The magas keep betraying, it’s their thing, and even Bush said don’t get fooled so many times. I really want putin to leave and stay in existing lands, has plenty so stop killing all these people and all the suffering. Stop the dictator bs and could have had a much better economy and quality of life for people there if he did the right things, followed the Nordic models. Estonia and others have advanced with their freedom from the unhealthy controlling ways and putin could have done all that too, but no, doubled down on toxic systems and scapegoat minorities. Same horrible policies always bring horrible results for the majority, but the wealthy benefit. The wealthy and powerful protect their benefits and privileges at the expense of the many as we can see over and over in history.
It is not starlink that is being taken out by Iran, and messing up America’s ability to launch projectiles at Iran, it’s old radar infrastructure. And the only thing being used effectively, until a bot farm and oil has been targeted by ukr, was self-isolated fiber-optics/close loop drones. If you want to be entertained, then by all means don’t look at the mockingbird project or how Elon is being a good little front man for the prevention of socialized, especially green, infrastructure and shielding the actual powerful oligarchs from retaliation.
People literally just watching nepos and actors everywhere get pushed into “mattering” but can’t seem to apply KNOWN tactics to our current reality.
Betrayed now? Not after they openly mocked you for not wearing a suit?
HE ate shit and humiliated himself in front of the whole world on the off chance he could still get some benefit from Ukraine. This means he’s given up on them.
People died because of this. Why would mocking his clothing even be a blip in comparison?
Because they were withholding approved military funding solely because he didn’t wear a suit…and all in attendance were mocking him because of it.
They were withholding funding because they are Russian compromised fascists who support Hitlerian invasions of neighboring countries. The complaint about his attire was just the lie of the day.
Politics
Exactly. This is a point he can push a lot harder as it’s a solid example of how the US cannot be trusted as an ally.
he… was
Which is why he can say it now instead of having to suck it up and smile for the cameras
People forget to question the validity of the entire story. This to me is a song and dance. Privatization of militaries has been the course and IMO this is just a PR hegemonic, brand dropping, advertisement to get people, more specifically europeans to invest in their own oppression. Dish satellite for cable and internet worked just fine for rural people, but now people are being pushed into a monopoly, and into white supremacy. When white men have “feels” about not getting what they think they are due, that’s no-brainer, propaganda 100% of the time. Slow down and zoom out. FFS. And stop using Mr. Salutes products. And those who aren’t question the validity of the Gaurdian, haven’t been paying attention to the title slop coverage of Gaza. Know they enemy, and know what can and can’t be trusted, before you give it. Respect and trust must be EARNED.
People should question the news they read more. Everything you said after that is unintelligible
You’re jumping from topic to topic far too quickly, using odd descriptors for things. Really comes off as someone slipping into mental illness
Volodymyr Zelensky should take a history book and read about how the US treats its allies once they are no longer useful.
Actually, the US has always supported the Ukrainian quest for independence. Don’t listen to the naysayers. They simply don’t understand the deep bound that exists between our two nations.
Support them for 46 years until their enemy collapses? That’s West Europe.
once they are no longer useful.
Europe served as a useful buffer against the Warsaw Pact and later the various West Asian countries. But maybe that is ending now, and the European countries have started becoming ‘no longer useful’.
Elon had already disabled Starling access to them once, back at the start of the war when Biden was still president. I don’t understand why Ukraine hasn’t divested of SpaceX at this point. Hopefully they have diversified their sources of intel and comms, at least. Europe is starting to develop some nice alternatives like ICEYE, and have given multiple pledges? suggestions? to utilize it in support of Ukraine, I thought.
Why is this bs propagated? US mandated starlink to disable access in russian territory. That’s exactly what was done, so when Zelensky’s starlink controlled drones crossed into russian territory, starlink lost connectivity. Exactly as asked.
As Elon himself said in his recent tweeting, the USG controls Starshield, the military version of Starlink. SpaceX, and sometimes Elon himself, control Starlink.
Whether this occurrence is the USG restricting military comms or SpaceX restricting commercial comms, this is not a coincidence of restrictions on Russia being colocated with Ukraine-Russia battlefields.
Mandated by who? By Elon obviously. The Nazi who was in secret communication with Putin the whole time. Certainly wasn’t a Biden admin “decision.”
who was in secret communication with Putin the whole time
uhhhhh what?
Biden admin of course, who else? They sanctioned russia, which meant no Starlink service was allowed in russian territory. Ukrainian naval drones crossed into russian territory and (foreseeably) lost connectivity.
