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      It’s a bit more complicated but essentially only a third support him, a third oppose, and a third are either too stupid to know what side to choose or too lazy to do anything. In my opinion it’s this third camp that are the worst of the worst. At least the Trumpers are doing what they think is right, these guys are just lazy and willing to just let anything happen to them as long as they can watch Netflix and buy Funko pops.

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      Shows the importance of having a proper primary process. Biden fucked up and dropped out of the race way too late for any democratic candidate to have time to build up hype and momentum. Just being the VP shouldn’t make one an automatic default candidate. Harris did pretty bad during the Primary back in 2020, she just was not popular and didn’t inspire enough people to go vote.

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        Harris could have won, when she first announced, and then picked the left candidate for VP, her popularity skyrocketed, then cratered as she embraced the policies that had just killed the Biden campaign.

        A democrat cannot win on “we’re going to be Republicans, but more competent”.

        Which is exactly what dems are planning when they fund ICE, but ask that the gestapo stop wearing masks.

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        Harris did pretty bad during the Primary back in 2020

        Harris actually dropped out months before the primaries in 2020. She was something like 16th most popular candidate at the time she withdrew. She was a pretty unpopular AG in California at the time and likely would not have even won her own state primary.

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      These particular news are based and a long-term good for the humanity. Moving from spying corpo slop to an open-source solution is a win-win for the french people. Sad that it is only happening now, this should have been done decades ago, the US empire and its corporations have always been evil. Now they are just showing their true face to europe and the US population.

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        This is happening now because the national security hawks are suddenly (and temporarily) on the same side as open source/ privacy advocates on this specific threat.

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          Yes, the reasoning behind this is sad, but the outcome is very positive.

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    Stop replying on U.S. companies for technologies that provide the backbone of our governments!

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      They already developed alternatives for Microsoft Office:

      https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/produits/docs as an alternative to word

      https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/produits/grist as an alternative for excel and data management (much better than excel in my opinion)

      It’s open source, actively developed with Germany and the Netherlands (as I’m writing this post the last commit to doc was 49min ago) and self hostableby any administration or company who want to do it.

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        not an english word in sight. must have super potential for becoming a new standard to replace ms office.

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          If you were not a troll you would have seen that all the technical documentation about how to contribute and how to host an instance in the repository is in English. The code is well documented 100% in English.

          It make sense however that pages for users is in French, since it’s been developed for French users. If you want Geraldine, the secretary of the tax office in Trifouilly les Oies to use it, you need to address her in French.

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    Now replace Windows with Linux, and fucking invest into not needing to use American-controlled CPUs as every single one of them contains a backdoor.

    I don’t understand why governments trust official matters in the hands of closed source software and suspicious hardware. Even China uses a special version of Windows 11 in public computers, this is nuts.

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      … Pretty much every CPU contains backdoors, not just american ones. The Chinese government does the exact same thing as the American government. They are two sides of the same coin but the Chinese government seems more competent and efficient unlike the US government.

      Even if the hardware doesn’t have backdoors, the firmware often will, which you also can’t get around with software.

      The tier after that is software which also has a lot of back doors, luckily, you can run Linux and open source software. That is the best you can do. Really the only thing you can “trust” not to have backdoors is MCUs because those backdoors are much more likely to need physical access.

      Sadly, our entire tech world is built on backdoors and intentional security flaws to enable easier debugging, recovery, and compliance with government law enforcement after the sale.

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      Here’s my guess, and I could be completely wrong.

      All the governments use 2 sets of computers. The first, is a closed network used only internally. Open source, connected as a network, but NOT connected to outside neteorks. This uses closed source OS that they themselves develop. No backdoors. Highly secured.

      The second set is what you know. Windows 11, backdoors, easily spied on. Intentionally left open, because that’s their way to spy on the other countries.

      They leave this open, to let themselves be spied on, so that they can spy on the other side. Neither side realizing they’re both doing the same thing, and both sides just getting mostly useless info.

      Then, to throw off the trail of it being useless info, they occasionally allow a juicy bit of info into their windows computer. Just so it’s not obvious that this isn’t the real info.

