Sounds like they want people board and mad, a historically winning combination.
Hungry soon too
Aggressively stupid bullshit, fuck these clowns.
Well, time to protest, and if need be, use the constitution how it was intended.
Or … time to set my VPN to Canada.
…where are you from?
Wrong question these days.
Well, based on what he said, he’s wrong.
Unless he’s not from the usa. So before I pointed out the flaw in his plan, I want to make sure I’M not wrong.
I forgot…
A/S/L?
I think the intent of the law is that it wouldn’t mater. If the VPN blocks the site, you can’t get to the site.
You VPN into Canada and then sign onto another VPN from there? Would that work?
Why would a Canadian VPN server obey US block lists?
It wouldn’t, which is why I roll my eyes every time I see a bill demanding what a VPN must do.
The only way for them to actually enforce this through VPNs is to block VPNs. Which, presumably, they’ll do at some point, but with an exception list for companies paying the right license fee to use a Government Approved VPN.
Which, obviously, will be full of security flaws, and likely won’t be HIPPA compliant or other compliances etc, etc.
So, basically there’s the internet, then there’s the US internet. People will start moving to China for more freedoms.
Did you forget about the Great Firewall?
Not that even it can defeat VPNs anyway.
There are ways to obfuscate VPN traffic that’s resistant to DPI. It makes it look like normal HTTPS traffic. That will make completely blocking VPNs difficult. I’m sure even more effective obfuscation methods will be developed if VPN blocking becomes widespread.
Thats a good point.
Regardless, technology is too advanced for the lawmakers anyway.
Might as well just start enforcing amish policy adoption laws.
HTTPS will be banned, unless you install the government CA certs that let them decrypt your traffic.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/you-should-not-trust-russias-new-trusted-root-ca
I don’t know if you’re familiar with how VPNs work, but it’s basically like a computer in the other country is sharing its internet connection with you.
So let’s imagine that things are reversed, and you’re a VPN provider in the United States and you’re sharing your internet connection with some computers in another country, like Saudi Arabia, for example.
And just to be clear, you conduct no business in Saudi Arabia. You’re just sharing your internet connection with people from there. You don’t have any associates in Saudi Arabia, and you have no intention of ever going to Saudi Arabia.
And let’s say that Saudi Arabia passed a law that said VPN providers had to block some kind of content, like maybe banning all access to content about your favorite band.
How is this going to affect the VPN service you provide to the other computers?
The corrupt Empire of America at it again.
I think they are copying what France and Germany are trying to do and make it worse.
Great, more boomers who can’t understand how the internet works.
It’s a series of tubes.
I mean, kind of, but also absolutely not
This doesn’t stem from a lack of understanding. It’s about corporations and control.
We need to stop believing the boomer’s framing that they’re all old and dumb, and start realizing that they’d eat us if we tasted good
Given all the cute sentient animals human gleefully consume, your words ring true.
Those cute sentient animals would eat us too if they were sapient. And we tasted good.
The difference is we pretend to be better than then, we know better and can usually do something about it.
Each half of that sentence is diametrically opposed to the other.
The thing that would make us better isn’t knowing; it’s doing. It makes sense to say that someone who knows better but behaves no better is literally no better.
Rationality is sensitivity and responsiveness to reasons, and plenty of folks are unresponsive to normative facts.
At least 70% of humans are just dangerously intelligent animals. Like imagine a polar bear that can drive and trade stocks. That’s the average person.
I’m doing my part by only eating animals that are assholes
Can’t have those small-time AI startups gathering training data like the big boys do.
No, we’re at the point where the people pushing these laws do understand how the Internet works, and they want to control all of it.
I think i2p may see a big uptick in usage then.
Choose your DNS provider wisely
NextDNS is good and I just realised that it’s based in The US. The alternative ones don’t seem to provide the feature of granular filtering.
I use pihole+unbound right now and hoping that is unaffected
i think you have to set up DoH with unbound to make it not be in cleartext? I dunno honestly I’m a dummy, but I’m fairly sure that it’s pretty tricky to get it totally secured. I guess I don’t understand why you can’t use ubound recursively but have its root.hints pointing as something like quad9 instead of all the actual root authoritative dns servers, theres like 13 of them and more than half are the US government.
And ensure your VPN provider isn’t headquartered in the US (or better yet any five eyes nation) nor one of the ones owned by the Israeli Billionaire Teddy Sagi who likely also has deep ties to the Israeli and US governments
TIL expressVPN started as
Crossrider started off by making a SDK for the deployment of browser extensions platforms with support for monetizing extensions. The monetization options were used by major [ad injectors which used man-in-the-browser to change or add advertisements to what users saw.
JFC.
Godamnit, I didn’t realize PIA was bought out by them. Time to switch.
Good lists of vpn providers would be appreciated.
Njalla. Run by Peter Sunde.
Proton, mullvad, air VPN, depending on threat case. NordVPN for torrenting specifically, but not as good for privacy etc.
The most important thing is to check who owns the VPN (as the previous commentor said, stay away from Kape tech) and where it’s based (e.g., 14 eyes), as well as independent security audits and the company’s public history with government requests.
Mullvad is zero log and located in Sweden, and accepts payment in crypto to reduce traceable privacy footprint (which frankly is one of the real, relevant use-cases for crypto to further legitimate privacy needs).
