• Raiderkev@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Fucking duh. They also can’t tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.

  • Guadin@k.fe.derate.me
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    2 months ago

    I don’t get why there needs to be a whole lengthy article on this. Yes, it’s sad. But is it really any different than all those webcam sites where they pretend to be in to you? Or back in the old days a guy with a high voice on the sexphone telling they are “so wet in bed right now” while making dinner for the family? Nothing in the porn/sex/entertainment world is real. Sometimes the people are, but sometimes they are not. And maybe they know it’s fake and therefore are not holding back since they don’t Harm the individual in the clip? (OK probably not the last one, but still…)

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      2 months ago

      This and 50-60+ years of being able to take video at face value.

      Add to that the fact that a lot of them are lonely and probably have been for a very long time.

      We already knew the elderly were particularly vulnerable to scams. AI just turbo charges the same scams we’ve been seeing for awhile. It’s catfishing but taken to a whole new level and the elderly are already a vulnerable target.

      It’s a lot easier for you get people to learn new media literacy and accept that things are changing.

      This is not an endorsement of the behavior. It’s pointing out that we already pretty much knew this was going to be a thing. This isn’t much different than your grandma trying to send money to someone scammers who called her about an overdue bill or late taxes.

  • Xeno@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Not a boomer but I follow a thirst trap guy on youtube who I was always sure was AI (like fully artificial, not based on a real person), but then he posted a really messy video (like imperfect skin, not fully shredded, awful lighting, messy room that didn’t look glamorous) and now I’m no longer sure, like there’s a chance it’s a real guy recording himself then asking AI to make him look flawless. Which means I may have been thirsting over a human all this time, ugh.

    The point is I knew AI could improve real videos or generate realistic videos from scratch, but I assumed it was still easy to tell one from the other. Well, turns out either AI is now able to generate messy videos from scratch (that truly look low quality/effort) or it’s able to make real videos look like they were made from scratch. So I genuinely don’t trust myself to distinguish what’s AI anymore. And I’m around 30, so I don’t even have the age excuse.

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      2 months ago

      Which means I may have been thirsting over a human all this time, ugh.

      So thirsting over AI is your preference? Eww

      • Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        I already read the response to this but to come back.

        Does it matter if the object of desire is “real”

        People have performed fantasy for ages, this does not need to be about sex. Just because you know superheroes aren’t real doesn’t mean you cant enjoy the movie or low and behold have a wet dream of superman flying holding you in his arms.

        People have been thirsting over lara crofts 3d boobs, i am not even gonna get started on japan.

        Just that it was entirely expected and probably can be considered normal behaviour for (some) primates including humans to be mesmerised by a digital dream.

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          Does it matter if the object of desire is “real”

          If it doesn’t matter to you, then it doesn’t matter.

          Just because you know superheroes aren’t real doesn’t mean you cant enjoy the movie or low and behold have a wet dream of superman flying holding you in his arms.

          Lo* and behold. The phrase is “lo and behold” lol

          Imagination is good. Using your imagination is good. That isn’t what we’re talking about here. What we’re talking about is AI-generated porn, essentially.

          Once I’m aware that something is AI-generated, it becomes gross and weird. That’s how I feel, but I acknowledge that you might not feel that way.

          People have been thirsting over lara crofts 3d boobs, i am not even gonna get started on japan.

          Was not expecting random racism.

      • Xeno@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 months ago

        lol no I was joking, but I did subscribe to this guy specifically because I was curious about the concept, like I read the comments and I can’t tell if people are role playing or they actually think it’s a real guy (and as I said, it might actually be and I was the actual fool).

  • Optional@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Hey it sure beats talking to a non-dude about . . . y’know . . feelings. Like that’s ever gonna happen.

    Sure, next thing you’ll want to convince us the objects of lust are human women with their own thoughts, physiology, and preferences. RIGHT!

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      2 months ago

      They’ll talk to a non-dude about feelings. Their feelings. In fact, they’ll do that instead of seeing a therapist.

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        2 months ago

        Only a certain pre-selected set of ones, including: victorious, invincible, sly, brilliant, and suave.

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          2 months ago

          I mean, I hear women complain about how men use them as a substitute for therapy, so I assume that they aren’t just talking about how awesome they are.