So you’re just dismissing the Reuters article I sent you? The DoD didn’t know Musk had cut off Ukrainian access to Starlink (there was no Starshield at that time):
Whatever the reason for Musk’s decision, the shutoff over Kherson and other regions surprised some involved with the Ukraine war – from troops on the ground to U.S. military and foreign policy officials, who after Russia’s full-scale invasion that February had worked to secure Starlink service for Ukrainian forces. Panicked calls by Ukrainian officials during the outage to seek information from Pentagon counterparts, five people familiar with the incident said, were met with few explanations for what could have caused it.
Using the word “betrayed” implies he trusted him in the first place, which I strongly doubt.
Zelensky knows how to play the game though
Eh…
I guess Trump got tired of all that winning…
he ran out of winning quotas for this year. poor Donald.
I think Zelensky has done a really good job overall in a really bad situation, but you don’t have to read much news to know both Trump and Musk and terrible people and nor to be trusted.
Be happy it lasted this long when dealing with these two billionaire psychopaths.
it’s not like you can choose leaders of an allied states without making it weird.
He doesn’t have a choice. Besides, Putin is better than Trump imo.
Well, for what its worth - the amount of blood on Trump’s hands is nowhere near Putin’s BY A LOT. That doesn’t make it any better though. both cant go to hell soon enough.
Why the quotes? I’m pretty sure he really feels betrayed
Because it’s literally a quote. It also helps because most readers would scoff at trusting Trump.
I felt this was going to happen eventually, I just didn’t know how soon. It also follows suit with Trump working to create a new world hegemony where he sees himself acquiring Canada and Greenland and letting everything else fall to Russia and China. The only way it can even begin to be real is with a world war where the US deliberately ghosts Europe and NATO, and it has already begun to do that.
Trump’s international policy is so incoherent it is much more productive to compare it with type 2 jam instead of international politics.
You forgot Cuba and Venezuela, and likely more.
Taking some solace that while there’s a lot more than just Trump at work here, he is somehow the key figurehead that when he passes (how long can a fat 80 year old who loves fast food last, even with the best health care?) wil leave the broader movement unraveling.
It won’t unravel, it will just get more extreme from now on. This is not something you just democratically vote yourself away from. The very concept of democracy is almost no longer tenable given how techno oligarchs have perfected within their social networks what Cambridge Analytica started.
I don’t know, but I think we are headed towards the modern analogue of the sort of dark ages that have left empty capitals out of ancient civilizations that had previously been thriving, with AI and robotics being prepped to fill the voids. The value of human society is rapidly becoming less of a necessity for the ultrarich, with lies and deception are part of their core values - half truths and a tailored mix rationale and dehumanization that will sadly shape the future of our timeline by appealing to society’s baser emotions. I dread for our future and bid farewell to the sort of one that seemed possible from the world that once cooperated and averted the ozone hole from becoming a catastrophe.
These are just the necessary consequences of capitalism. Workers never had a choice in the system, we can only ever express our voice through collective action, like how the Civil Rights Movement was fought. This isn’t a new development, it’s a new stage in deterioration of the imperialist stage in capitalism. The solution is socialism, and the method to establish it is revolution. This has been clear for over a century.
