I never built up a CD collection but I now started a digital DRM free local collection. Yes, I am actually buying that stuff (call me stupid if you like) but only loss free.
One of the few disks I own is sadly too corruoted for error free ripping, luckuly I still have it as mp3. That album simply does not wxist online anymore, anywhere. Possibly not even in the darker corners of the net. I think that happens more often than many believe.
Realistically we shouldn’t need laws for this. We should all just vote with our wallets. If we can’t own then you go out of business.
However there should be laws against companies changing the terms of the contract after sale.
Buying is renting, pirating is owning
It’s fucked up that this is basically true now
It’s high time laws protected us from this. Yes, even from High Lord Gaben.
If we buy it, we own it. We can transfer them to other account. Any stores selling stuff must have a plan in place for what happens when the store closes, whether that’s transferring ownership to another store, or something involving making files publicly downloadable…
The starving (and recent gutting) of the public domain demonstrates the institution of intellectual property persists in bad faith. Therefore media piracy is a legitimate means to acquire and consume media.
As the C-suite and its political and paramilitary minions have shown us crime is not about behavior and consequences, but who you are and to whom you bend the knee.
This hasn’t bothered me at all. I’ve been _Arr_chiving a lot lately.
Well, aren’t you quaint. Next thing you’ll be asking for is seed corn that you can replant year after year from the corn it grows, heated seats in your cars without a subscription payment, replaceable batteries in your battery powered electronics.
Don’t forget a subscription free garage opener/motor camera.
I think I got the last one of those, but mine did come with a “free” phone app to open/close the door. The app turned into an advertising platform about 3 years after I put the opener in - no options out, gotta see the ads if I want to use my opener via app.
That’s bonkers.
Pihole?
Have one, suppose I could try tweaking filters around whatever it gets its ads from, but the code to present the button to open the door doesn’t show up until after the ads do, so I suspect all my pihole will be able to do is break the app.
What an evil piece of shit
In the world of “fair” - it still has the old battery powered remote buttons to keep in the cars, and the button on the wall, just like openers always have had, but I’m not in my cars or near the button about 2/3 of the time I want to open or close that door - so I just get pissed off specifically at that company every time I use their app. Whatever they get from those ads really can’t be worth that loss of customer good will, can it?
Beyond the obvious problem of paying but not owning, it’s impossible to watch/listen without that data being stored on a massive-corpation’s server and likely sold to hundreds of advertisers. Last I saw Spotify had over 300 venders they share data with. I’ve seen sites with over 1000.
So you’re not only paying for something you don’t own, but you’re also paying to have a larger profile in the surveillance capitalism machine.
yeah, this is the part that really worries me. Ads are fine IMO, psychological profiling not so much. I used to hear “if you’re not paying, you’re the product,” but now you’re the product even if you are paying.
By the way, are any of the other streaming services better than Spotify for not having your data sold to third parties?
RE “If you’re not paying, you’re the product,” also doesn’t always apply when it comes to not paying EG: Linux and other FOSS products.
Not that I know of, unless self-hosting. I’ve gone back to ripping CDs and sometimes buying DRM-free HQ audio. Probably getting my purchases profiled, but at least I can download it and no one else has to know when, what, & how much I’m listening to.
For easier access I have a Jellyfin server on my home network. I plan to switch to navidrome or similar for a better, dedicated music experience as well as setting up secure access over the internet for me and my friends and family.
have a larger profile in the surveillance capitalism machine.
This is why, when I’m not watching, I’ll set Netflix to stream movies I like.
I do! I own CDs and vinyls. I collect mainly CDs because they are smaller and need less storage.
Do you just collect the CDs or do you also play them with a CD player? I feel like it’s not even worth the hassle of getting a system set up to play CDs compared to a record player because the quality won’t be as good.
I’ve got a good couple dozen of CDs I bought over the years when I hadn’t used Spotify yet - moved to self-hosting now - and I was always wondering if I should work on actually playing CDs instead of just burning them
I listen to them on a Sony discman! At the moment I have an old computer speakers with subwoofer, and I don’t care much for the quality. I also use iems which is much better.
The thing I adore is that I pop any cd I like and start cooking without ads. It can be jazz, a funky house cd mix, pop and goes on.
I also have like the feeling of finding hidden gems in record stores. I will spend 2 hours there, searching, doing previews on my phone and then rush home to spin them.\That’s really cool, and I love that you found a new way to enjoy music.
In my case, I just have the CDs in a shelf and don’t ever touch them anymore which is kinda sad. Been thinking about getting a disc drive to digitise the CDs and put the music on my server, but I can get music digitally anyway, so what’s the point is what I’m thinking.
