What’s stopping people from making extremely cursed deepfakes of these idiots and spamming it everywhere? They’ve got to get tired of it eventually.
These people benefit from a world where real evidence is buried and indistinguishable from deepfakes.
They can afford to hire the Pinkertons to find you.
I don’t know man, C level executives are all about the money, they would sell out their moms to make a buck.
If it doesn’t hurt their position in the company, they wouldn’t give a single fuck. They literally kissed the ring of a dictator, they’d dance to any tune to make the line go up.
In elons case he actually would love that, he’s fucked
Not them… their family members. Spouses, siblings, parents, kids. There are no rules any more.
Because they are indeed cowards.
“Coward” implies that they want to do good, but are too scared to do so. There’s no reason to think that, and indeed we shouldn’t. They want money and Elon makes them money; that’s all there is to it. If ethics mattered to them at all, they wouldn’t have been able to climb to the position of CEO of a major corporation in the first place.
I mean Grok is literally being used to make CSAM so it should not only be taken down but the law should get involved in any reasonable country.
It’s just crazy dude. Give pedos an opportunity, and they WILL take advantage of it. You could be making an image hosting app for frickin octogenarians and they’ll somehow discover it. I hate that shit.
how many times do we have to say it
the law is optional for corporations and the rich
the law is for oppressing the poor and justifying it
The thing is though… is it actually CSM according to the law if there is no real child involved along the way? At least some countries might need a law change first before tackling this.
Edit: I checked the local law where I’m located and it’s “images or videos depicting a minor during a sexual act”. I’d argue these AI generated images aren’t of minors because they don’t exist. We probably need new laws first unless it’s provable that the images represent a specific real life minor.
The thing is though… is it actually CSM according to the law if there is no real child involved along the way?
Legally, yes. The law in the UK also includes images of children that are drawn or computer generated.
I had kind of assumed this was the case in a lot of countries with one of the more prominent exception being Japan (we have a lot of fucked up manga/anime).
Japan had legal Child Porn until disconcertingly recently.
Good. I also read a bit more into it and while I’m not located in the UK apparently there is a specific extension to the law that also includes drawings and “collage” type edits. It doesn’t mention AI yet but surely this should count.
RIP my search history. But I’m glad we don’t need to wait for the law to catch up (in some places). Now all we have to do is scream from the rooftops that the laws need to be applied. Or even better: sue someone.
But Xitter disabled image gen now.
Sure, yes, in any niche app, they would’ve pulled it and never allowed it again.
They are not cowards, they don’t give a single shit about it. There isn’t enough backlash to effect Google so Google doesn’t care. That is how corporations deal with every subject. They don’t treat child porn differently becuase it’s one of the more henious offenses; it’s simply another rule broken and it is delt woth the same way as anyother broken law or rule: ignore it or throw money at it and admit no wrong doing.
It’s the opposite. They are cowards. Any move to do the right thing makes you a target for oh dear leader (who is also a pedophile). So they ignore it because it’s more profitable to avoid falling out with the administration. The only value a corporation has is greed.
Right in the name
They’re guidelines
fancytalk for a double standard
Exactly. They’re okay with the fascist Xitpool, but if any regular dev ever crossed those “guidelines,” they’d be banned in a heartbeat.
Just take the app name, for example. From memory, single letter app names aren’t typically allowed in either of those places. X got a special exemption to let them use that name.
Money and mutually assured destruction (blackmail-able info).
Not just blackmail, if either had the balls to ban twitter I don’t imagine the large orange fascist would keep his mouth shut and not retaliate. So it’s also extortion!
I thought him and musk had a falling out?
It was performative after Musk’s sieg heil crashed Tesla sales.
Musk still donates to them I assume it’s not that bad as much as Musk just needed to be told not do that thing where everyone hates him so close to Trump
Musk has already said that he intends to go all in to get Republicans elected in 2028. He and Trump’s heads may be too big to fit in the same room, but he knows which side his bread is buttered on.
MUSK, ellisons, THIEL, probably the sackler family, and the couple that is giving him 600mil plus, and of course murdoch and PUTIN.
Oh, yeah, and a lot more than that. Most of those super-wealthy people don’t want their names to be well-known, but that are still very active.
