It wasn’t really worth it before, now it’s even less worth it?
Revanced works perfectly fine on Android and on desktop I use an adblocker.
You don’t even need Revanced. Just use Firefox on both.
I like Revanced. I can listen to stuff even while the screen is locked and have sponsor block and other addons if I want. I think half the time I spend on my phone is watching Youtube and it’s heaps better than Firefox with an adblocker on Android.
I have yt premium and still use revanced. Sponsor block is so goated
YouTube morphed
Does Adblock work for YouTube?
uBlock on Firefox
So just downloaded revanced should i download all the patches or select through?
Or just do some looking online and work it out from that for what i want?
Read the documentation. Just selected is enough, just make sure you have sponsor block selected. I don’t remember if it is selected by default.
What exactly does revanced do to what programs? The website is no help.
Repackages and patches an older version of the Android ytb app as well as some other apps. The patches do different things for different apps (usually remove ads).
I paid for premium until I started getting ads out of nowhere. YouTube changed their policy to include ads in my previously ad-free package.
I cancelled and started using smartTube f-droid. It has sponsor block integrated. Auto-skips all ads, not just the ones injected by YouTube.
Re vanced! For the win!
Aren’t we on morphe now?
Beware having dislike button re-enabled. It’ll fuck up playback
Oh good too know. Recently, I uninstalled and reinstalled because it was locking up and saying playback issues.
I really wish PeerTube would take off, or any other alternative.
So they, too, can enshittify your whole experience? Or are they somehow immune from capitalism??
a certain instance can, but that won’t affect the network as a whole that much. you hop over to another instance and done. the developers also could, but it’s open source, it can be forked by dedicated server operators. It’s also developed by a nonprofit, so there’s not abig risk, and thry have a good track record.
It’s a federated network of open source servers, anybody can host it. So, I think we are pretty safe. For now.
You can’t really monetize PeerTube though, so you’re never going to get full time creators there. Media distribution has always been a choke point. Always will be. Short of a non-profit foundation and a unionized creators guild joining forces to operate a decentralized subscription video platform, you’re never going to have a real alternative. I mean… there’s Nebula which is basically that, but who goes to Nebula, it’s full of lefties and educators and theatre people.
They could still get sponsors and have “ads” during the stream. Though most already do that in addition to YouTube monetization.
You can’t really monetize PeerTube
Lots of channels have a link to their Patreon or a tip jar; lots do live reads.
You can monetize PT with Patreon, but you can monetize YT with Patreon and get paid twice.
That’s why YT has 5 9’s of the creators.
I’m with GreenBeard on this and was always saying that monetization is the biggest peertube problem. Patreon and such are not an ideal option, subscription is IMO. A subscription that would be distributed through authors fairly, but that’s not an easy task I suppose.
Like I said, Nebula does it and it’s pretty good. Hard to get on as a creator unless you have a proven follower base elsewhere though. They’re still mainly using YouTube as a farm league.
Might be interesting to see Nebula set up a fund for PeerTube creators and start using that as a farm league, but I don’t know that they have the subscription revenue for that yet.
liberapay can do that already. but apparently they don’t have the necessary API for integration: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/1586#issuecomment-459100710
Sure, but then you’re still bringing a for-profit company into the mix. PeerTube is your loss-leader and Patreon is your main platform.
Some channels use Ghost instead of Patreon, including one of my favorites Anders Puck
Even though it’s no longer tractable for the casual hobbyist (me) to run a node, Invidious is still usable thanks to absolutely heroic effort by the ~4 organizations still willing and able to invest the crazy infrastructure needed to prevent GOOG from blocking them.
I think PeerTube should be for hobby purposes. I mean, here’s where I am coming from. I am from a period of the internet, where you were not meant to be e-famous. I still at times, believe this. Look at what happened when the idea of the tiniest bit of fame and success people allow to get to their heads when they realize that they can just make videos and profit off of them.
I tried to use it a few times but it’s truly god awful. Both performance-wise and in terms of discoverability.
Nebula is pretty legit but you won’t be able to find everything you want to watch there.
Nebula.tv has been pretty good. I’m considering the lifetime subscription.
I wish PeerTube worked. For a while I tried just leaving in running on the theory that it might help out, but it didn’t seem to do anything. Not sure if I’m doing it wrong?
What did you want it to do?
