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“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.
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How is this not an act of war?
My guess is the actual answer is something like
“Because we all do it a little, we just pretend nobody knows and we’re not stupid enough to get caught like these guys lmao.”
Installing violent juntas in South America is so 20th Century. Now we’re installing violent juntas in North America.
What do you want us to do, not install violent juntas?
Trump and his administration are a dumpster fire. Countries should just cut all contact at this point.
Yeah about that, we’re kinda stuck with them.
The far-right international coordination must be crushed.
Through far-left international coordination, perhaps??
Reactive-programming, using the same methods, ISN’T strategic-win: it’s just becoming the same underlying-nature, in different “makeup”.
Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,
& that takes fundamental, profound, strategic investment, & that isn’t happening.
So, … kiss most of humankind goodbye, this-century, perhaps even all of it.
It’ll be finished by next-century, probably, the “armageddon” we manufacture ( for our unconscious-mind to play “god” in ).
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democracy_Union it’s not even a conspiracy, it’s in the open.
This is the most insufferable post I’ve read on Lemmy, congrats
Then automatically downvote everything you see of mine: it costs little, & it makes the world be more to your liking.
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“OH NO! SOMEBODY WANT TO KICK FASCISM IN THE FACE UNTIL IT STOPS BREATHING AND REPLACE IT WITH BASIC DIGNITY FOR ALL! STOP THEM RIGHT NOW, FOR THE BLOOD-THIRSTY REICH MUST BE FOUGHT ON THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS -THEN- MAYBE THEY’LL STOP DEPORTING AND KILLING PEOPLE!”
I’ve never understood the cuck logic of a nation which has absolutely no trouble sending troops to DESTROY entire countries in the name of oi-- “freedom” (to eat at Mc Donalds after your contry’s been carpet bombed? Wtf?), but will absolutely not confront a threat that is existential to the entire fucking planet when it’s right in front of them.
And you have guns. You have guns and he’s still alive.
You must really love your little orange pedoführer.
I think the fundamental-problem is narcissism-culture.
The US is more narcissism-culture than the rest of us are, & that’s got consequences…
the propaganda in US “education” is … sickening, & I’ve only seen people describing it…
I was in the US shortly after 9/11, & … nationalism is their religion … straight-up religion.
All-saturating, they breathe it, nothing is tolerated to happen outside it, it’s … not fun.
Since then, I discovered that nationalism-religion is actually normal!
Blewmy mind…
I think that New Zealand & Canada partially escaped that, & that it’s probably the fact that Nature so defined our experiences that we just didn’t go as-far-down that road?
Ah, you assumed I’m US-citizen…
Sorry, no.
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Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,
This reads like 10 feel good quotes smashed together without any logic.
Paradigms produce their-paradigm’s results.
Never bother expecting empathy from a sociopathic-paradigm, right?
The paradigm-ITSELF as to be corrected.
No more-superficial amendment’s going to change anything.
& if you deem my meanings to be logicless, then simply downvote them all, to improve our world.
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The same thing they’re doing in Europe. It’s in their fucking manifesto or whatever, they’re not even hiding it.
Thanks to all these Americunts, the fascism in Europe is accelerating.
The whole world needs Americunts to get their shit together.
“B-b-buT LoOk aT tHe rIsE oF fAsCiSm iN yOuR own EUrOpe” - Americunts
Yeah, it’s rising thanks to the American government and American billionaires funding and encouraging the far-right fascists.
Your leaders are pussies and have been mostly disappointing in the face of fascism; sucking up to Trump up until the more vivid threats to Greenland, and being almost equally as complicit in letting the Palestinian genocide happen that tipped the domino for delegitimizing international law.
Neoliberalism is what made room for fascism to rise in the US, it’ll be what tanks your continent if you do not put pressure on your leaders, elect populist leaders with an actual vision for the future of Europe, and grind those fucking shit-stain Nazis to a fucking dust.
I’ve never been more embarrassed to be an American, but those of us that knew that Trump was a fucking fascist are the ones organizing against his paramilitary with relentless protests, organizing two general strikes, and winning special elections against the right just this month. The public is getting radicalized and are arming themselves.
And to remind you guys that money isn’t everything in an election, there was a special election last year that Musk dumped billions of dollars into, to prop up one of their MAGA hacks because they wanted that district strategically, and they fucking lost. Leftwing Zohoran Mamdani in NYC was also facing against billionaires, but won with a populist campaign and is the most popular politician in the country.
Anyway, US hegemony is over, and you guys have to make it for the better. I grieve our relationship with Europe, but you guys are on your own now and the rest is up to you. Protest your leaders if they suck Trump’s cock, elect leaders that are willing to dump US bonds and get rid of the US dollar as the world reserve currency. Get yourself and your people involved in your elections for people that will fight for you. I pray for a better future for the world, even if it means this country will get what it rightfully deserves.
