all the people in the reddit keep repeating, pay for prenium to avoid ads went quiet now.
Keep paying guys, someones gotta do it. Thank you for your service. Keeps YouTube available for the rest of us who will never, ever pay a greedy, evil fucking company like Google.
One day there will be only 10 people left paying 1million dollar a month
Just gonna drop this off here:
Dang, I keep forgetting that suckers still pay for this…
I used to pay for this. Started a long time ago, when YouTube’s content was… well, better. But now they’re pushing EVERYTHING towards “Shorts” and it’s pure garbage. Not only does it NOT curate for the people watching it, like how many times do I have to say “not intereste”, “don’t show me this channel anymore,” or just fucking report channels for their “algorithm” to get a clue. AI being spammed left and right, and they claim they can’t do shit about it, meanwhile, you whistle 3 seconds of a Nintendo song and your channel already has a strike against it.
The amount of content farms that’s just pulling crap from reddit, putting dumb pointless videos behind it, while AI reads a made-up story. The amount of content where it’s just some fucker who’s just staring at the screen like a creepy fucker, meanwhile something from the MCU plays in the background… they’re adding nothing. Or the pre-recorded “masked” heads (like Spider-Man, Iron Man, etc.) randomly gesturing at… fuck all.
People used to make things. YouTube had content. Not saying it was all great. Since TikTok got big, I feel like YT chasing after them things started to go downhill. And then “AI” comes out and the quality just fucking tanks.
I don’t pay for YT Premium anymore. PiHole + AdBlock is used everywhere now. And if a YouTuber promotes anything, literally, fuck that product/company as well. Fucking scorch earth on all those fucking advertisers and the algorithm.
I sometimes feel bad for bypassing all this, then I see the in video sponsors they all have. So now I run Sponsorblock…
tbf, their sponsors don’t know they’re being skipped.
And they don’t pay for you skipping them, which is a win for advertisers, but a loss for Google.
I assume smeeg was talking about inline sponsors not associated with google who don’t get metrics if what you saw/skipped
It will never be enough. Line must go up.
Well i still pay for it for two reasons- no ads and music. I use YouTube music as the music service since it has more artista from my country as for example spotify. And ads free since I and my family love watching each specific videos and are subscribed to different creators. I could switch to Spotify for music but then getting all devices, mostly our tv with chrome cast a solid app that somehow blocks ads without any issues… I would do that. And what about the iOS devices? I don’t want alternative stores on my iOS infected devices just to get an alternative app running. Then again, I don’t want to have pihole being my single point of failure on the complete home network. But the pi hole thing is completely different story (and out if scope).
Smarttubenext on nvidia shield
Revanced youtube on android phones
Ublockorigin on browsers
No more ads.
and ProTube on IOS devices
I’ve never had revanced last more than a week. Bad luck i suspect. Newpipe->greyjay->brave
Three seperate active dev teams fighting off the bastards.
I don’t want to use brave, but it’s never been down for me, so it’s weapon of last resort.
I am a bit worried that, with Google’s upcoming changes, they’ll be a walled garden within a year.
I Just run YouTube via my browser with adblock instead of trying to fiddle with an app. And i have another extension so videos doesn’t stop playing when i turn off my screen.
Unwatched for YouTube on Apple devices.
Also grayjay, new pipe on android
vacuum tube for smart TV.
There is so many project to just get rid of YouTube’s ads
Paid for Premium for ten years. Then, moved to a family plan since my brother offered and my wife had moved in with me; it saved me a little money and got her Premium. Then they did the thing they’re all doing where they said “you don’t live in the same house so you’re not a family” and I said, “there’s no way in fucking hell this household is paying $25+ for fucking YouTube, a thing we watch too much of anyway because it’s algorithmically mind-fucking us everyday,” and then we just let it lapse. We’ve got SmarTube on the Android TV for the occasional ad-free video, and it’s clunky enough that we don’t get sucked in, and I’ve got uBlockOrigin on my browser because obviously, and they’ve gone from getting some money out of me to never getting a penny again.
And the fucked up thing is that’s not across the board, for example I’ve been using family premium since it basically came out and my users are located all over the place. Two of which have never even been to my place, and live 4-6 hours away.
It’s shitty, because I wish everyone could have the experience I have had with it.
"YouTube said the hike will “allow us to continue to improve Premium and support the creators and artists you watch on YouTube.”
Bullshit, bullshit and more bullshit. They say that every single time they raise the prices. It’s the same dogshit excuse.
They allegedly give 55% to he creators and pocket the rest… And this is AFTER paying creators fractions of a cent per view and shoving expensive ads down the huge majority of their visitors throats.
They are a massively shitty company. The amount of money they steal from content creators is WILD.
well, doubling the minimum watches to pay people blocking ad blockers harder and halfing the rates at which they’re getting paid does fit the text they gave
Yeah what a fucking joke. The one and only feature they’re selling (especially since they bailed on original content like 2 years after they started) is ad-free viewing. You need a price hike every 18 months to ensure the “don’t show this guy ads” line in my profile config stays set to True? Fuck off.
Honestly, the biggest selling point for me, and pretty much the entire reason I do have premium, is that they pay the creators you watch way more than a regular view. I guess the alternative would be to sign up to their patreons for a dollar.
According to this page:
Creators earn money from these subscriptions through a dedicated pool of revenue for each subscription type: 30% of the net subscription revenue for Premium and 60% for Premium Lite. This allocation factors in the costs of operating and promoting the service, including amounts we pay to music partners. This pool is distributed to creators based on member watch time and views, and from that distribution creators receive revenue share: 55% for long-form videos and 45% for Shorts.
