“Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and adjusting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product,” said Charles Poon, VP of vehicle hardware engineering, in a briefing this week with reporters.
The Broligarch’s are reading the wrong philosophers. If they read Polanyi they would know that you can’t build a tacit knowledge system based on explicit knowledge. Its summed up in the pithy “we know more than we can tell”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polanyi’s_paradox
My friend, they don’t read at all
“Claude, summarize this Forbes article about what a smart boy I am”
And they’re going to fire Charles Poon for fucking this up, right?
Mr.Poon is known for fucking things…
Wow thought ford was better than that. Sad
Why? They’ve always been a trash company that makes trash vehicles.
yeah they’ve really fallen off since the days of Nazism
VP should be fired.
Charles Poon lol
I hope they had to double their previous salaries…
I had they hope to previous thier double saliear
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The joke is NOT I fucked up correcting myself editing it about it, the joke is that I care so much that I make this meta comment. That’s the level of joke we’re on
Is this a part of your op too?
Literally every i ds9s a government psyop
Thanks Obama
Hopefully those employees said, “Sure, I’ll come back, but my salary requirement is 50% more than you were paying me.”
It would be great if all the workers would agree on this collectively, rather than just one offs.
In the current job market, you know it was the other way round.
If the company proactively reaches back out to you, you have the upper hand, regardless of the general hiring atmosphere. It indicates that they don’t want to take the time for someone else to ramp up on institutional knowledge they know you already possess.
I always thought it was a joke until it happened to friends of mine. Massive layoffs, they were experts in one specific technology, they came back as consultants for a few years with a doubled salary. They were fired again later, but with a lot more money so it was worth it.
just goes to show, mid-level lackeys will do anything for Poon
They did it all for the nookie.
Very normal story at this point. Managers incompetently think AI will magically replace employees, they lay off employees, it doesn’t work, they rehire the employees.
“would produce a high-quality product,”
Ai couldn’t do it. Real engineers can. However C suite gonna rebute high quality in favour of service and product that fleeces the most of the buyer.
Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and adjusting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product
That’s so low IQ, like saying “Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing a lawn mower and adjust the landscaping requirements, that that would produce a high quality lawn.”
Exactly, it’s incompetent managers making stupid decisions in the hope of looking good by reducing headcount. People see this and think aha, one more reason to hate AI, but blaming AI is like blaming a fork for not being a spoon.
I hope they negotiated their new salary very strongly
So they fired the executives responsible, right?
Lol. Probably got bonuses then celebrated for identifying the issue and fixing it.
Heh, a few weeks back a new project manager at my work held a meeting about an upcoming project, and half the team was able to say the timeline was workable, but the specifics the project manager laid out would lead to disaster, and we just had to adjust the strategy, but still have same time and same cost. We spelled out exactly what would go wrong and how, based on previous attempts to do it the way he said. It was scheduled to be a weeklong project, which would have been a fine timeline.
He got stubborn, insisted that based on his research his approach was right, and while he would have us on standby in the unlikely event of a problem, he would largely outsource the project to a company that agreed with his plan.
So the project started Monday, and based on past experience we expected to be called into action on Tuesday morning and have to hustle, or maybe Tuesday end of day and really get overworked to close it in time. So Friday comes along and we are shocked that it must be going ok since we hadn’t heard anything. 4pm rolls around, the project manager calls us in a panic saying it’s all gone nowhere, zero progress made, and he has escalated to make sure we take over and now we had to make the Monday morning deadline, or our asses are screwed. Everyone worked their asses off, a couple didn’t sleep the whole weekend.
So in a followup call, the project manager said “no one could have predicted it would go so badly”, and then an email came out from executive team congratulating the project manager for making the project work despite challenging circumstances.
That would make me quit on the spot. No notice. No explanation. Just get up and leave and not say any word to anyone.
its probably designed to make people “constructively dimissed.”
I’d sit there and work a shift, and tell them it’ll be ready in the week that I estimated at the kickoff.
sounds like a layoff is coming if they are doing this.
I would literally go “Nope, no going to happen, you deal with you making promises with estimates you yourself made up instead of listening to the experts”.
In fact, I’ve already done this in the past.
This as a good example of how people fail upwards.
If he had listened to us from the onset, this would have proceeded, he would have been maybe casually acknowledged for a solid enough job, business as usual even though the money in play was abnormally astronomical, leadership would have just taken this part of the business for granted.
Because he didn’t listen, he created a disaster. Because the disaster had just unimaginably large amounts of money attached with just stupid amounts more potential money in followup business, the executives were panicked. The ability to recover it on schedule suddenly they appreciated it, and he manages to bask in the spotlight.
Ok, so what if we had left him out to dry? We probably would have been fired. He probably would have too, but declining to assist and risking millions of dollars of business screws you too.
The upside? Well, this was noteworthy because this was the first time in many years I had to lose a weekend, so it’s not super common. To the extent stuff like this happens more regularly, it usually isn’t this bad and is more annoying but on normal business hours. This also happened close to review cycles, and was fantastic relevant information to hold over management so while I didn’t get broad recognition, I did walk away with the second largest bonus of my career. Also the project manager learned the lesson and his standard game plan for this sort of thing is now consistent with what we said. He fails upward, but at least he’s an ally for the foreseeable future.
Sounds like you need a union
The true mark of experience
If you have concerns like that always express them in an email as well as verbally, not only is it good for covering your own ass if you weren’t able to pull it out the fire (tbh I think you shouldn’t have busted your ass to make it work), but its also going to make people less likely to claim that unearned credit for your heroic work if you do.
I hope the team was paid a nice overtime fee. Otherwise they should have just let it fail.
Well, salaried, so not ‘overtime’ per se, but at least I walked away with a bonus equivalent to about 4 months pay. Not solely due to that one incident, but that incident put things over the top.
*Underpaying someone else to fix it.
trust me no, the follow up is often an overpay
For the work that’s being done, the people doing the work are most definitely underpaid.
No matter what, the parasites in the big club always fail upwards.
Probably invested more in AI.
fire her for being caught for not OBFUSCATING THE lay offs as something else.
Executives make some major mistakes but never seem to be held accountable.
Can we start replacing executives with AI? Big money savings there, and you don’t even need a particularly good model
Could probably get the job done with a half-decent flowchart, really.
if anything the hallucinations will likely be less ridiculous
All CEOs do is mindlessly follow trends; perfect use case for AI.
I’d settle for regular old I
The CEOs already have and are getting paid to copy paste responses.
- Yes sir I can fix those, I only charge 10.000 euros / hour.
Seems like we’re entering the “find out” phase…
If only…
Firing a large group of people and re-hiring a subset at reduced rates is a standard business practice used to keep wages down. This wasn’t a mistake in policy, it was a clumsy execution.
Or perhaps a little bit of both: an inelegant way to handle a mistake.
We definitely are in some ways, but I don’t think this applies. Just the past month I’ve seen several articles about companies doing real work on scaling back AI use, which is good. But a bigger number are still fully invested and everyone who has any say about it have such an extreme AI psychosis that the companies, and possibly themselves, won’t survive.
