making life more convenient and enjoyable.”
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
They deserve to sell none of their shitty fridges.
Do they… do they know what the C in CES stands for?
cunts
Judging from the way AMD got up and spent all their time talking about their data centre products, nobody does.
Nothing now. The branding has completely pivoted, CES isn’t even an acronym anymore.
This is the same Samsung that sold fridges with giant LCD screens on them, ostensibly to help the buyer, but then later turned that expensive screen into a billboard showing ads to the fridge buyer in their kitchen (source). Samsung has shown who they are. Anyone that buys an AI fridge from them will have no one to blame but themselves.
These also have an entire computer running Tizen behind the screen in the door, which generates waste heat and dumps it… into your refrigerator. Genius!
I feel like the problem here is that you get people who are curious or like the other features the fridge has and just get what they can when theirs goes out. And while, sure, those people learn not to do that again, by that point the industry used that sales data as a “they must like it, lets do it across the board!” Instead of asking people or taking anything else into account when figuring out what products to continue making.
In 10 yrs when those fridges die and people who “learned their lesson” go to buy a new fridge, there will be zero fridges without AI because marketing thought thats why they bought it and no one has any ability to buy a non-AI fridge anymore.
In 10 yrs when those fridges die and people who “learned their lesson” go to buy a new fridge
That’s more like two years for Samsung fridges, where the designers and builders spend all of their time on fancy horseshit and ignore basic requirements like “keep the food cold”.
I feel like the problem here is that you get people who are curious or like the other features the fridge has and just get what they can when theirs goes out. And while, sure, those people learn not to do that again,
Part of what makes us intelligent is learning from others. I guess I would expect buyers to do even the most basic research on a large dollar figure purchase which would likely expose them to the headlines about Samsung putting ads on fridges after the sale.
Do people actually just walk into an appliance store and just drop more than $1k on what they see on the floor without researching reliability, warranty, or other features from articles and news sources?
Apparently a large percentage of people buy cars without test driving them… so probably.
I did buy a replacement refrigerator based on “no ice dispenser, fits in available space” on a Saturday when mine let out the magic smoke that morning. It was delivered the next day and worked out ok.
I would not get something fancier without doing research. This one was literally the only refrigerator that fit the bill at the store (weird-sized refrigerator alcove)
Was that the only refrigerator store close to you, so even if there were other choices that fit manufactured you wouldn’t have been able to lay your hands on one?
There was Home Depot, Best Buy, and Lowes. I looked at their in-stock offerings online and only one of them had something that would work. I tried out a floor model, it seemed fine. I couldn’t spend too much time on the decision because I was playing host and didn’t want my house guest to worry about her food spoiling. (She has dietary restrictions and enough food anxiety as it is.)
Well sure, if you’re in a time crunch that makes sense. Additionally, you did attempt to shop elsewhere, but in your case it was such a specialized opening you only had one choice from all the retailers available to you. I imagine, had there been multiple to choose from, you would have examined the choices more closely, right?
I think you are giving people too much credit. Lots of people have a budget they can spend on appliances (like a credit line) and they get the best (most expensive) one they can get on that budget. Others will do the opposite and get the cheapest but only people like you find on Lemmy (Linux users for instance) in my experience will make a choice in the middle based on feature set.
I went with the middle dish washer and it has tuned out to be a series of planned obsolescence repairs. I’m handy enough to do them all, but I know it’s just a matter of time.
We’re on year six (it had a 5 year warranty). I’m determined to make it last until 10 at least.
“security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge
My AI-less, internet-less fridge is quite private and secure. Furthermore, it keeps food perfectly cold!
It isn’t sexy, but products that just work are 100x better than products with 40 features that can all brick it for no reason or annoy you to death.
There’s an effort combination here - to buy things that just work, you need not only demand, but their sufficient production and companies choosing that niche to concentrate, because they don’t have an option of something with “AI”.
It’s like negotiation, of what to produce. There’s elasticity of demand based on niche similar to that of demand by price. If you need a fridge and there are only AI fridges offered, you’ll buy an AI fridge.
So you won’t be able to buy something that just works when all companies with sufficient power to design and produce fridges want AI.
