Okay, while I agree, killing someone is a heavy thing, why do we always beat down the folks on our side willing to do it?
I mean, you are right. Being in a situation where someone wants to kill you makes you shake rattle and roll to find any way out…that’s just not always an option.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t find a way to fix things without violence, but that’s not always the case. The only place where you can end ever conflict with no violence is in make believe land.
I constantly see folks like you saying “y’all are so dumb wanting to fight back against them, you’ll never kill any of em. Etc etc.”
At this point all you are doing is demoralizing the folks on our side who will pick up a gun and fight back.
I mean when some back woods red neck is at your door with a shotty are you gonna talk?
Do you think they will listen?
They know what they are doing is wrong. They know you are human. They hear your logic and reasoning. They do not care. They want you dead.
Have your acts of philosophy and your bleeding speeches about how violence is never the answer. Have your moments to tell us that we must rise above the animalistic impulse to take and destroy.
But stop beating down the folks who would and are willing to take up the mantle of warrior to defend us against such humans that would seek to destroy everything we are.
I AM the redneck with the shotgun, but I promise never to show up to another liberal’s back door with it. I’ll be defending my family against the guy showing up at my door.
Why do we always give shit to the people who will be murderers? Uh . . Hm. I don’t know I guess. Maybe because they’re full of it? Maybe because their willingness to murder isn’t a particularly ennobling characteristic?
The only place where you can end ever conflict with no violence is in make believe land.
That’s not true. History provides examples. Do they all last forever? Also no - because time.
I mean when some back woods red neck is at your door with a shotty are you gonna talk? Do you think they will listen?
That’s an entirely different scenario. A drunk MAGAt stepping in my area threateningly will have his ground standed on. But that’s not what our proud lefty chest-beaters are on about here. They wanna Charlie Kirk Ted Cruz. And bully for them, just realize they’re not gonna do it. It’s fine to feel that way but when it becomes ‘legitimate political operations are fools to not murder MAGAts’ they’re shitting in the soup. It becomes another problem we have to deal with to get anywhere.
I agree. Killing someone is murder not matter the circumstances. But I am aware enough to know that not all murder is murder. Would you say the person who kills another person harming their family a murderer? By all definition they are, but would we hound them as evil or bad or crazy? Or would we say “they did what they did to defend their family.”
But also I keep seeing this denial of what MAGA can do.
There is no greater danger than to underestimate your opponents.
If I was to step back and look at it, MAGA has proven again and again that they are capable and willing. To be even more honest, they are whooping our asses right now.
What I’m saying is, when the chips are laid down and the dust is settled and you are face to face with hateful human who doesn’t care about your logic or beliefs, and is willing to mow you down to get what they want…do you really wanna push everyone who is willing to cross that line away?
I’d much rather have a person willing to pick up a spear and fight along side me than someone to quote to me why I’m wrong for wanting to fight.
I won’t down vote you or anything. Your beliefs are yours. I know we both probably agree, we should strive for better as a species. But for me, I don’t believe we can get to a better world unless we are willing to put our selves on the line for it.
(I’ll try to reread your comment more, but right now I am spending time with my kid)
But I am aware enough to know that not all murder is murder.
I know what you mean, but y’know. Whoever it is still has to live with it; which I am reliably informed is “a bitch” for anyone not already a sociopath.
It’s not that fighting is wrong, per se, it’s that killing someone should always be the last resort whenever possible. At least that’s how I see it. I might not if I wasn’t me.
Okay, while I agree, killing someone is a heavy thing, why do we always beat down the folks on our side willing to do it?
I mean, you are right. Being in a situation where someone wants to kill you makes you shake rattle and roll to find any way out…that’s just not always an option.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t find a way to fix things without violence, but that’s not always the case. The only place where you can end ever conflict with no violence is in make believe land.
I constantly see folks like you saying “y’all are so dumb wanting to fight back against them, you’ll never kill any of em. Etc etc.”
At this point all you are doing is demoralizing the folks on our side who will pick up a gun and fight back.
I mean when some back woods red neck is at your door with a shotty are you gonna talk? Do you think they will listen?
They know what they are doing is wrong. They know you are human. They hear your logic and reasoning. They do not care. They want you dead.
Have your acts of philosophy and your bleeding speeches about how violence is never the answer. Have your moments to tell us that we must rise above the animalistic impulse to take and destroy.
But stop beating down the folks who would and are willing to take up the mantle of warrior to defend us against such humans that would seek to destroy everything we are.
I AM the redneck with the shotgun, but I promise never to show up to another liberal’s back door with it. I’ll be defending my family against the guy showing up at my door.
As a fellow GA redneck, it was not to shame you. I understand.
Sucks to be a redneck sometimes cause everyone thinks you are one thing but you aren’t. Stay strong my friend.
Why do we always give shit to the people who will be murderers? Uh . . Hm. I don’t know I guess. Maybe because they’re full of it? Maybe because their willingness to murder isn’t a particularly ennobling characteristic?
That’s not true. History provides examples. Do they all last forever? Also no - because time.
That’s an entirely different scenario. A drunk MAGAt stepping in my area threateningly will have his ground standed on. But that’s not what our proud lefty chest-beaters are on about here. They wanna Charlie Kirk Ted Cruz. And bully for them, just realize they’re not gonna do it. It’s fine to feel that way but when it becomes ‘legitimate political operations are fools to not murder MAGAts’ they’re shitting in the soup. It becomes another problem we have to deal with to get anywhere.
I agree. Killing someone is murder not matter the circumstances. But I am aware enough to know that not all murder is murder. Would you say the person who kills another person harming their family a murderer? By all definition they are, but would we hound them as evil or bad or crazy? Or would we say “they did what they did to defend their family.”
But also I keep seeing this denial of what MAGA can do.
There is no greater danger than to underestimate your opponents.
If I was to step back and look at it, MAGA has proven again and again that they are capable and willing. To be even more honest, they are whooping our asses right now.
What I’m saying is, when the chips are laid down and the dust is settled and you are face to face with hateful human who doesn’t care about your logic or beliefs, and is willing to mow you down to get what they want…do you really wanna push everyone who is willing to cross that line away?
I’d much rather have a person willing to pick up a spear and fight along side me than someone to quote to me why I’m wrong for wanting to fight.
I won’t down vote you or anything. Your beliefs are yours. I know we both probably agree, we should strive for better as a species. But for me, I don’t believe we can get to a better world unless we are willing to put our selves on the line for it.
(I’ll try to reread your comment more, but right now I am spending time with my kid)
I know what you mean, but y’know. Whoever it is still has to live with it; which I am reliably informed is “a bitch” for anyone not already a sociopath.
It’s not that fighting is wrong, per se, it’s that killing someone should always be the last resort whenever possible. At least that’s how I see it. I might not if I wasn’t me.