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slaacaa@lemmy.world to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

Study: Male circumcision just after birth does not increase autism risk

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Study: Male circumcision just after birth does not increase autism risk

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slaacaa@lemmy.world to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago
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Study led by researchers at the Bloomberg School of Public Health finds boys circumcised just after birth did not have a higher risk of autism compared to uncircumcised boys

cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/science/p/1324325/study-male-circumcision-just-after-birth-does-not-increase-autism-risk

cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/onion/p/1324284/study-male-circumcision-just-after-birth-does-not-increase-autism-risk

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    So it’s not as bad as Tylenol?

    Is there a study to see if it helps with headache since I can’t take Tylenol anymore?

  • amniotic druid@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Still genital mutiliation and child sex abuse

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      2 months ago

      you beat me to that exact phrase 👍

    • slaacaa@lemmy.worldOP
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      Agree. I’m from Europe and I find it very weird how common it is in the US

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        The first time I saw an un-circumcised penis was in porn when I was in my early 20s, I think. What little sex ed we had in the rural US in the '80s and early '90s didn’t even have an image of one that wasn’t circumcised so far as I recall. I thought it was some kind of birth defect or something.

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        It’s SO common in the US that while growing up I felt ashamed and incredibly self concious of being uncircumsized in high school showers. Life’s so strange.

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          It’s not really a thing outside the USA? At least not in Canada anymore. I’m one of a bunch of kids and about halfway through my siblings they stopped recommending it.

          Confused the hell out of 8 year old me tasked with giving my 3 year old brother a shower.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Yep, I got teased for it

        • velma@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          Thankfully the millennial generation has started doing away with circumcising our children. Last time I checked, which was admittedly 10 years ago, the circumcision rates were closer to 50/50 in the US.

          Update: It’s dropped below 50%!

          “We reviewed over 1.5 million U.S. hospitalizations of male neonates, ages 0 to 28 days, during the period 2012 to 2022, and found that the overall prevalence of hospitalizations where a neonatal male circumcision was performed decreased significantly, from 54.1% to 49.3%,” says study co-senior author Aaron Tobian, M.D., Ph.D., professor of pathology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “Decreases were observed across most patient and hospital subgroups, including whites — a group with traditionally high circumcision rates — where circumcisions dropped 5.3% over the decade studied.”

          https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/2025/09/johns-hopkins-study-newborn-male-circumcision-rates-in-us-dropped-between-2012-and-2022

          • taj@lemmy.world
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            My husband started out with the “he should look like me…” and then quickly came around after a bit of reading. The Adam Ruins Everything on circumcision is great!

          • Reygle@lemmy.world
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            It’s good to know it’s moving toward not maiming kids. I’m afraid to ask about vaccination rates because my sister’s kids are of questionable status on that front, and my sister won’t talk about such things. Very alternative hippy type.

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              I wish the stats were even better than they are now honestly. I think it’s a horrendous practice.

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
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        I’m from the US and didn’t circumcise my son. It’s really simple. Who doesn’t want more penis? I’d take more penis. Penis is all good. Why subtract penis?

        When my older brother had a son he DID circumcise him. When I asked why, he gave me this head shake as if to say “huh? what?” and all he said was “that’s just how they do it at the hospital we went to.”

        I mean labor and childbirth are a whirlwind so I don’t blame anyone for losing a detail or two. Unless that detail subtracts a part of my penis. Then we gone fight.

        • epicurean_toast@lemmus.org
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          I have a hard time faulting people for following a doctor’s recommendation if that’s what was going on.

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            That’s overstating it. There wasn’t even a conversation about it let alone anything as strong as a doctor’s recommendation. More like a default hospital protocol. Which I’m sure you’d agree should be open to question.

    • PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au
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      Yes bit it doesn’t cause autism so it’s not bad/wrong.

  • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It can result in higher rates of herpes in some communities though.

    • crandlecan@mander.xyz
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      scientific source?

      • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26407411/ and related articles.

        • gedaliyah@lemmy.world
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          Not at all what the article says. The herpes connection has nothing to do with the act of circumcision, and was a review of individual case studies, not an overall rate.

          • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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            I stand corrected, it’s totally not weird for some old dude to suck a baby dick and this hasn’t resulted in transmission of disease. Well done.