There’s also some stickiness there, like a hysteresis, and the current combined effort at AI promotion, even if not at equilibrium of said AI’s attractiveness for said elasticity, will hold. Unless there will be another combined effort at killing it with fire.
That is similar to 4:3 display ratio, ergonomic user interfaces, or perhaps home appliances that came with schematics, but not anymore.
Yup, I think an ice dispenser and a fancy-schmancy high speed water tap is justifiable for most people, but I can’t think of a realistic use case for a screen that outweighs the many negatives.
It might not be sexy, but I’d argue it doesn’t need AI to be.
Take the SMEG ones as an example - they’re not my cup of tea, but the amount of people who are willing to pay a premium for a fridge that doesn’t do anything special other than looking nice shows clearly that.
it will be on the people, if they buy a fridge named “SMEG”
that’s ma SMEG. They really should think of a name change.
They might also be paying a premium for a refrigerator with that name specifically.
Smeg-heads do be like that.
SMEG-MA.
You know that is a lie, a lip service for the gullible mass. Samsung just does not care about security and privacy because it does not boost their profits.
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
suck it, Jin YangEven their older, simpler fridges are crappy. We bought one because our previous fridge conked out in mid-pandemic when the selection of new appliances was low. It lasted about three years before developing an issue that would have cost us more to fix than just replacing the damned thing. So we replaced it with some cheaper probably-Chinese brand I’d never heard of before and will never buy another Samsung appliance again if we can help it. AI will just add expensive, useless functions on top of their already poor design and dubious manufacturing.
In other words, if these become the only fridges in existence, I may just try to find out where I can purchase an old-fashioned icebox.
I have a rule: if the company has ever made a mobile phone or TV I will never buy their appliance.
I’ve had a few Samsung appliances. They are, by far, the worst appliances I’ve owned. I will not be buying another from them. If they want to make life more convenient, they need to make better devices, not shove screens, wifi, and AI into their crappy products.
Don’t worry, in the realm of major appliances the majority of what these bozos are calling “AI” actually isn’t. They’re just using it as a buzzword because they think it’s popular.
LG, selling a washing machine two years ago: “It has weight sensors to determine the load size.”
LG, selling the same damn washing machine today: “With exclusive LG® AI DD™ Technology!!!”
a trade show floor is naturally very different from a consumer’s home environment.
So it’s like fashion shows, where they have the most ridiculous shit walking down the catwalk, instead of actual clothes that people will wear?
using AI and privacy in the same sentence should be a crime. almost everything AI does is datamining people.
a candy that plays music while you eat it
What the heck. The whole paragraph is so ‘unnecessary technology’.
A candy that plays music while you eat it
This is the sort of misapplication of technology that traumatised me as a kid, dammit
When I was in year 5 the kids in the class had been working cutting apricots and they bought tonnes of candy and these whistles they were blowing all the time.
How much did the whistles cost ? one cent.
True story.
Rather freeze AI completely than use an AI refridgerator
Now if things you could do with simple if/else algorithms are using “AI”
Screaming is well and good to build public opinion against this stupidity, but all the CEOs in their towers will heed is no sales.
We need to make it uncool to like or tolerate AI bullshit in consumer products.
If you have friends, and they show you their new fridge with a touch screen, don’t be polite. Tell them it’s the stupidest thing you’ve ever seen, and then mock them for choosing it every chance you get. And, no, I don’t have friends anymore (but, this is not why).
Heckling your friends after they dropped $3k on some sloppy fridge is kinda cruel. Advise them hard when they ask for advice - here’s where you say “everyone will laugh” and “stupidest idea” - but commiserate when they realize what they’ve got.
You want to be in a position to offer advice for the next sloppy purchase.
Could preface it with “are you still in the return period for this thing?”.
Hey…ummm, can we be friends?
Hilarious. I bite my tongue so often around these kinds of situations it has permanent tooth imprints in it. But you’re right, someone needs to figure out how to get them to stop tolerating this horrific nonsense.
And they’ll probably shut down the AI servers in a few years for cost reduction making the whole thing a huge waste of money.
That’s the point.
probably shut down the AI servers in a few years for cost reduction making the whole thing a huge waste of money.
It’s like you’ve seen the Portal video chat units. (What a beautiful piece of hardware)
