• tabular@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    The alternative being… not paying and still getting it, Nintendo??

    Or would you rather no one buy or play games from you? I stopped a long time ago.

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      17 days ago

      Nintendo had long since realized that their customers are kids who see Pokemon and Mario and scream at their parents until they buy it for them. They can charge whatever they whatever they want and those kids will still bug their parents until they get it.

      Everyone else that buys their products is just a bonus if they still keep buying even after the prices get jacked up. Nintendo made their decision about who to prioritize, and the only boycott that would work to turn things around would have to be orchestrated by all the parents of all the 6 year olds in the world, and I doubt that’ll happen.

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    17 days ago

    just my 2 cents: Nintendo did not raised the tariffs… and they neither profited on them…

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      17 days ago

      Very retarded take.

      1. Trump implement stupid tariffs laws
      2. Nintendo passes the price hike to consumers
      3. Courts orders tariffs refund for all affected companies including Nintendo
      4. Nintendo refuses to refund to customers
      5. Profit?
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      17 days ago

      But they did profit from the tariffs, as Nintendo gets the refunds but do not pass it on to the customers?

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        17 days ago

        Does Nintendo get a refund? I thought the tariffs were paid by the people who import the product, not the manufacturer. Meaning Best Buy or Amazon would be paying the tariff and entitled to a refund, not Nintendo.

        I guess there is also Nintendo NA, who might be the importer who then distributes to Best Buy or Amazon???

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          16 days ago

          Nor is there anything ‘unjust’ about Nintendo retaining money that it may receive from the government as tariff refunds. The fact that Nintendo stands to receive tariff refunds does not give Plaintiffs any legal entitlement to those funds.”

          so perhaps they did not yet receive the refunds, but if/when they do, customers can get fucked.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      They want to eat their cake, and have it to. Will capitalism benefit the capitalists like it does 99.99% of the time? You bet your sweet ass it will!

      99.99% of the time, it works every time!

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        17 days ago

        I’m reminded of how Disney pulled most of their movie ideas from the public domain, and then pushed hard to try to extend copyright so that none of their movies would ever enter the public domain themselves.

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      15 days ago

      I hate comments like this. Nintendo paid an illegal tax, so they deserve a refund. Consumers got screwed by their government, not Nintendo.

      Also, if you think the tariffs, AI, threat of more tariffs, Iran war, etc. haven’t increases the cost of operations for businesses then you’re not paying attention to current events.

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        15 days ago

        I hate comments like this. Mega corps do not need you to defend them. Fuck them. They can afford to give some of that money back.

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          15 days ago

          I’m not defending anyone, just explaining how the law is working in this scenario as people seems to have lost the ability to understand simple taxes (tariffs).

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      16 days ago

      I mean, not quite the same logic. The tariffs that Nintendo paid were deemed illegal. The price consumers paid was not deemed to be illegal. At least, not yet, as the case is ongoing.

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        16 days ago

        I’m sure their logic would also say “When we raised prices, fewer people bought our stuff, so we already paid the price.” Or something skeezy like that.

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    15 days ago

    Imagine the court to dismiss the lawsuit, and then use their decision as evidence for refusing USA to pay tariff refunds to Nintendo.

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    16 days ago

    Nintendo told the court that “the doctrine of unjust enrichment does not apply when a party voluntarily pays a purchase price and receives a product in return.” Nintendo said plaintiffs “received exactly what they paid for: Nintendo products that Plaintiffs knowingly and voluntarily purchased at the advertised price. Nor is there anything ‘unjust’ about Nintendo retaining money that it may receive from the government as tariff refunds. The fact that Nintendo stands to receive tariff refunds does not give Plaintiffs any legal entitlement to those funds.”

    I’m a lifelong Nintendo fan but this is robber baron speak. You don’t blame the victim of price manipulation by telling them they deserve to pay unjust prices because they have no other choice than to pay unjust prices or go without. This is the type of shit medieval feudal lords would pull when oppressing peasants. This type of behavior doesn’t belong in the 21st century.

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    17 days ago

    They’ve ALWAYS sucked but had a very friendly face. Remember how they tried to ban renting in North America? They failed to do so for games, but they got their filthy clutches on the manuals so game shops weren’t allowed to rent those out. They didn’t need to do that but they did just to make the experience a little bit worse for us consumers.

    Having said that… The US kinda fucked up themselves, so I’m not sure why Nintendo is being singled out.

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      because folks are bitter about they still charge $60 for a 10 year old game.

      I’m not. I bought a switch 2 last month and Zelda BoTW for $70. It’s great. But what do I know, I’m a morally bankrupt bootlicker or something, because I was happy to spend my money on something that I am enjoying.

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          17 days ago

          what? I literally just bought it 3 weeks ago. That number is going to be high because I only have 4 games.

          I will buy more games as time goes by and that cost will go down. That’s how math works.

          I also bought a PS5 four years ago, and only had a few games for it for the first few months… that’s how buying consoles/games works. Now I probably have like 50+ games for it, but it’s been years.

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      16 days ago

      Nintendo is being singled out because they’re withholding the tariff refunds for tariffs they never paid and passed on to the customers. When the tariffs were imposed, no one really blamed Nintendo and knew it was the Administration’s fault. If Nintendo didn’t want sales to drop because of higher prices, they could have eaten the additional tariff cost until it all got sorted out. Had they done this, then they’d be entitled to that tariff refund money. Instead they passed on the tariff cost to customers, which sucks for customers but was really the only sensible thing Nintendo could have done given the circumstances, and most people aren’t really blaming Nintendo on that decision. But now Nintendo is trying to have it both ways, not pay any of the tariffs and keep all of the tariff refunds which is why they’re being singled out. It’s pure greed on their part with blatant disrespect to their customers.