Did you set up a node? Did you promote it & grow a user base? Federate?
I wanted it to not be dog slow, because every one I tried spent all its time buffering. I’m not really sure how the architecture of it works but it seemed to suggest some kind of p2p thing so thought that leaving the window open might seed it? But either it didn’t or just nobody was interested.
you are not seeding by just leaving the window open on any peertube page. you are only seeding the specific video you have opened, if you have opened one, and probably not the complete video just the last segments you still have cached. this p2p sharing is mostly for when a certain video gets popular, to help with peek load, and for live streams. if the video was buffering for a long time it’s probably because the server did not have enough upload bandwidth, and no other viewer had the video segments.
there is another load balancing system that peertube supports, they can clone videos fromneach other and help serving them: https://docs.joinpeertube.org/admin/following-instances#platforms-redundancy
don’t know why you got downvoted, this is 100% truth
It’s the truth but it also is fantastic proof why the entire concept is doa. The fact this needs explaining at all or is even a problem. Means it’s a non viable system.
Even technical users aren’t going to want to have to fiddle and tinker and read documentation for base entertainment.
It either works or it’s worthless. That’s the bar you have to pass for basic entertainment.
all its time buffering.
Could be a zillion reasons for this. Need an actual instance to debug
I’m running a private, unfederated node; it works. I watch TILVIDS whenever I can find something on there.
This is not an “if you build it, they will come” scenario,
There’s no monetization, so there are almost no content creators.
Creators generally don’t do it for free.
Good creators rely on income from the videos to produce higher-quality videos
Youtube: surfaces creators’ videos pays creators hosts the videos handles CDN
Peertube: The creator pays to host the video (largely against their ISP’s wishes) There’s no surfacing There’s no payments If you’re lucky peertube doesn’t need CDN.
Even if they go all patreon, they’re still not getting that extra cash, surfacing, and free hosting that youtube does.
We need some kind of FOSS Patreon and to have Peertube do some kind of partner/recommendation engine.
I’d rather money not be involved. There’s plenty of people willing to release good content regardless. I’d actually say YouTubes monetization is what made it shitty
No money means no videos. That’s just facts, you can bitch moan and cry if you want. But till money gets involved your not going to see anything actually meaningfully grow.
Video production is just too costly to produce even on a hobbyists level. Either in time or money.
There’s plenty of people willing to release good content regardless.
But there really aren’t. They would be all over the free platforms that have existed for years. But Peertube is nearly bereft of quality content, there are maybe a dozen regular creators that make anything interesting enough to 50% of the population to watch.
I’m not shilling for LMG, but something like Floatplane would make sense. You pay per creator for their extra content and ad free viewing and the cut goes in favor to the creator. Of course Floatplane has to also make money. They’re not in it to serve you ads or use your data to make money. If that took off I could easily see people paying 3-5 creators monthly to watch their videos ad free with extras on one platform.
Same, dude. The power users will assume everyone has the time to assemble/learn the skill of setting it up. That being said, it’s on my list of things to figure out one day!
I stopped paying when they started to openly support Israel. I’m fine with paying a service to maintain itself and Youtube is storing a LOT of high quality video, but giving away millions worth of support to a genocidal state is not something a streaming service’s operating costs should include sooooo fuck ‘em. Ads suck, but I can live with them.
Ads suck, but I can live with them.
I was fully onboard with everything you said until this. It pretty much defeats the point of a boycott to continue using the service in a way that makes them profit.
People pay for YouTube premium?!?!
I do for years and I think it’s great value
I get the same thing for free, so it’s actually a terrible value for you.
I don’t mind content creators getting paid for their work. That’s part of the value of paying.
You don’t get that value.
For me it was debating what music service I wanted to pay for and I decided ad-free YouTube without having to usual anyone was a fine bonus. And it was a decent trade to my brother and cousin when I was in their HBO and Netflix families. But I’m not going to say it’s “great” or anything. In fact if they ever cut my brother or cousin from my family plan (we’ve moved around the U.S. since I first got it,) I’m dropping it.
The only way to stop price increase is unsubscribing, Google need to know it’s a loss, not a win.
Time to quit, just unregistered
LOL.
