He’s not talking about what he believes, he’s a nihilist. He’s saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do. Rolling coal, probably do some nuclear sabre rattling, do some ethnic cleansing sort of thing, you know.
He’s not talking about what he believes, he’s a nihilist
Respectfully disagree based on my personal experience being raised in a church that was very focused on revelations. IMO you’d have to grow up believing it yourself to understand.
He’s saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do.
Yea their logic is circular but I promise you they fucking believe this shit.
Barring specific evidence to the contrary, both Occam & Halon’s razers apply here. It is both a simpler explanation that he believes the scriptures in his religion AND there is no malice required for stupidity to explain what he’s saying.
I’m not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don’t think he’s smart enough to do that and he’s probably 100% serious.
This revelations talk is conditioning them towards violence.
I’m not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don’t think he’s smart enough to do that and he’s probably 100% serious.
And I pointed out that being a Yale Law graduate and was brought into the fold by Peter Thiel himself.
So my point, to refute your original one: JD Vance is a liar who does not believe this crap. Regardless of what others believe. That is the whole of my argument.
Not someone who grew up in one of those churches, but please don’t sleep on the previous person’s comment. Whether or not couch fucker believes what he says, there are more than enough idiots in their inner circle that do believe it (or are at least willing to go with it for the power) for that not to matter. And even side stepping on whether or not the people in the inner circle believe it, a fuck ton of stupid americans in bumblefuck USA absolutely do and are more than willing to partake in violence and justify it with religion or end times rhetoric, and will likely support them while they violate every maxim of christianity.
And just to tie in a very large media story, the Nat-Cs believe that the end times will come when the jews finally have their homeland back. So support for Israel can be drummed up in bumblefuck USA by tying this to the bible and making people thing that supporting Israel in their genocide is something akin to a crusade and something that god wants them to do.
And friend, if you don’t think they can control how a large swath of stupid christians think, look into what they thought of abortion back in the 50s and 60s, and how quickly sentiment turned when the right turned abortion into their culture war wedge issue.
Absolutely. I think his personal beliefs are not the dangerous part here. Its the beliefs of his cristo-fascist followers he’s tapping into that worry me.
You are 100% correct these people mean what they say.
They will smile at you as they say it and act friendly. But don’t think they won’t sacrifice or enslave you and anyone else who isn’t “them” if they could get away with it and increase their power.
Upvoted but you really should take them at face value on the revelations talk. They’re not fucking joking.
He’s not talking about what he believes, he’s a nihilist. He’s saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do. Rolling coal, probably do some nuclear sabre rattling, do some ethnic cleansing sort of thing, you know.
Respectfully disagree based on my personal experience being raised in a church that was very focused on revelations. IMO you’d have to grow up believing it yourself to understand.
Yea their logic is circular but I promise you they fucking believe this shit.
Barring specific evidence to the contrary, both Occam & Halon’s razers apply here. It is both a simpler explanation that he believes the scriptures in his religion AND there is no malice required for stupidity to explain what he’s saying.
I’m not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don’t think he’s smart enough to do that and he’s probably 100% serious.
This revelations talk is conditioning them towards violence.
https://streamable.com/2yj2tj
you weren’t brought up by Peter Thiel, and probably didn’t go to Yale Law (no offense intended, most of us didn’t)
Neither were the thousands to millions of christo-fascists currently being stoked toward violence. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj
JD believing what he’s saying is irrelevant when his audience believes it. He uses coded language that has charged meanings in Christian circles.
EoD smart americans should not assume dumb americans don’t believe that crap. Cuz they do.
Of course, but that wasn’t the point.
The point in question was that JD Vance very likely does not believe this bullshit, irrespective of what his followers believe or do
But what is your point? You’ve contributed nothing to this conversation. I find your comments vapid and annoying.
you said:
And I pointed out that being a Yale Law graduate and was brought into the fold by Peter Thiel himself.
So my point, to refute your original one: JD Vance is a liar who does not believe this crap. Regardless of what others believe. That is the whole of my argument.
The personal attacks are not necessary.
I can respectfully disagree on that, I doubt we disagree on how dangerous he is.
Not someone who grew up in one of those churches, but please don’t sleep on the previous person’s comment. Whether or not couch fucker believes what he says, there are more than enough idiots in their inner circle that do believe it (or are at least willing to go with it for the power) for that not to matter. And even side stepping on whether or not the people in the inner circle believe it, a fuck ton of stupid americans in bumblefuck USA absolutely do and are more than willing to partake in violence and justify it with religion or end times rhetoric, and will likely support them while they violate every maxim of christianity.
And just to tie in a very large media story, the Nat-Cs believe that the end times will come when the jews finally have their homeland back. So support for Israel can be drummed up in bumblefuck USA by tying this to the bible and making people thing that supporting Israel in their genocide is something akin to a crusade and something that god wants them to do.
And friend, if you don’t think they can control how a large swath of stupid christians think, look into what they thought of abortion back in the 50s and 60s, and how quickly sentiment turned when the right turned abortion into their culture war wedge issue.
Absolutely. I think his personal beliefs are not the dangerous part here. Its the beliefs of his cristo-fascist followers he’s tapping into that worry me.
You are 100% correct these people mean what they say.
They will smile at you as they say it and act friendly. But don’t think they won’t sacrifice or enslave you and anyone else who isn’t “them” if they could get away with it and increase their power.