            • historicaldocuments@lemmy.world
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              The practice has a body count:

              • https://abcnews.com/Health/baby-dies-herpes-virus-ritual-circumcision-nyc-orthodox/story?id=15888618
              • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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                I am aware. Crazy shit, can’t believe anyone would defend the practice.

        • meat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Is it really too much to ask that jewish leaders with herpes not put their mouths on chilren’s penises after cutting them? Wow.

          • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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            Maybe we’re just making mountains out of mohels though.

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          GROSS! I never knew they did that afterwards.

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            It’s forbidden in many States, but it just continued in secret, 'cause tradition.

      • gedaliyah@lemmy.world
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        There is none, but here are some that show just the opposite:

        Male Circumcision for the Prevention of Acquisition and Transmission of Sexually Transmitted Infections (2010)

        Male Circumcision for the Prevention of HSV-2 and HPV Infections and Syphilis (2009)

        The Medical Benefits of Male Circumcision (2013)

        Circumcision impedes viral disease (2009)

        Circumcision Curbs Risk of Genital Herpes and HPV Infection (2009)

        • lechekaflan@lemmy.world
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          I read that there were even neolithic societies already employing circumcision as ritual, long before Western colonization.

        • crandlecan@mander.xyz
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          I have very very high doubt here

          • frunch@lemmy.world
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            Are you saying the sources are likely fake or false in some way?

            • crandlecan@mander.xyz
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              False and propaganda from the religious alt right. Also look at how close those dates are. Sounds like a paid-for “science” campaign. If there was a valid medical reason against not circumcising, I’d probably have heard about it by now.

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                (And yes, in individual cases, a medical circumcision is required, but not for hygiene or STD prevention, and it can never be a general guideline. The damage (loss of nerve sensation, lack of lubrication) is a much bigger problem, including for the female partner.).

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                What is their play here? Do they have something to gain by men getting circumcised?

                • crandlecan@mander.xyz
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                  religion, power over others, right wing retorica, conservatives, imbeciles, …

  • slaacaa@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    Glad we cleared this up

  • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Obviously. Nowhere to hide the Tylenol.

    (why am I like this?)

    • crandlecan@mander.xyz
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      despair?

      • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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        hmmmm no. Making a jokes about hiding autism inducing OTCs in your foreskin defs comes from different place than that for me

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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          Ah, personal experience!

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            Nothing beats the personal touch, true

            • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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              If you can try it with tylonol. I call it the rattle snake

              • crandlecan@mander.xyz
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                just don’t toss it in your salad. made that mistake some time ago… it ain’t good!

                • Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  I usually throw a Claritin in there, or maybe even a Wurther’s Original depending on the destination.

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    What kind of craziness would cause a person to think that it might?

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      neurospices are stored in the foreskin, when you cut it they get released into the bloodstream! /s

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      What kind of craziness would cause a person to do it in the first place?

      • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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        Abusive murderous wizard friend needs his favorite little calamari rings.

    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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      Welcome to 2026. Hope your cryo sleep was good. You will find that this kind of craziness is now pervasive.

      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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        I. C. Weiner…?

    • SuiXi3D@fedia.io
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      I could maybe see how the pain and/or trauma of it could alter how the brain might develop, but even that’s a stretch…

      • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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        Especially given the crossover between asd and CPTSD, it doesn’t strike me as an insane thing to look at, but I’m also not surprised it’s not related.

      • PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au
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        Autism isn’t a trauma response!

    • amniotic druid@lemmy.world
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      Genital mutiliation and child sexual abuse can have extreme consequences on mental development. It’s a (well-intentioned) case of bad cause-effect analysis.

    • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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      Probably the same craziness that causes people to think vaccines cause autism.

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        I would hazard a guess, which obviously I don’t know if this is what they’re really thinking or not, but I would guess that since there are behavioral overlaps between ASD and CPTSD, that somebody might have made the connection.

        That being said, there’s no evidence that circumcision gives people CPTSD on its own, at least none that I am aware of, and if somebody else knows more than I do, (which is quite easy to do), feel free to educate me.

        • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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          My partner is triggered if reminded that it’s circumcised

      • Carighan Maconar@piefed.world
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        Yeah but c’mon, no even halfway-functional adult that doesn’t need a constant “breathe in breathe out” soundtrack playing to explain breathing would suspect vaccines of causing autism. That’d be absurd, we all learn their basic workings in middle school or even earlier, they’re a very known concept.

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        I got som’ Tylenol for you if you have coin for me :>

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    can we still like, stop doing it though ?

    • PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au
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      No, sorry; tradition.

      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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        SKY CAKE

      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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        BuT tHe CeReAl MaN sAiD wE sHoUlD!!!1!

    • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
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      It’s not mandatory, so… yes!

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    “Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears,” says senior author Monica McGrath

    Dear Dr. McGrath,

    Which parents?

    Sincerely,

    Sane people

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      The ones who wouldn’t be persuaded by peer reviewed studies anyway, because they did their research.

  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The brain bone is connected to the… Dick skin bone?

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      Well to be fair they do call that bit of it the head so

  • ActualGrapesTasteGreen@piefed.zip
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    You needed a study to know that circumcising doesn’t cause brain structure differences?

    This IS idiocracy.

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      Science!

  • Racoonwithbenefits@lemmy.zip
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    Im not surprised

    But i am surprised that mutilating your childs genitals without their consent … is perfectly legal

    What next… we make a religion that wants to cuts off your own babies ears?

    Wanna prevent me from doing that? Thats <insert bigotry term> against me and my beliefs

    • baines@lemmy.cafe
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      i’ve always compared it to eyelids

      skin flap helps keep a semi internal organ lubricated and protected

      technically not immediately necessary to function but results in major issues after prolonged absence

      people get super offended and upset because removing an eyelid would clearly be abuse

      lmao fucking americans

      • macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world
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        This is not even close to the same thing. Your argument is invalid. Stop being so upset about other people’s genitals, it is fucking creepy.

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          hey here’s one in the wild! lmao lmao

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            Look at it… So twisted in it’s view of the world… Fascinating…

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          So your fine with female circumcision? Or where do you draw the line?

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          It’s not the best analogy, sure. Your reaction is worse though. It’s like reacting to someone who takes offence at hearing about a knife attack by saying “stop being so upset about other people’s internal organs, it is fucking creepy”.

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    This just in: wisdom tooth removal does not cause autism. Neither does forcibly removing fingernails.

    I mean, they’re all things not to do unless there’s a medical reason for it? But while doing it has consequences, they generally have to do with personal (dis)comfort.

    That said, I’d be upset if someone tried ANY of those procedures on a baby, as they’re all unnecessary on infants.

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    But it does mutilate the child’s genitals.

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    There is no reason for it either…

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      Not true. You just want their to be no reason so you can cope easier.

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        What the fuck are you talking about? Cite any evidence you contend shows a benefit?

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          It makes it easier to clean. This is why I also had my child’s ears surgically removed and their nose widened so I can get a scrub brush up in there.

  • 🌈 vanta rainbow black 🌈@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    fuck AMAB genital mutilation!!! fucking weirdos!!!

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      I mean, I guess, looking at it with our modern understanding. I look at it like leeches - which were once viewed as a way of helping people get healthier, but then we figured out that was wrong.

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        With circumcision we knew it wasn’t for ‘hygiene’ for quite a long time lol. It’s about masturbation. They want men to not be cranking it. They still will tho, that’s the lie that everyone knows and everyone just pretends they don’t. But it’s always been about men jacking it. Can’t be petting the snake with God watching.

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          Watch back. See eye to eye. Cocked and loaded

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          Uh, I don’t think that’s why most modern parents go for it. The reason I’ve heard is “so he looks like his father does.”

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            My mom, an RN, had me mutilated because “it reduces the risk of transmitting HPV”.

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              The HPV vaccine is way more effective. Did you give you that?

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                I know I got it, but I think it was the doctor who gave it to me, I have a fear of needles.

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              Did she also have your spleen removed.

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            Do men typically show it to their kids? Why would it matter to the child?

            What if the kid has curly hair after the mother’s parents? Would they shave it too?

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        https://www.discovermagazine.com/leeches-and-maggots-are-fda-approved-and-still-used-in-modern-medicine-42068

Not The Onion@lemmy.world

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