Yeah but one of the guys that owns it is the primary funder of that nutty far right political group.
Also take cash over mail
Proton has been good for me. CEO seems like a dick but I’m gonna be honest it’s getting pretty hard to support any tech company that doesn’t have a dick CEO.
AirVPN has been great so far. Moved to it from Mullvad.
I’ve been happy with IVPN since mullvad CEO donated a bunch of money to far right parties
I had trouble with IVPN. They didn’t have many countries/servers, and ended up being blocked.
Currently on ProtonVPN, and seems to be OK so far.
I recently switched to windscribe.
They’re a good, solid wireguard provider.
If piracy was a problem I can find them multiple international corporations that are well know for using copyrighted content to train their LLM without paying for it or having permission from the owner of that content.
This is a special kind of irony: someone is lambasting one group for piracy while simultaneously advocating for another group to do essentially the same thing for their own benefit.
They’re not really prosecuting people for piracy, so why would they go after large corporations?
I’m not supporting the idea of pirating data for LLM training. I’m just saying: don’t be a hypocrite simply because a group of people you dislike is doing the same thing you’re doing, for the same reasons.
They’re not really prosecuting people for piracy, so why would they go after large corporations?
One group is poor individuals and the other is a billion/trillion dollar industry that’s basically gloating about pirating at an industrial scale.
Going after individuals for downloading a 4Gb rip of a movie doesn’t make any financial sense but it makes a lot more sense going after companies downloadinh millions of gigabytes and have more than enough money to pay damages
So it’s strange to continue attacking individuals while covering your eyes at the big companies
I’m not attacking anyone, and I’m not covering my eyes to anything.
You basically just proved my point: going after every individual or corporation that pirates isn’t really feasible.
I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy in the stance itself. It doesn’t matter who’s doing the pirating; the underlying justification is the same. If it’s acceptable for an individual to pirate something because the company no longer sells it, then you can’t suddenly declare that same reasoning unacceptable when a corporation does it for essentially the same reason.
You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. Either you apply the same standards of criticism and ridicule to individuals and corporations, or your argument doesn’t hold water.
You’re either okay with piracy as a principle, or you’re not. You don’t get to create one standard for individuals and another for corporations simply because you prefer one of them.
Either you apply the same standards of criticism and ridicule to individuals and corporations, or your argument doesn’t hold water.
That’s exactly what I’m doing though. Imagine standing there with a bullhorn shouting that you just downloaded every available movie, show, research paper, news article, etc and you’re now profiting significantly off of it, as an individual. You’d get sued into oblivion if you weren’t sent to prison first.
I still think pirating is okay and that the US twisting the world’s arm to enforce the DMCA is fucking BS but if we have to suffer with it then the billion dollar companies should have to too
They’re all in bed together.
Darrell Issa out of California appears to have proposed this, I assume because he is not seeking re-election.
Who wants to take a bet he is getting paid for it?
He is getting paid. Not only has the Motion Picture Association contributed to political campaigns but it very recently gave awards and money to two politicians that promote their interests
For specifics on donations see: https://myreptracker.com/campaign-finance/committees/C00139519/motion-picture-association-inc-political-action-committee-mpaamerica-pac
In 2025, the MPA gave Chris Coons its Industry Champion Award and also honored Darrell Issa. MPA CEO Charles Rivkin described Coons as a “trusted partner” and praised Issa as a “true partner” on matters important to film and television.
It’s very basic corruption in broad daylight, and it’s pretty common in US politics today. As far as I know, you can’t prove corruption in court without some form of wiretapping or paper trail, which is trivial for them to avoid. So they’ll never get in trouble for being absolute utter dog shit human beings.
Meh… I don’t pirate anthing, so… non-issue from where I stand. Though I can see how this would upset a lot of people.
But you do use the dns system, right?
Speaking out against the regime is now a form of piracy and banned.
See the problem? It’s abusable.
The regime doesn’t need this buffoonery to ban freedom of speech. They’re already trying that shit regardless of piracy.
So you are okay give giving your enemy another weapon to fire at you?
What other weapon? I already said I don’t pirate anything. This is a harmless weapon to use against me.
You’re signed up here, on Lemmy, through PieFed.ca, right?
So it WILL affect you as soon as they add it to the piracy list.
I feel like you are so dumb you would drown in the rain by staring up at the sky I literally just gave an example that would affect you.
That you resort to ad hominem when people disagree with you shows you aren’t mature enough to discuss this in any meaningful way.
Also- it shows that I won’t be missing anthing when I block your immature ass.
No.
Wait.
Come back….
Great, no concern to anyone then because it doesn’t affect you personally. Why did you even reply?
Ban the RIAA and MPAA.
My ISP wondering why I only ever access 5 servers in Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and Finland
“Freedom” LMAO
Free as in beer. (The citizens are the product)
All new media (other than documentaries) are meaningless. AI slop, propaganda, white washing or ego porn.
It really is. The same open world games, the same sitcoms and movies, the same soulless music. None of it has any soul anymore, it’s not even actual expression or art…
Mainstream media? Sure. Leave the mainstream world and connect with indies of every kind of art. You’ll discover a whole new world.
If you think documentaries can’t be propaganda, I have an excellent bridge for sale