This was a really good article. The author is rightfully pissed off.
here you go >> https://archive.ph/WtSlJ
Thanks little kiwi ❤️
You can just enable ublock origin to bypass these verge popups
Because billionaires like these two, and the corporations that they run, believe they’re largely not accountable to the law nor cultural pressure. They exist in a cloud of privilege that never holds them to account for truth, justice nor anyone’s wellbeing as long as the investors get paid. They are sociopaths.
believe they’re largelyare
Do you need a back brace to stand up straight, buddy? Because at this point, I am certain you haven’t got a single vertebra.
Just want to make sure this line gets the attention it deserves.
Hit their bottom line!
All sorts of weird precedents are being set in the shameless kowtowing to the deluded traffic cone
Lawyers are going to be making any kind of weird argument based on some precedent set during this presidency for decades
this is actually a pretty wild headline to appear on the verge frontpage
good on them
I see a lot of people hate The Verge and I don’t understand why. Is it perfect? No. But, I think they have a pretty solid ethics policy and they call out bullshit.
I like 404 better but Verge is by no means bad.
Maybe there was an issue with them that I don’t know about? Idk!
Google “verge pc build”. They ran a video of a guy, completely unqualified, building a “$2000 PC”, and doing almost everything wrong. And then the guy called people racists for dunking on him. There’s layers to the story. The Verge has been a joke of tech reporting for years.
Found it. Yeah that video was bad.
To their credit, they did issue a retraction and repost the story with correct steps.
The copyright strikes were definitely a dumb way to handle it.
Idk if true or not but in an Arstechnica story, The Verge’s editor in chief apparently asked the Vox lawyers to rescind the copyright strikes.
I don’t mean to sound like I’m defending them. The video should never have made it up in the first place, but people make mistakes. If you own it and apologize, I’ll give you a second chance.
I don’t always agree with their take on a topic, but for the most part I have found them to be factual.
I do also agree with many Ed Zitron takes about them tho. They could be doing a better job on AI, but over the last few weeks I’ve seen an improvement there.
TLDR: that PC build from 8 years ago was dumb and extra embarrassing, they should feel bad for it, but I still think some if the hate they get is unjustified.
An eon ago they made a PC building guide that was riddled with mistakes and had to pull it down again and I think that’s still where most of that comes from.
Yeah. I just looked it up. That video was dumb and bad. Shouldn’t have made it up, but the article is still on their site. They did issue a retraction and update the story to correct the inaccuracies.
I don’t know if it warrants the Lemmy hate but I also know that Lemmy hates anything corporate so it is what it is. I’ll still read The Verge as long as they follow their own ethics policy.
IIRC the initial response to extremely valid criticism of the video was also terrible, and they threw the video host under the bus for a rushed video that should’ve never been produced under the circumstances it was (granted he was part of the terrible response to criticism)
It goes earlier than that debacle for me but I honestly do not remember anymore.
If they’ve turned a new leaf then hey good for them.
Paywalls mostly (speaking for myself).
That and, back in the day, they trashed Samsung for making big phones, then praised Apple for making objectively less functional ones (no stylus, no Note like features). We started calling them iVerge back then, for favoritism to Apple. Even as an Apple guy, I found it annoying.
Why won’t Apple and Google pull it?
Google will pull it as soon as Apple does, they’re a follower not a leader.
Funny how it’s the other way around when it comes to hardware. Headphone jack removal and fingerprint reader, Droid did both first.
With software, copying Apple is everyone’s game. Samsung were caught red handed literally telling their designers where they could copy Apple more. They’re only just getting around to the important bits. Software updates, and synergy with a computer (which unfortunately is Windows, not Linux).
The ”Droid” you’re talking about isn’t Google.
Conflating the company Google, Android operating system and every company that makes phones running Android is a common mistake people make.
If you have an Apple account take a min to report it.
Thanks, this is very helpful!
It’s only allowing me report apps I’ve installed so I’m wondering if I should very briefly install the app to allow that. I’m generally cautions of allowing dodgy apps on my devices.
I wouldn’t even download apps you don’t feel comfortable with because the permissions they are granted are agreed-upon at the time of download and you are also boosting the download and usage metrics simply by installing it and opening it once.
It’s also extremely unlikely that an application such as X could ever be reported enough to have anything happen. I’m sure it’s on a manually approved list
You don’t have to open it. Therefore not being able to grant it permissions to access info.
*I mean that theoretically but it’s worth a shot.we can also review bomb it on the App Store.
Perfect. Done. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
