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“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.
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Next thing you know, we’ll start seeing mirrors on the roads and wheelchair assassins.
It’s a reference to the AFR, a radical separatist squad of wheelchair assassins, from the book Infinite Jest. They worked with and opposed the Bureau of Unspecified Services, which are US celebrity president and famous crooner Johnny Gentle’s left hand.
I heckin’ HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went “independent” we’d get Venezuela’d immediately!
I feel like it’s a safe assumption more Americans in border states want to join Canada than the other way around.
I think even Cali would told it came to a vote and they’d already gained terrority adjacent to Cali thru the Pacific Northwest
That would be a true death low to the American Empire, without Cali we’d be fucked.
It would never happen, but it’d be worth Canada to hype it up just because if trump has to play defense, he just stops playing the game and starts a new one. That’s whY the whole TACO thing is, but because someone on social media made up a buzzword, no one really understands what’s happening
Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Now extrapolate Trump’s curve, from the 1980’s, when The Kremlin Papers indicate Putin was investing in him, until now, & keep the acceleration in that curve.
“Majority opinion” or whatever it is that you’re believing rules, now, ISN’T what rules:
He’s on-track to break the US Constitution’s significance within months or weeks, probably by the Insurrection Act.
ICE’s purpose isn’t even obvious, yet: once he “de-naturalizes” all who won’t vow allegiance to him, directly ( as he apparently already does for senior beaurocrats in multiple federal agencies ), suddenly are “illegals”, & that means 100’s of millions of “illegals”, & then the reason he insists they have TOTAL immunity will become blatent.
Deathmatch, between his authority vs the disintegrated, not-organized, “woke”, & if everybody is destroyed, so long as nobody-else won, then he wins.
Negative-Sum game ( competitive-nihilism ) combined with Zero-Sum game ( competitive-narcissism ).
IF a country WON’T prevent DarkTriad from gaining authority, THEN that country will be ruled, & probably destroyed, by DarkTriad’s ruling it.
Karma, aka “sow->reap law”.
We WOULDN’T prevent DarkTriad from ruling our countries, .: we’re about to be getting fatal consequences.
The rules are fundamentally changing beneath us, right now, & shortly the tippingpoint gets crossed, then Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance
begins all-out.
Canada, too, gets torn up, by the prejudice-enforcers in Alberta & Quebec ( & the Anglo-supremacists who bully Quebecois validity, & the rest of the factional-supremacists: ALL sides have them, including Indigenous people, Whites, India, Chinese, ALL kinds of saboteurs of Canada’s viability… it’s natural, given how little we invested in establishing common-experience, like what Katimavik used to do )
Prep, if you want to live long in the next stage of our world: it’ll be violent, once the right-wing has shed rule-of-law for rule-of-authority, completely.
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Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Which is why the EU is currently making trade agreements with just about everyone on the planet. The USA handing out tariffs like candy is a lot less relevant when you can pivot your trade elsewhere on fairly short order.
Such an agreement with Canada has been in the works for the last ten years. All that’s currently missing is for it to be ratified by all involved countries, which might go a bit quicker now given how the States are behaving.
Shit, I live in NJ and I’d like to join Canada, minus the whole monarch head of state part. I’m willing to overlook that for obvious reasons. I like hockey guys, let me in! I suspect that I should probably keep the fact that I’m a flyers fan on the down low.
We overlook it a lot too. Like, the Governor General is appointed by the reigning monarch, and has final say on laws and such, but it’s mostly a ceremonial role. I don’t think we’ve ever had royal assent refused? I am no political scholar tho.
Monarchy has no power in Canada. At all.
Then why do all my quarters have big ears now 😭
I’m pretty sure the Gov. General can revoke royal assent on behalf of the monarch. That doesn’t happen a lot, but I think it could technically and legally still happen. But yeah, the royals almost no impact. Except for the time the royal couple people visited Slave Lake after the fire (JK).
Alberta wouldn’t ever be “independent.” At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.
Yeah, they all talk a big game about independence, but it’s all hogwash.
Do not underestimate Alberta. the last election was about sovereignty and 92% of ridings went to MAGA.
92% of ridings != 92% of Albertan Voters. The UCP only got 52.6% of the vote.
ETA: Land doesn’t vote. Maps can be misleading.
Who cares, that’s not how elections work in Canada. “Only 52%” voted MAGA -proud of that?? That’s enough to win a separtist referendumb.
So l’il PP lost, and the party then makes a US citizen the leader AGAIN, and yet another AB riding elects MAGA. So yeah, they would become North Montana in a heartbeat.
I’d like to see a referendum to kick out Alberta because the country is sick of their right-wing bullshit polluting our politics after hijacking the PC brand.