      I have zero evidence, and came up with this theory after reading your comment. So I could be very wrong.

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      Ignorance, mostly. It’s sad but Chinese leaders seem to listen to their experts, while EU leaders listen to CEOs, and of large companies only.

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      China has been working intensely for at least 2 decades to catch up, and they are still about a decade behind!

      Netherlands has ASML which is a huge advantage for European independent manufacturing, but even with that it’s an insanely expensive investment to make a realistic competitor to AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Broadcom because they have loads of patents that are hard to avoid, and they have decades of know how.
      Chip production is a global enterprise, and even USA isn’t independent anymore. They depend on ASML and TSMC for their most popular products in AI, Smartphones, servers, laptops and desktops. And more and more Arm is taking over from Intel/AMD.

      What we may be able to do would be using Arm and have TSMC help us with manufacturing. But to make such a project succeed is not an easy thing, we had European computer companies in the 70’s and 80’s that were heavily subsidized by governments that dominated home markets for several European countries, and they essentially all failed against international competition.
      So what we risk if we were required to use a European product funded by EU/European governments would be to have to use an overpriced under-performing technology, that would be a millstone around the neck of all of Europe.

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        they have loads of patents that are hard to avoid

        China doesn’t care about patents of outsiders.

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          And the rules based international order has been exposed as the wink during a handshake deal. Who cares about patent law?

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          Seems to me that it’s time for the rest of the world to invalidate US IP and go from there.

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        He is talking about software. A fucking video conferencing tool not controlled by American tech is no ASML level investment.

        We could at least start with this

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    Apparently a rebranded LiveKit, which is developed by an US American company…

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      No, Visio is based on BigBlueButton, and it is to interface with Tchap, which is an internal Matrix server for France’s gov agents.
      EDIT: Ah! Yes, apparently LiveKit is involved in the integration with Tchap. My bad, you seem to be right!

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    This is only a part of france’s “LaSuite” (very original name guys), that seemingly will replace every equivalent american service.

    https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/

    They generally work pretty well (demo on the site) and are a mix of homegrown solutions and rebrands of existing projects like matrix. All of them are open source.

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      And the apps have docker for easy setup! I was expecting something very convoluted and not suitable for tinkerers. What’s good/bad is that the the apps seem to be deployed independently. Would love to have single user for everything. Need to read a bit further to see how it’s done

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        To have a single user with multiple services you usually use a separate oauth provider, in the french government’s case that’s France connect but authelia is a good self-hosted option.

        It’s possible these ones have a built-in system for this though, I haven’t checked.

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          I might not have explained well. Not only a single user, but a connected one. If I’m in the chat app and want to share a file, to show automatically my cloud drive, to jump from text chat to video call video call or to have a notification on the chat app when an invite with a video call is received.

          As much as I hate MS, almost everything I do with teams and outlook alone.

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            tbh I really don’t know for this solution, but you might like nextcloud, it’s exactly what you’re looking for, each part of the site is connected in that way.

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              Thanks, I used to have it. It died on me multiple times in the past (I’m sure I’m ultimately at fault) so I’m a bit wary.

              For lasuite I’m thinking about it’s long term staying power in France institutions and adaption by other agencies/companies.

              There will be a big pushback by users, so the smoother the better

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        Sadly they don’t allow anyone to follow their instance, so finding their videos and interacting isn’t possible. But at least it’s a step.

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      They should have called it “du coup” for that authentic frenchness.

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        They’re all cloud tools, but if you have a spare computer and some knowledge you can host it yourself.

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    No mention of Capgemini on the announcement, there’s a chance this will actually ship!

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      The “find out” will take forever. France just decided that a “sovereign server” can be AWS or any US big-tech providing the physical server is located in France.
      France has also signed a contract with Microsoft (“sovereign” solution again) for the national health data hub, even as a parliament investigation had MS France GM stating MS can’t guarantee the data won’t leak to the US!
      Most political leader are grossly ignorant on anything IT.

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        Most political leader are grossly ignorant on anything IT.

        And corrupt.