I had been paying for YouTube Premium for about six years because I fell for the trap when I bought my S9 at launch. (in fairness, I do spend an extreme amount of time a year watching YouTube so at the time it did make cost-effective sense) They gave two years of YouTube premium as a benefit of getting it then I never cancelled. I finally canceled about five or six months ago because the price I had been paying originally was close to $10 a month. I had over the years jumped up to almost 18 a month and a little while I had survived ongoing on a student discount. But when the student discount plan jumped to almost $12 a month, I said screw this, cancelled and installed grayjay and tizentube/tizentube cobalt.
If I’m understanding you, Google got ~ $500 out of you over the course of 4-ish years? Say it ain’t so!
PEOPLE! Install Firefox, Waterfox, any *fox and install ublock origin on your mobile devices RIGHT NOW!! Is there some feature that you can’t use in a mobile browser that these apps do and I’m just too old to understand?
To me it was worth the 10-12$ a month for the ease of access and not needing to find alternative frontends for youtube, especially with smart tv’s. It’s just the company started getting too greedy for their own good and I felt it wasn’t worth the value it was providing, which was ultimately why I cancelled. When it hit 13 a month I looked into student discounts and found it it, but then when it moved to almost 12 again with student discount I thought “man this isn’t going to get cheaper” and just cancelled like I mentioned.
Any reason I should go for grayjay instead of Morphe? In context of youtube since I don’t use any other video streaming platform that Grayjay offers.
I have never used morphe so I couldn’t tell you, but I like how grayjay let’s me make playlists and download offline across multiple platforms while still allowing sign in, plus, I know a lot of people won’t like this, but I do like the ability that it still allows to give me personalized results, which is something that I noticed the other YouTube front ends don’t do without workarounds. it also gives me those personalized results across all platforms.
Does this also include YouTube music subscriptions?
As much as I hate this, yt premium is probably one of my most used services of anything streaming. I suck at lot of bytes down from them so I guess at least I might be getting what I pay for?
getting what I pay for
GOOG and all its affiliated advertisers – essentially, every corporation on this planet – now knows not only all your browsing and watching habits, but also that you are a likely good return on investment for more mining, more fine-grained targeting, more scrutiny.
Sure but it’s the opportunism and greed that grates. They pay literally zero for the overwhelming majority of their content, and very little for the rest.
If you Writer-Produce-Star in a TV show that gets 2 million viewers on NBC or ABC, you’re well into the five figures per episode in individual take-home pay, maybe even six. YouTube on the other hand you might just about hit $10,000 for 2M views depending on niche, but they cover zero of your expenses. If you’ve got more than one person working on making that show, or you had any expenses attached to it, you’re pretty much screwed.
Google could VERY easily keep turning a profit on the old price, but shareholders demand infinite unending growth.
The trick is to use family plan. I and bunch of friends made one, each pays around 4€.
EDIT: Just make sure you actually live in the same city.
This is my setup, and we are spread across 4 houses in 2 states. Never been an issue.
Nor will it, to be honest. I don’t see Google shooting themselves in the foot like that.
Netflix did something similar with the password crackdown a few years ago and while it worked out in their favor, I don’t foresee YouTube having the same results. YouTube isn’t really providing much of a service aside from removing ads, so chances are if they crack down on that, it’s not going to equate to people in other households buying a membership to continue it. It’s just going to be less income/revenue. YouTube would need to bet on at least two of the people running family plans are going to convert over to a YouTube premium account. Which I don’t think is a safe bet for the prime canadates that went out of their way to set up the family plan, because if they were going to do that they would have done it in the first plac
For sure. I’ve already contemplated switching to a different streaming service for music, but while I have YT premium I’ll keep using YT music, although they keep making that interface worse and worse. My YT consumption will just plummet to only a couple of channels, and I’ll just work through my backlog of the terabytes of media I have on my Plex server. Hell, might even go outside and see what that’s all about, but I don’t want to rush into anything.
I attempted this because it is a good deal, but unfortunately the rest of my household didn’t care that they got ads, and my mom was too much of a penny-pincher to get anyone in her household to want to do it.
Dang, I keep forgetting that suckers still pay for this…
Holy shit $16 / mo?? Did I see that right?? Wow. Just last year my partner and I really considered getting premium cuz we have some YouTubers we’ve been watching for like a decade. But ultimately decided against it cuz it was like $8.99 / mo.
That sub is already alotted to Netflix, for the ads version too.