Why are you mad at me? Lol. I was pointing out that it’s not as bad as the riding count makes it look. I am not your enemy guy.
You can be a douchebag and advocate to kick Alberta out, sure. I’m not that big of a defeatist though. We had an NDP gov a few years ago, and support for the UCP is getting flaky. There are a lot of progressive grassroots movements that are going through the province.
That’s the STRATEGY.
Thank you for making it explicit.
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Thank you for making me see that it is a strategy!
Alberta has always dreamed of being a US state.
That’s why its the target. They’ll still be debating among themselves as APCs roll in.
This is double upsetting for me, since I’m fleeing the US to go to Alberta, hahaha. That would be some fucking irony.
How is this not an act of war?
My guess is the actual answer is something like
“Because we all do it a little, we just pretend nobody knows and we’re not stupid enough to get caught like these guys lmao.”
I’ve said this before, but Washington State, Oregon, California, New York and everything east of it should join Canada.
… Can NC join… Just the little peninsula of western NC?
Why not? Everybody’s welcome! Except the magats. Fascists can stay home.
The fucking Russians are mixing with those morons too. Send the far-right Canadians fuck ups for a 6 month stay in the Oklahoma and Mississippi Oblasts. That should clear their fucked up ideas.
I guarantee Israel and the Zionist tech bros are involved
Trump and his administration are a dumpster fire. Countries should just cut all contact at this point.
Yeah about that, we’re kinda stuck with them.
MAGA showed up in Greenland, handed red hats to homeless people ands aid “Look how much they want us here”
They’re doing the same thing in Alberta. The “Forever Canada” petition showed that people sitting on street-corners could gather 400k signatures to stay in Canada.
A well funded Maga Movement is renting out stadiums for a counter petition. I expect they’ll get less than 100k signatures.
Find the people handing out the red hats then beat their fucking knees to mush, then send them back to the Nazied States of America.
Treason
Not sure what else this guy has to do before the majority of Americans grasp that he’s an actual, real life, traitor.
I can’t decide which is more stupid, their ai made plan to take over the world or their execution of it.
Reminder that these same types of fascists have control over nearly every branch of US government and are actively dismantling their democracy. They are not a joke and they need to be taken 120% seriously.
It is time these people started getting the book thrown at them for treason. This is working with a foreign power to undermine the country.
luckily it seem people are taking it seriously
Totally with you.
Installing violent juntas in South America is so 20th Century. Now we’re installing violent juntas in North America.
What do you want us to do, not install violent juntas?
What a fucking menace. Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country? They are making themselfes the common, lifelong enemy of many, many groups of people.
We’ve done it before (violating sovereignty). Kind of a lot. Oh man…I hate this list. Looking at it all (AI generated) at once is a big oof. Several are joint operations.
Year(s) – Aggressor – Victim – Colloquial name / shorthand
- 1846–1848 – United States – Mexico – Mexican–American War
- 1893 / 1898 – United States – Kingdom of Hawaii – Overthrow & Annexation of Hawaii
- 1899–1902 – United States – Philippines – Philippine–American War
- 1903 – United States – Colombia / Panama – Panama Secession (Canal Coup)
- 1912–1933 – United States – Nicaragua – U.S. Occupation of Nicaragua
- 1915–1934 – United States – Haiti – U.S. Occupation of Haiti
- 1916–1924 – United States – Dominican Republic – U.S. Occupation of DR
- 1953 – United States (CIA) – Iran – Operation Ajax
- 1954 – United States (CIA) – Guatemala – Guatemalan Coup
- 1958 – United States – Lebanon – Lebanon Crisis
- 1960–1965 – United States (CIA) – Congo – Lumumba Assassination / Congo Crisis
- 1961 – United States – Cuba – Bay of Pigs Invasion
- 1964 – United States – Brazil – Brazilian Military Coup
- 1965 – United States – Dominican Republic – Operation Power Pack
- 1969–1973 – United States – Cambodia – Secret Bombing of Cambodia
- 1960s–1970s – United States – Laos – Secret War in Laos
- 1970–1973 – United States (CIA) – Chile – Chilean Coup
- 1976 – United States – Argentina – Dirty War / Junta Support
- 1979–1989 – United States – Afghanistan – Operation Cyclone
- 1980s – United States – Nicaragua – Contra War
- 1983 – United States – Grenada – Invasion of Grenada
- 1989 – United States – Panama – Operation Just Cause
- 2001–2021 – United States – Afghanistan – War in Afghanistan
- 2003 – United States – Iraq – Iraq War
- 2011 – United States / NATO – Libya – Libyan Intervention
- 2011–present – United States – Syria – Syrian Civil War (U.S. Intervention)
Where is Honduras?
