• DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 hours ago

    I’m a gun owning liberal… mostly because of Westworld 🤓 It’s just to much of a pain to shoot living in a city… but FFS, can we really fight off the U.S. Army? Or republicans who collect firearms and bullets like baseball cards 😕

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      3 hours ago

      republicans who collect firearms and bullets like baseball cards

      Doesn’t matter how many guns you have, you still only have 2 hands.

    • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      Not everyone in the military is ready to be Trump’s storm troopers. Civil wars do not work that way. There will be sides and infighting all over the place and many people would die unfortunately. Read about our first Civl War if the subject interests you.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      6 hours ago

      If it comes down to Civil War, the military will be wildly fractured, and regional. Most of your daily danger will come from gangs of local marauders who will fancy themselves as militias. Those people can be handled with a bit of smarts and intelligence.

      Remember, MAGA always thinks they will win in one big punch. They never have a plan for the next steps, responses, consequences, etc., they never have a Plan B, and they ALWAYS think their opponent is Stupid, and will never anticipate their grade school playground plan. Use their virtuosic incompetence against them.

      • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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        5 hours ago

        I agree with you, but… ICE now has more officers than the FBI and a budget larger than the Marines. I guarantee they aren’t hiring for intelligence…

        If shit really hit the fan I’m sure the Republicans will bring in foreign powers such as Israel to back them up militarily.

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          4 hours ago

          ICE is mostly filled with incompetent dipshits who’ve never seen any actual combat. You think those chuds would be that effective??

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          5 hours ago

          Yes.

          But my guess would be that almost every country, especially the US, is far to big to be governed by force. Spreading supply lines across a potentially hostile area of that size would be a nearly impossible task on its own… protecting all the industrial assets and natural ressources would be another.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      An armed populace isn’t about fighting the military in some grand battle. It’s about making every random person a potential threat. When every citizen has a chance of being armed, leaders should lead in a way that doesn’t piss off too many of them.

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        4 hours ago

        It’s called insurgency. A good example of what would have is what happened in Iraq. Iraq is a very high gun ownership rate country and what happened after the 2003 invasion is what would happen in the USA if a civil war happened here. I apologize for using the word ‘happen’ too much lol.

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          3 hours ago

          Yes, but it’s more than that. The idea of an armed populace is supposed to be that the threat posed by the armed citizens precents the need for insurgencies in the first place. But in the US it isn’t working because Democratic voters disarmed themselves while Republican voters armed themselves to the teeth.

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            2 hours ago

            The mass surveillance and tracking that is currently being implemented are to neutralize the threat of an armed populace; it’s to protect the rich ruling class.

    • BillCheddar@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      The guns aren’t about fighting off the US Army.

      The guns are about fighting back against 12 rednecks long enough for the state cops/whoever to get there and save the day.