TLDR: YouTube premium pays out to each content creator about A$0.23 per month. Regular ad watching gives A$0.09 per month.
Tap for math
Current price of premium is A$16.99 a month in Australia. 30% of $16.99 totals $5.10 monthly pool distributed across every content creator you watch. 70% or $11.90 of your monthly fee goes straight to YouTube and royalties to maintain their music platform you may or may not use.
The math gets really speculative here, but let’s say you watch 20 different content creators, half of them make long form videos like Reject Convenience, half of them make shorts. You watch an even mix of 10 minute videos and shorts. Each long form content creator will receive ($5.10 • 0.55) / 10 = $0.28. Each shorts creator will receive ($5.10 • 0.45) / 10 = $0.23. Per month. It’s a pittance really.
In comparison, an ad view gives about $0.03 per view, which if you watched 3 videos from each creator, would total $0.09. So premium gives more, but it’s like 14¢ per month more per person.
I can’t be bothered converting all these numbers to USD, sorry. You can roughly calculate it for your own situation using this formula:
C = (P • 0.3 • F) / NWhere
- C is Content Creator Payout (each)
- P is price of YouTube premium for you
- F is form of content. 0.55 for long form, 0.45 for shorts
- N is how many content creators in the same group of F you watch per month
I had been paying for YouTube Premium for about six years because I fell for the trap when I bought my S9 at launch. (in fairness, I do spend an extreme amount of time a year watching YouTube so at the time it did make cost-effective sense) They gave two years of YouTube premium as a benefit of getting it then I never cancelled. I finally canceled about five or six months ago because the price I had been paying originally was close to $10 a month. I had over the years jumped up to almost 18 a month and a little while I had survived ongoing on a student discount. But when the student discount plan jumped to almost $12 a month, I said screw this, cancelled and installed grayjay and tizentube/tizentube cobalt.
If I’m understanding you, Google got ~ $500 out of you over the course of 4-ish years? Say it ain’t so!
PEOPLE! Install Firefox, Waterfox, any *fox and install ublock origin on your mobile devices RIGHT NOW!! Is there some feature that you can’t use in a mobile browser that these apps do and I’m just too old to understand?
Any reason I should go for grayjay instead of Morphe? In context of youtube since I don’t use any other video streaming platform that Grayjay offers.
I have never used morphe so I couldn’t tell you, but I like how grayjay let’s me make playlists and download offline across multiple platforms while still allowing sign in, plus, I know a lot of people won’t like this, but I do like the ability that it still allows to give me personalized results, which is something that I noticed the other YouTube front ends don’t do without workarounds. it also gives me those personalized results across all platforms.
I paid for premium until I started getting ads out of nowhere. YouTube changed their policy to include ads in my previously ad-free package.
I cancelled and started using smartTube f-droid. It has sponsor block integrated. Auto-skips all ads, not just the ones injected by YouTube.
As much as I hate this, yt premium is probably one of my most used services of anything streaming. I suck at lot of bytes down from them so I guess at least I might be getting what I pay for?
getting what I pay for
GOOG and all its affiliated advertisers – essentially, every corporation on this planet – now knows not only all your browsing and watching habits, but also that you are a likely good return on investment for more mining, more fine-grained targeting, more scrutiny.
Sure but it’s the opportunism and greed that grates. They pay literally zero for the overwhelming majority of their content, and very little for the rest.
If you Writer-Produce-Star in a TV show that gets 2 million viewers on NBC or ABC, you’re well into the five figures per episode in individual take-home pay, maybe even six. YouTube on the other hand you might just about hit $10,000 for 2M views depending on niche, but they cover zero of your expenses. If you’ve got more than one person working on making that show, or you had any expenses attached to it, you’re pretty much screwed.
Google could VERY easily keep turning a profit on the old price, but shareholders demand infinite unending growth.
The trick is to use family plan. I and bunch of friends made one, each pays around 4€.
EDIT: Just make sure you actually live in the same city.
I attempted this because it is a good deal, but unfortunately the rest of my household didn’t care that they got ads, and my mom was too much of a penny-pincher to get anyone in her household to want to do it.
This is my setup, and we are spread across 4 houses in 2 states. Never been an issue.
Nor will it, to be honest. I don’t see Google shooting themselves in the foot like that.
Netflix did something similar with the password crackdown a few years ago and while it worked out in their favor, I don’t foresee YouTube having the same results. YouTube isn’t really providing much of a service aside from removing ads, so chances are if they crack down on that, it’s not going to equate to people in other households buying a membership to continue it. It’s just going to be less income/revenue. YouTube would need to bet on at least two of the people running family plans are going to convert over to a YouTube premium account. Which I don’t think is a safe bet for the prime canadates that went out of their way to set up the family plan, because if they were going to do that they would have done it in the first plac
For sure. I’ve already contemplated switching to a different streaming service for music, but while I have YT premium I’ll keep using YT music, although they keep making that interface worse and worse. My YT consumption will just plummet to only a couple of channels, and I’ll just work through my backlog of the terabytes of media I have on my Plex server. Hell, might even go outside and see what that’s all about, but I don’t want to rush into anything.
Re vanced! For the win!
Aren’t we on morphe now?
Beware having dislike button re-enabled. It’ll fuck up playback
Oh good too know. Recently, I uninstalled and reinstalled because it was locking up and saying playback issues.
