On Monday, the US Supreme Court decided in Trump v. Slaughter that the US Federal Trade Commission (“FTC”) may not be independent anymore. Since 2000, the EU has relied on the “independent” FTC as the enforcer of EU-US deals on personal data. According to EU treaty law, such oversight must be independent. In the current EU-US deal, the European Commission relies on the independent FTC 259 (!) times.

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    3 days ago

    Please stop calling seflhosting “digital sovereignty”. It’s just a marketing buzzword, but basically there is nothing there except “I will host it myself”.

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      I thought the idea of digital sovereignty means you host services in the same legal domain or country, not that you literally “self host” things. For example, nobody is calling that the EU organization should self-host anything, only that they would use European cloud services.

      Or does “host it myself” actually mean that someone else would host it for you? I don’t believe that’s the common way to understand it.

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      I prefer calling it “digital anarchy”, especially if you’re going so far as setting up your own Meshtastic node.

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      NOYB (non of your business) is great! Not so much a primary news site, but an Austrian NGO that focuses on data privacy in the EU. They have taken some of the biggest cases related to EU:US data transfers against the EU.

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    No data should be exchanged with the US, unless memes taking the piss out of the US are considered data, then yes sure, lots.

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    Pretty sure it’ll make no difference. The agreements were already constantly being broken, and the EU only occassionally bothered doing anything about it. With the current European Comission being made up entirely of American assets, I suspect we’ll see no action on this whatsoever.

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    3 days ago

    This may delay the launch of windows 12 by a few days, possibly a week. But everyone should remain calm, nothing will fundamentally change.

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    4 days ago

    trump wants palantir to handle all the data, so they cant profile “dissidents against right wing governments”

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    Shits just getting started. This is just going to be one of many dominoes from this ruling to the ultimate demise of the USA, even if they do get rid of Trump.

    This + Citizens United + President can’t be charged for official acts = game over.

    The presidency is no longer trust worthy, and now every US agency is no longer trust worthy.

    FDA: The drug isn’t safe

    Trump: Approve it

    FDA: The drug isn’t safe

    Trump: You’re fired

    FDA: The drug is the BEST DRUG WE’VE EVER SEEN!

    Every single agency.

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    4 days ago

    Not sure whether this is an oversight or an intentional breach of the treaty. Hard to tell when one side acts in bad faith.

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    4 days ago

    The title is wrong. SCOTUS didn’t make anything happen … the question is what EU regulators will do, and my guess is they won’t do a damn thing. But you never know!

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      3 days ago

      Any day?? Year? Decade!!! Actions speak louder than words and actions prove Europe leaders want this.

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      What’s transferred is transferred. The amount of available data is massive. Thats not even considering complacency going forward.

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        It’s so fucking stupid they keep saying they will abandon our tech AND YET…

        Less talky more doey guys. We are all waiting!

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        Enjoying my EU hosted services, and looking forward to my next-gen cloud office software from the EU, and I’m already bypassing US retail brands for most of my electronics.

        There was a time that saying “buy American” wasn’t a curse or a threat.

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          My eu hosted services pass through us servers. Every single one is like this. Probably because your countries are spying on Americans too, and you’re all in cahoots together.

          The day that the regular people of Europe and America, realize our leaders are all mutually fucking us together and hopping over to an island to fuck kids while laughing at us will be a fucking great day.

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    I’m not sure. Technically, yes, but there have been a number of EU treaties like that before that got all chopped by the courts, and the EU just went and found other lame excuses to try the same shit again.

    So, theoretically, the EU has to rip that treaty to shreds, and have no real chance to get another attempt because all legal pathways have now been burned.

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    With the CLOUD, FISA and PATRIOCT acts, any privacy was already inexistant on USA soil, so at least if the commission can pull its head out of its ass, it coald be better.

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    4 days ago

    Watching The Man in the High castle hits very different now.
    People over here are seeing what is going on in the USA but
    they might still vote for Reform and then we are done. The rich will make sure that they control everything including
    every citizen.
    Palantir, Musk, Bezos,Thiel and all the other monsters will plunder
    what is left of the worlds resources and retreat to their many bunkers
    or Mars. They think AI will fix the earth and according to them millions will die in the process of them remaking the world into a Technocratic feudal system.And for that they want all the data till they know more
    about you than you do yourself.

    At least that’s what they have in their project 2025 and beyond as a plan.
    They want only the “right” people to survive. It makes horrifying reading, they think of empathy and kindness as big
    massive weakness,they want the sick,disabled ,lgbtq and others to die as thy are seen as a burden on their system. Sorry for the rant but I am old and these people scare me.