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        13 days ago

        Ok, but which other companies reimbursed the tarrif surcharges? Or did every other company eat the tarrif costs?

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          13 days ago

          You’re right, i reread the article and it mentions similar lawsuits against Sony / Microsoft, so they all suck. I think the reason Nintendo is being singled out here is because there is not a lot of news with those other lawsuits, but with this one, Nintendo is trying to dismiss the case saying plaintiffs:

          “received exactly what they paid for: Nintendo products that Plaintiffs knowingly and voluntarily purchased at the advertised price. Nor is there anything ‘unjust’ about Nintendo retaining money that it may receive from the government as tariff refunds. The fact that Nintendo stands to receive tariff refunds does not give Plaintiffs any legal entitlement to those funds.”

          With Nintendo’s litigious history and them being the first to try to dismiss the case with this argument, they deserve the blowback they’re getting from their own customers.

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            Yeah I think I see what you mean. Their North American customers are like the most loyal of their base and they can’t even fucking throw them a bone. They’re not required to, but fucking come on.

            But at the same time… People should not have have bought non essentials from a company with a history of fucking over their base. What the hell were they expecting? Companies look after one thing: the stock holders. They don’t give two shits about the customers as long as they can make them buy more shit.

    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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      17 days ago

      the only console outside of my Steam Deck that i still occasionally use is my old Nintendo DS, because of it’s small form factor and my seemingly undying M3 card lol

      • The Velour Fog @lemmy.world
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        17 days ago

        Back when Nintendo made good consoles. My 3DS has been my daily driver since 2012, and so far only needed to replace the thumbstick because the rubber degraded. It’s a little tank and I love it.

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          17 days ago

          I had to replace my DS because the hinge broke, which was pretty common back then. I scored myself a used one from the revision a few years back, where they made the hinges more robust.

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      17 days ago

      Likewise. The Switch 2 is a very nice handheld, but it doesn’t hold a candle to having a never-locked-down x86 PC in your hands.

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        17 days ago

        it also costs half as much as a steamdeck.

        you’re comparing a Civic to a BMW3 series and asking why the Civic doesn’t have leather seats and a 5K audio system.

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          17 days ago

          If you want to discuss prices, discuss them fully. The Deck is more expensive, but the games are cheaper. And the day I bought the Deck I already had a massive collection, with many more games added for free from epic, giveaways…

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            17 days ago

            Depends on when you buy the game. New retail games on steam deck are still 50-60 bucks.

            I can also find massive discounts on digital games on switch. I just bought like a bunch of $5 or less games on the last eshop sale.

            Does Zelda and Mario go on sale for $5? No. They go on sale for like $30-40. I also just bought Mario Odsyessy for $40.

            I’m happy to pay these prices. Cool if you are not? Lots of people buy shit I would never spend my money on. I haven’t bought a gaming PC in 15 years, because it me it seems like a huge waste of money and time.

            Almost as if other people have different preferences, and priorities than you do? And they are happy to buy products you are not.

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    17 days ago

    Nintendo aren’t a good company but they no doubt lost sales due to the higher tariffs and I don’t really blame them.

    My opinion the tariffs are the US’s own fault they shouldn’t have voted in a moron.

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      They also don’t know what the current US adminstration will do next. As soon as the tarrifs were struck down Trump implemented new ones. And the thing is that he wasn’t even given as much as a stern talking to for implementing these illegal world affecting tarrifs. In other nations these would have been career ending.

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        16 days ago

        In other nations, the leading government figure probably isn’t kept in power by politicians that refuse to do their duty or citizens that stopped caring about facts when it was still legal to smoke on planes.

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      16 days ago

      My opinion the tariffs are the US’s own fault they shouldn’t have voted in a moron.

      Actually, the election was rigged in favor of Trump. He stole it. You just don’t hear about it because all he does is cover up shit and gut regulatory bodies while screaming about the left doing it first.

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        I’ll say the same thing to you as I said to them back then. You have to provide proof for claims like that. I really want that to be true and something to be done about it but I need evidence first.

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    17 days ago

    Now that Nintendo greed is fully out in the open I hope a lot of their fans leave. The relationship should be symbiotic, not parasitic.

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      16 days ago

      I doubt the majority of the nintendo customers are going to care to be honest. The only people that really got screwed were people decided to jump on board and buy the switch 2 after they raised the prices by 40$ in response to the tariffs.

      Not saying that I think those customers who did spend more on it shouldn’t get a refund but, I do think that the majority of nintendo fans are either unaffected, or the amount wouldn’t be worth chasing. I highly doubt this instance will be the deciding factor on many fans for a “yea fuck Nintendo I’m out” reaction. There are far worse things that Nintendo has done that I think would have caused it prior.

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      17 days ago

      americans voted for this. they wanted to be fleeced.

      everyone told them tariffs were stupid, and they told those people to f off, they know better and Trump is a Really Smart Guy Who Knows What He Is Doing.

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      17 days ago

      If only it were so. Unfortunately prices were jacked up worldwide to compensate. If only the Americans were paying the tarrif it would have been an extra $50-100 for the console in the U.S. easy.

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    17 days ago

    I don’t like Nintendo, and even here they totally failed their communication because there was 100 ways to put this more user-friendly, but they are right in not issuing refunds. Things can go on sale, you don’t go and ask for refund because you bought it a few months before at full price and sue companies for not telling you in advance there will be sale, when and for how much discount.