Keep bombing the oil Zelenskyy it is time to go green
People aren’t paying close enough attention to the oil oligarchy, and the known, and not puppet/fall guy white supremacists dispite the knowns 1) that modern war is a result of oil control, and 2) that indigenous people were offed for their land rich in oil deposits. To this day evangelical churches are located at oil deposits (see book ‘Annointed with Oil’ (this kind🛢). Oil Tycoons funded churches to get colonizers to live next to the filthy oil wells, and the churches preached the benefits of oil to benefits their expansion. Koch refineries NEVER stopped churning in Russia. And at the very beginning of the Urk/Rus spit: 1) Methane deposits were “discovered” on the coast of Crimea and Hillary spoke about Crimea and Putin in her run for president against Trump and 2) A Koch NGO wrote a letter essentially saying that perhaps the conflict shouldn’t happen, just after it began. Like as if Kochs themsleves had cold feet. And the Kochs are the brain child of ALEC, and a Koch ran for president in the 80’s under the libertarian party and was deeply embarrassed in his efforts. Now put two and two together. Lots of Europe was buying piped in “natural gas” (is literally just methane) from Russia. And then they discover methane closer to home. US helps Zelinski get into office. The 1st thing Russia did was build a engineering feat of a bridge to Crimea. And then the US fuels the fire, then steps back and profits from war (NATO’s weapon supplier of choice) that is now too far along to end. Meanwhile Israel decides to be advantageous and begins their invasion and take over of whatever they can. And Ukr per Zelinski want to be like Israel. And somehow they are using red scare to fuel Russia attack, yet Russia hasn’t been communist for decades. And look up Larry Summers wiki. He was in the White House advising Russia on what oligarchs will get what soviet socialized industries, and was at Harvard (another place that should be met with A LOT of scrutiny) to influence Facebook’s ownership. Of which FB has been sucessfully sued by the Rohindya people for genocide mongering (same playback as Rwanda’s radio station, may I add) and which Kenyans are following in the same suit currently. Then theirs Clinton and Monica, and his midnight call to Benjamin Zion Wattenberg, who wrote the birth Dearth and is one of the most influential and openly modern eugenists of of time because of that book. People need to step back, and realize that the stories your being fed, are just that. You are supposed to be overwhelmed and not look deeper or connect the damn dots. And it works for as long as you and society as a whole wants to be entertained. And don’t even get me started on the “cold war”. 🙄 Who profited/benefitted and what was actually achieved. Those are the only questions you should be asking about anything. Stop being force fed BS, and then in your own ignorance, complimenting the chefs. Our problem as a people is their are too many useable idiots amongst us. ZOOM OUT. Think like an oligarch. He isn’t being entertained. He is using our mass ignorance as his elevator. FFS. If the majority of people can’t tell what’s BS at this point, we’re F’d. Enjoy willfully oppressing your own children, and the earth.
Sorry, (not sorry) but this rant apparently needs to happen.
READ, contemplate for yourself, and know thy enemy.
Their ability to bend the oil depots is probably related to their starlink/starshield access. 🥺
Starlink bandwidth cap affected air defences of Kyiv
Did you read the article? It specifically says that’s not the case and so the Starlink disruption does not affect that.
“Did you read the article?” they asked without having read the article.
Did you?
Overnight, Ukraine’s military reported that, without explanation, the Starlink satellite communications system, produced by Musk’s SpaceX but managed by the US government, was no longer working at speeds greater than 100mph.
That effectively rendered most of the drones used by Ukraine to strike behind the frontlines inoperable…
Yes, the quote you posted supports my comment. The frontlines are in Ukraine, not in Russia. The quote you posted refers to operations inside of Ukraine. If you thought that “behind the frontlines” means “in Russia”, the article clarifies below:
But, ironically, it would have no impact on Ukraine’s deep strike bombing of oil refineries because Kyiv is banned from using Starlink to hit targets inside of Russia.
FWIW, leading with that quoted sentence instead of a “Did you read the article?” would have worked out much better to correct the assumption.
It would, my bad, I was on mobile then and already closed the article when I went back here to read comments.
can someone remind me what Ukraine does for the US again?
- They abandoned their nukes on a promise that USA would protect them.
- They are defending democracy against a totalitarian regime. Something USA claims to support.
- They are fighting against Russia that is undermining USA and allies.
- They are buying weapons through the coalition of the willing at a 10% surcharge from USA. All weapons to Ukraine are taxed an extra 10! by Trump, so USA is making huge profits from Ukraine!!!
- They have supported most of Trumps peace proposals, it is Putin that refuse to negotiate anything but complete surrender.
- Ukraine supported Trumps idea of NOT bombing energy infrastructure and actually stopped. Except it was only within hours that Russia attacked another Ukrainian power plant!
If I was moderator here, you would be insta perma banned from all subs I moderated!
4,5,6 seem like reasons that the current government might care about, thanks
They produce beautiful kids, which then get trafficked via Lolita Express to Epstein Island.
Why does Ukraine need to do something for the US in order for the US to help Ukraine defend itself from the goddamn Russians?
Do you only help people with the expectation of personal gain?
Is yandex up again already?
I never noticed the search being down, but I thought that was russia
Keeps the russians at bay and fights for democratic values. Which then leads to people buying american products and oil. This was well understood decades ago, you need to catch up with the times
the current orangatang clearly does not want the russians at bay, nor does it care about democratic values. I just dislike the term “betrayed” when it should have been obvious to everyone that the US was eventually going to stop helping them.
Well you said what Ukraine does for the US not the orangutang
If the American government reacts like this, then it sure shows how Ukraine is winning.
Ukraine is not winning. They are steadily losing territory.