A disc man sounds cool in theory, but in practise I’m not sure I’d like the hassle of changing CDs and using wired headphones. How long did it take you to adjust?
Just to clarify some things: Since Spotify blocked cracked apps, my main goal was to have free music along with my CD collection(which grows slowly). So now days, one day it could be couple CD’s, and the other music from the internet Youtube(FreeTube and NewPiPe), BandCamp, SoundCloud and Qobuz(wink wink). I listen my CD’s at home(sometimes when I commute to work), outside I use my smartphones, which they have MP3’s and HiFi flacc files.
It didn’t took me long, maybe couple months until my collection did actually grow and I would actually listen more frequently.Also regarding hassle changing, it’s less hassle than changing a vinyl! and it has more music in it. 1 hour+.
I would suggest try and see what works best for you! There is nothing wrong ripping and storing them, many people do it. If you end buying a cd player, you could only spin on weekends. It’s up to you! I’m just a romantic guy who likes do stuff the old way, because I don’t really fit on the new world lol.
Thanks for the detailed write-up and the “Qobuz” link - hadn’t heard of that before. Looking forward to them adding API access so I can add the site as an app to my server more easily.
Also I imagine it’s really cool to have that, literal, physical connection to your music. Makes it more tangible and more substantial since you curate what you listen to more so than just via downloads.
I’ll think about what I’ll do with my CDs!
Beyond the “experience”. If you rip the CD into something lossless, it should be audibly the same. Vinyl versus CD. People claim “warmth” difference.
It’s always been hypocrisy. The media companies only say what part you actually own based whatever is most profitable to them.
Technically, back in the day, when you bought any music wether it be 8-track, LP, cassette, or CD, you were purchasing a single-user license for the music and the media was just how the record companies delivered it to you. That’s why Napster and all the piracy that followed it was/is illegal, because you don’t own a license when you copy the digital file.
HOWEVER… Over the many decades I’ve been alive I’ve scratched, twisted, demagnetized, or just plain old lost hundreds of LPs, cassettes, and CDs. Do you think if I requested a new copy of the music that the record companies would send me a replacement?
No, they would not. So I obtained digital replacements by…other means.
Now that we’re all used to digital copies, suddenly that’s been the important part all along.
That’s why if you want to support artists, you can buy the shit locked down files so they get the artist gets paid, and then just never use them. Pay for them but get your actual files from piracy.
Better yet, if the artist has a website or something like Bandcamp buy from there so they actually get a decent chunk of the money you give instead of the pittance left over after the distributors and record companies have taken their cut.
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I mean, you can do that.
But it’s inconvenient and expensive and takes up space. So most folks choose not to do that for pragmatic reasons. Physical media still is broad available for books and music. Less so for films and TV shows, but many are still available in physical formats at online retailers.
I have a lot of physical books, like 500+. People tend to be quite negative about it and have so for a long time, because the popular conception is that physical media is stupid and wasteful. A lot of people take pride in owning nothing physical and regard that as ‘minimalism’ and are more than happy to purchase digital rentals or subscriptions only to further this aesthetic.
But it makes no sense to continue to produce physical media if only a niche audience is buying it, unless the product is niche, cheap to produce and has a high mark up. That’s why Vinly works, folks are willing to pay $30 per record and records cost pennies to physical reproduce.
I didn’t read the article, so I’m not sure how hung up they are on physical media, but the title is about owning vs renting/subscriptions. There are still places were digital copies can be purchased and downloaded to own, DRM-free. Personally, I prefer to store bits on HDDs and SSDs rather than CDs. Of course, that option is limited. Digital music can still be owned (eg bandcamp,Q-something,etc), same for audiobooks (shout out libro.fm), ebooks less so, but still possible and workarounds exist (deDRM).
Movies and TV are where it really runs dry. There’s a few indie creators you can buy from directly, but for everything else, if you don’t want to have a bunch of dvd/blu-ray cases taking up space your only non-rent/subscription options are borrowing from the library (my jam, but a limited collection), or pirating.
Speak for yourself. I would pay to see The Chamberpot of Secrets where Vulvamort tries to enter the little boy’s room.
I have no fear that Amazon will come to my house and remove the books I bought. If they were DRMed ebooks, on the other hand, that would be something to worry about.
I was always more angry about them editing digital publications after the fact. That’s some Grade A “Ministry of Truth” BS right there. Dead Tree Media forever.
Never forget: Han shot first.
I like the 4K77 versions.
I mean, a Kobo + Anna’s Archive also works without dead trees.
Only way I feel I can push back is by also saving it locally 🏴☠️