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    2 months ago

    One time I went to a strip club when I turned 18. I was gifted a lapdance from my bud and as I sat excitedly on the chair, the woman came out and began to grind on me and shake her ass while bent over near my face. I quickly realized her ass stank. Her ass stank pretty bad. Why had no one told her she stank?? Why did it have to be me to be the first to notice??? Am I a victim here??

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    2 months ago

    The beer bottle for our beetle brains. These beautiful bots bemusing these bewildered boomers don’t exist.

  • eicker@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    At some point you have to stop blaming the algorithm: If you’re posting »good morning beautiful« under an image where the hands have six fingers and the background melts into itself, the problem isn’t cutting edge AI. Basic digital literacy is part of living online, regardless of your age.

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      2 months ago

      I looked at some of the videos. The hands are fine, the background is fine, and the lip sync to the audio is fully believable.

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        2 months ago

        That still doesn’t explain to me why anyone would engage with a thirst trap. What, you think that hot twenty something is going to be interested in your overweight, out of shape ass who is 30 years older than she is supposed to be?

        • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 months ago

          They’re desperate and not capable of introspecive rational thought. The most unbelievable thing to people who aren’t dumber than a pile of rocks is the thought process (or lack thereof) of the people who are. I recommend trying not to rationalize it yourself for their behalf, you’ll end up with psychic damage

        • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 months ago

          Perry sure they’ve mentally resigned themselves to living life in their mental land of make believe

      • HereIAm@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Yeah, people really need to stop pretending AI slop still produce wonky hands and smeared background. Yes, you will still find those, but you can’t rely on that anymore. Even videos when well made are hard to tell if it’s AI or not.

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          2 months ago

          Well, it makes sense, that if sex sells (and also rallies, look at 30s’ and 40s’ propaganda), then believable digital succubi are the most expected application of computers once that becomes possible.

          It’s actually funny how, looking at stuff retrospectively, the main change of 60s was less idealized sexuality in art and propaganda and artifacts like that, but more in participatory culture.

          Things like pr0n in the Internet are sometimes described as continuation of that, I think they are more of a reversal. Pr0n helps to make things taboo.

          Not for everyone, of course, but for people with social disabilities. Of the very kind that join radical groups, listen to romanticist (in the XIX century meaning of the word) music, and/or, like me, just kick rocks till being 30 for everything social.

          It’s the difference between participatory and herd culture in general. Say, 00s’ Web, where people would have simple webpages, against today’s Web, where technical ability to do something doesn’t matter because people almost fear those doing anything outside of big platforms with company employees as invisible herders. It’s weird, freaky, strange. As if you were doing something illegal.

          Those who participate can’t be led by promise of satisfying this or that desire. With the Web example, look at Telegram ; it’s not secure despite its creators almost claiming that, but it does satisfy the desire for having conversation spaces similar to Web forums, with easy discovery ; on most big platforms, that’s made intentionally inconvenient to make people reliant upon recommendations, and recommendations are formed to satisfy advertising conversion goals.

          Now, that’s a desire rather high in Maslow pyramid. Sex is far more basic and important for control.

          I’ve also recently seen a few Facebook posts by one good newspaper’s main editor, with his excitement about Claude, mostly on using it to learn and think about anthropological stuff. So it’s an intellectual succubus as well. Pretty smart people are vulnerable in the same general way as those lonely people, just with a different profile.

        • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          The current tell is “weird eye-lines and physics” no one looks anyone in the eyes and everything is very “dream where youre trying to run but gravity turned off for some reason”

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            2 months ago

            Even the floaty physics are almost gone. The new models and processes are fixing that.

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      2 months ago

      Let’s back up. If you’re posting “good morning beautiful” to ANYONE YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW, you’re probably a piece of shit. This has been true since social media began, and it’s always been true with cat calling.

      • belochka@lemmy.world
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        Eh, sorry, but that’s a valid instinct and interest. Yep, someone fully realized as a person and with good social surroundings won’t likely want that. Plenty of people are unfortunately not.

        Now when you’re not getting any hints or do have good social surroundings yet go for such a bait, you are not very wise and might not be a good person.

        But - sometimes English-speaking Web seems kinda puritan still.

        If you are going to answer that last part with observation that such comments are cringe and unlikely to attract another person in a non-puritan setting as well, I am aware of that. Clumsiness exists, stupidity exists, various wounds exist. Have some humanity.

      • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Fine, but self-awareness comes in stages. Learning to recognize that others are scamming them is an easier step than recognizing that they’re scummy.