West of the Caribbean, between Guatemala and Nicaragua. But that’s not important right now.
Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country?
Like Venezuela?
They did that, but still don’t actually control the country. Mostly because they’re fucking morons.
The CIA usually holds their own competence in higher regard than reality does. All because Hollywood, and Tankies, think the CIA is magical or some shit.
They’re more like a small child with a machine gun, especially under Trump. You have to question how they got it, and how many people will get hurt, and you can be fairly sure nothing constructive will come out of it.
When I was a kid the CIA (and FBI for that matter) seemed like some magical force that was impossible to go against. Now I’m an adult I see the CIA as a massively expensive meddling influence that will do long-term massive damage to a country often for short-term gains. They truly are one of the biggest terrorist organisations on the planet.
to be fair, the us is sending their criminals and drugs, these are acts of war against the sovereign nation of hoth, and for that a police action to bring their leader to trial must be underaken.
Like the U.S.?
And Palestine? And Ukraine?
Yes, they (MAGA) do think they can do that. Their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy are boundless. The U.S. is going rogue, we are in the run up to WWIII, and I am not being hyperbolic. The rest (non-MAGA) aren’t paying attention, can’t see what they don’t want to believe, or, like me, are horrified, terrified, and making plans to get out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.
On the positive side, the U.S. is strongly teeing up financial collapse, which will likely hit towards the end of this year (maybe mid to late October?) Look at what gold is doing. It’s the biggest gold bull market of all time, already eclipsing the 1981 peak that came from the stagflation era following Nixon’s removal of the gold standard, and that’s even adjusted for inflation. The U.S. is running a ~6% budget deficit, consumer confidence is crashing, a leading indicator of a recession, ~1/3 of the U.S.’ $38 trillion in debt comes due and will have to be rolled over in a higher interest rate environment and at a time where the world is divesting of U.S. debt, and Trump gets to appoint a lackey as Chair of the Fed in May. You can 100% bet on the fact that the Fed is going to have to buy treasuries (i.e., print money) to cover the debt, which will devalue the currency boost inflation, and destroy the dollar. The Fed will also juice rates. We’ll have a boom in stocks with a blow-off top that will make the 1929 crash look quaint. There will be massive business failures, bank runs, and complete chaos, with a good chance of civil war (we’re already in a “cold” civil war, somewhat analogous to The Troubles.) Accordingly, I don’t see the conquest of Canada as likely before the situation collapses in on itself. However, if MAGA emerges from the chaos with its grip on power intact, god help us all (and I’m an atheist.)
It is too early to separate MAGA from USA. That will happen when MAGA is defeated and banned.
I draw a parallel between Nazis and Germany and MAGA and the USA. For the world, Germany was Nazi, just as for the rest of us, the USA is MAGA now. The USA is harming the world and when it stops (when MAGA is just another dark page in US history), we (the rest of the world) will stop equating MAGA and the USA.
Unfortunately, the US military is too strong and no one can bomb the USA, that will never happen. Therefore, the people of the USA must defeat MAGA. They brought it to power, they will have to defeat it and never let it arise again.
If this does not happen for some time, the USA eventualy will cease to exist as a superpower but at the cost of millions of victims.
Never happen? Look up 9/11 2001. You don’t need trillions in spending to do damage. Temu terrorism was very effective.
Given the divisions in Canada like Quebec, western alienation and Alberta being conservative central, yeah, they might be able to.
Quebec can talk all it wants but in the end I don’t believe they will chance separation right now, especially with the wolves at the back door (Maine - New Brunswick border crossing).
They are an attack vector for US desire to divide to conquer Canada. Their separatism culture is a vulnerability for the nation, as is its multicultural mosaic that is only as strong as the connection between groups and those are not really that strong.
https://thewalrus.ca/few-quebecers-support-sovereignty-and-even-fewer-want-a-referendum/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/most-quebecers-againt-holding-sovereignty-referendum-poll/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/most-quebecers-againt-holding-sovereignty-referendum-poll/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/poll-most-quebecers-oppose-independence/
Were you born last week?
It’s sometimes difficult for us to be patient and kind with others, I know the feeling.
Reflecting on what we said to a person, and how it might have been received, can help us gain a better understanding of how to interact with them to get the outcomes we want, whilst remaining positive, empathetic, and keeping toxic behaviour at bay.
Username checks out, lol. Thanks for the reminder.
Next: “separatists” in green vests without insigna rebel against the Canadian government. Fuck this shit
This is the “new world order” Alex Jones type psychos have pretended to be afraid of. Now that it’s happening, they fucking love it because the reality was they just needed a scary story to attach to people they already hated. Now that the people they like are creating the new world order, they fucking love it. As long as they control the one world government, they’d love for that to happen.
It’s always projection.
