• toiletobserver@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’m on board for forever ripping off YouTube videos via third party apps that de-shitify the content.

    Do i get to claim that word as mine now?

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    the only alternative to youtube that will meet mass appeal and adoption is an alternative that can afford to competetively pay creators

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      Which would mean either a subscription model, ad model, or somewhere in between. In all cases, it’s doomed from the start because who the hell wants to deal with that when YouTube provides the same.

      Privacy enthusiasts, maybe, but there’s 10000 proles for every one of them.

      I have a nebula subscription because there’s a handful of creators that I like.

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        4 months ago

        I’ve got a channel on peertube and I’ve never noticed any issues with the platform. It’s just the lack of content that’s an issue.

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          Discoverability is a major problem for PeerTube, as it is for pretty much every fedi platform. Even if there WAS content on PeerTube, it’s basically impossible to find.

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          Because humans don’t think the way you do. You think “well if everyone just did the thing I like, then the thing I like would work”.

          Meanwhile, each individual person is a highly complex series of thoughts, emotions, and opinions that change with time. And that’s just 1 person. There are BILLIONS of people on this planet. Each one unique. Each one thinking their own set of thoughts.

          But the majority just go with whatever has the least resistance. Youtube is established. Youtube is the default content provider. Therefore it doesn’t matter if there’s a better option. This one requires no effort on their part to find content.

          Peertube is decentralized. Which means it has no way to ever formulate a plan to gain popularity, or even plan things. You run your own instance, host your own content, and deal with your own issues.

          But what if someone else hosts their own instance with offensive content? Can’t shut them down. They host their own content. There is no overseeing board to enforce rules.

          And theres no way to make money either. The top youtubers don’t see youtube as a hobby. They see it as a job. Now imagine going to your job, and your boss tells you that they’re switching platforms, and this new platform has no money to pay you. Would you stay?

          So you need a coordinated effort, with no plan for profit, on a service that needs to be built up from the ground up, for an audience that doesn’t exist yet.

          Forget “why not improve peertube?” the real question is “what motivation would anyone have to do so?”

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            “what if someone hosts their own instance with offensive content?” You mean like anyone could do with Lemmy or Piefed? If that’s a reason not to use a platform then why are you here? If there’s offensive content on another instance then you defederate from it, like a lot of peertube instances have done already.

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            “what motivation would anyone have to do so?”

            The same motivation that leads to people developing and hosting it in the first place?