cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/76385
Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir on Thursday unveiled a plan for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s Palestinian population, which he and other Israeli ministers refer to as “voluntary migration,” a day after Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said the removal of Palestinians was the only “real solution” for Gaza. Ben Gvir dubbed his […]
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Thing is, you can’t trust anything coming out of Israel currently, even more so than usual (which is saying something). It’s election season and politicians won’t let little things like reality get in the way of campaigning.
That’s not to say that what politicians like Ben-Gvir say isn’t important insofar as it can help you understand how they think, but it’s not necessarily connected to anything actually going on.
lemme guess
I still can’t believe an anti war website title it this way. This has clear definition of genocide.
Does he call it the “Final Solution” too?
“Final Solution” is so 20th century. This iteration calls it the “Real Solution”.
It’s so ironic that the former victim is now the current perpetrator, the current executioner.
Jews are not a monolith , i reject the framing . The zionist leaders was never persecuted by the nazis. They was not victims of anybody just oppressors.
The Nazis (the original German ones) had a similar plan to move the Jews to Madagascar. Often it starts with plans for relocation only, but then that proves to not be feasible, it gets dark fast.
They then started “evacuating” them to the east: Poland. There they had a military government outside of civilian oversight. Started with the ghettos, then work camps, then extermination camps. Evacuation became code for killing over time.
ruining madagascar , by forcing another group of people there, where they already people living there for centuries.
Hmm where have we heard this one before
Its already pretty dark and just getting worse…
So is isreali now the bad guys? I mean I though they were the pillar that represented all that was good of mankind. So now they are Nazi 2.0? …and Germany are the good guys…what a crazy timeline we live in. I’m so confused.
The Israelis have never been the good guys.
So is isreali now the bad guys
Have been since 1947
and Germany are the good guys
Nope. Germany has the second-most zionist government outside of Israel, surpassed only by the US
guys…what a crazy timeline we live in.
On that you’re ABSOLUTELY right, though 😮💨
USA most zio, Israel second
This guy is scum of the earth and one of the reasons a lot of people dislike (or hate) orthodox jews.
Not electing the lady who was lukewarm on Palestine sure seems to have helped them!
At least we get a riviera and a trump hotel!
She was lukewarm on Palestine? She literally agreed with trump fake peace plan
What color did she propose the Harris Hotel to be?
The color of blood red. The only difference between Harris and Trump is that trump want to profit from genocide while Harris wanted israel to do whatever it want in Gaza
So she didn’t want a hotel? How is it red then?
Her and biden blamed hamas for the lack of cease fire when israel was the issue, hmas literally offered to return the hostages from the first day. They didn’t use their power to stop israel
They didn’t. Which doesn’t mean they were as bad as riviera donny.
Is there a big difference between letting Israel destroy Gaza to build things for future colonizers and colonies, versus letting them destroy Gaza and then having Americans build a Riviera in it?
Reductive idiocy.
Consequences. Predicted consequences, in fact.
Hey buddy, maybe take your internal US politics to a US politics comm. Not every topic is an opportunity to take jabs at other Americans about your last election.
Not an American. But this is direct consequence of the last election.
It is not. It is consequence of the USA unconditional support for israel for decades
It ery much is. There are levels of support. We told you so. And here we are.
Kamala, biden, obama,trump promised unconditional support for israel but here we are seeing people profiting from the palestinian suffering to score pitiful political points
There’s support for Israel (the unconditional part you made up) and there’s transforming Gaza into a riviera to build a hotel. Neither is good, but there’s levels of bad.
Unconditional support means allowing israel to finish the genocide . Which Harris and Biden did nothing to stop
“Only real solution” and one that might be final? Itd be hard to be more explicit if they tried
“Real solution” performed better in the focus group than “final solution.”
Are we allowed to call it a genocide in the news now?
Is this a serious news source?
thanks!
The party promises emigrants an “absorption package” including “assistance with travel, initial housing, vocational training, employment and support for up to 24 months,” as well as payments to host countries based on the number of Gazans they take in. Turkey, Ethiopia, the Congo and unspecified Arab countries are being considered as potential destinations, according to the party.
Sounds like this could work for a significant number of people:
JERUSALEM, May 6 (Reuters) - Almost half of Gazans may be willing to apply to Israel to help them leave to other countries, according to a survey on Tuesday that also showed significant support for anti-Hamas protests.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/almost-half-gazans-willing-leave-survey-finds-2025-05-06/
And the other half?
Mulch.
The IDF could have deleted Gaza 7 times over by now, calm down
They destroyed almost all the agricultural fields to create a famine to try to force palestinians out from gaza
Jump off a bridge, dude.
Since Spain and Ireland seem to be the most enthusiastic they can move them all there! Its what 500,000 each? that’s nothing! lots of engineers and doctors for them! I’m sure the Irish and Spanish will welcome them with open arms :)
In exchange for all the far right people from Spain and Ireland? If that’s the case, where do I have to sign?
What did they say? They deleted it.
It’s kinda ironic, actually. The antiwar page appears to be some weird right and left wing libertarian mix, but it got shared on a tankie instance, and then crossposted to here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiwar.com
Ben Gvirs idea is still insane, tho…
Ben Gvirs idea is still insane, tho…
Yeah I just feel like after 9/11 America invaded Afghanistan and Iraq with popular support:
Even before his speech, Americans were inclined to believe the worst about Hussein’s regime. In a survey conducted a few weeks prior to the State of the Union, 73% favored military action in Iraq to end Hussein’s rule; just 16% were opposed. More than half (56%) said the U.S. should take action against Iraq “even if it meant U.S. forces might suffer thousands of casualties.”
And remember at the time
On 15 February 2003, a coordinated day of protests was held across the world in which people in more than 600 cities expressed opposition to the imminent Iraq War. It was part of a series of protests and political events that had begun in 2002 and continued as the invasion, war, and occupation took place. The day was described by social movement researchers as “the largest protest event in human history”.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_Iraq_War_protests
And Iraq and Afghanistan had the shit kicked out of them anyway with Dick Cheney acting as a Ben Gvirs type character
Nothing galvanises support for military action quite like a nation that has been attacked, and Oct 7th was the perfect in its genocidal massacres of kids dancing at a music festival:
Shortly after the October 7 attacks, there was broad support in Israeli society for military operations in Gaza.[690][691] A public opinion poll conducted in December 2023 by the Israel Democracy Institute found that 87% of Jewish Israelis supported the war in Gaza.[692]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war
I just don’t know if the gamble Hamas took with Palestinian lives has paid off in a way they hoped it would (and who knows maybe in 20 years time after spending 10 trillion zillion dollars Israel will pull out of Gaza as well)
Sounds antisemitic
The most anti-semetic thing one can say is that Jews are something related to the new Nazis running Israel.
Genocidal intent at the ballot box.
Bullshit pro-Russian source. That doesn’t mean they’re automatically lying, just providing some context here.
Example: https://original.antiwar.com/ted_snider/2024/09/30/ukraine-should-rush-back-to-istanbul/
The irony is that israel and russia has good relation
“voluntary migration” just like robbery victims voluntary give their wallets to the robber.
you either give your wallet (land) or we take your life