News flash, fascism has been on the rise in Europe since way before Trump. If anything, seeing it accelerate at such an alarming pace in America might give us a warning to change course. If we can get our current spineless, useless politicians out of office, and cut ties with American fascists/capitalists
Americunts
So cringe 🤣
I hope you’re as brave as the people over here who have been martyred. We have a feckless opposition party, which basically means that the people are on their own, and we’re up against the most advanced military in the world. Until now, the brown shirts have been terrorizing an entire state. What would you have us do? I voted, I begged and pleaded those around me to not vote for fascism.
I am not defending this hell that 77,302,580 people welcomed in with thunderous applause.
You really need to come up with something better than Americunts though. 🤣
It’s probably best to just let other people grieve, peoples anger towards America right now isn’t unfounded. You and I are aware of the conditions we’re subjected to in this shit hole but I don’t think people in other countries are in the mood to hear about it right now
It’s fair to hate our government, it’s fucking awful. It’s fair to hate the magats, they are all vile, despicable people. It’s not fair to hate the people who are trying to do good, who are trying to kick the fascists out.
Hate the fascists, not the anti-fascists. You can do a lot of damage to the people fighting the regime by lumping us together with the neonazis.
You’re asking for non-Americans to observe nuance that isn’t relevant to them.
As Americans who despise Trump and have spoken and voted again him for more than a decade now, we will still be collateral damage if war broke out and they dropped bombs on American cities. Some amount of our economic activity still benefits the billionaire donors keeping MAGA in power, and any economic sanctions or boycotts they might impose to hurt MAGA will still hurt us. If we get into a shooting was with them, they will not stop to check the voting history of the soldiers they encounter. That’s how conflicts go.
They have no jurisdiction over you to treat you as an individual, or as anything other than an American citizen. And if they cared too much about hurting you, they couldn’t do what was necessary to opposed MAGA anyway.
I’m American and you are putting a lot of words in my mouth.
Sorry that I cannot feel sorry for the Americunts, while they’re fucking me in the ass.
The whole world is suffering because of the mess you created.
Are you saying we should do what imperialist Americunts do, invade you and overthrow your government?
No, you elected a convicted rapist, pedophile and war criminal via a legal democratic process.
Only you can fix your own shithole. So please do, because no one else in the world voted for that rapist, yet we are being raped.
Fyi, I’m not blaming you individually.
Also, what would you like to be called instead? Fascist? Nazi? AmeriKKKan?
McFascists?
20 day old account rage-dumping on the only people that can change it for the better, lol. Blocked.
20 day old account
Clearly the account age does not correlate to how smart someone is, because you are as dumb as a bag of bricks.
Unblocked to point out that you’re such a butthurt little girl you just went and used three alts to downvote every comment I’ve made in the last three days.
Clearly account age does not inversely correlate to maturity.
Explain again how smart you are? You did it with the same three accounts all in the same half hour like that shit’s not public.
But seriously, THANK YOU for letting me know it got to you, and for exposing your alts:
zeroConnection@programming.dev
RibbidRabbid@sopuli.xyz
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.worldOr I just have some friends, unlike your sorry ass living in your mom’s basement.
Please shout louder. Makes me happy to see you so miserable and frothing at your mouth
Dude, I’m looking at your post history votes, all your comments you regularly upvote with your own alts.
Tell me about all your friends again, lol.
FeddedUp@feddit.online
zeroConnection@programming.dev
RibbidRabbid@sopuli.xyz
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world
Republicunts?
Maybe it’s because we don’t use the word “cunt”, like at all. So any sort of disparagement that includes “cunt” sounds a bit silly to us (perhaps it’s just me?)
Fair enough, suppose it depends where in the world you are. Australia certainly has a different take on the word.
Inflation and inequality drive far right and left politics. Money has been debased with printing, fake wealth in assets masks it for a while.
I remember watching brexit thinking “damn they really are that stupid?” only to see Trump elected here shortly after. The fascist slide didn’t start here and when it takes over the rest of Europe we’ll all be sitting here watching yall “handle it” with all that empty bravado
You’ve successfully projected all of the problems in the world onto foreigners! Congratulations, and welcome to MAGA!
Let me direct you to the Trump gift shop, you can pick up your merch there.
Last I heard, Trump’s own actions were tanking the popularity of his European equivalents across the board. Reform UK for example peaked in the polls about a year ago, and have been dropping ever since.
Are you saying Trump went too fascist even for the European right?
Yeah pretty much
Well how well did it go here in the US when we blamed it all on Russia? The enemy within.
Not sure what else this guy has to do before the majority of Americans grasp that he’s an actual, real life, traitor.
I’ve said this before, but Washington State, Oregon, California, New York and everything east of it should join Canada.
… Can NC join… Just the little peninsula of western NC?
Why not? Everybody’s welcome! Except the magats. Fascists can stay home.
MAGA showed up in Greenland, handed red hats to homeless people ands aid “Look how much they want us here”
They’re doing the same thing in Alberta. The “Forever Canada” petition showed that people sitting on street-corners could gather 400k signatures to stay in Canada.
A well funded Maga Movement is renting out stadiums for a counter petition. I expect they’ll get less than 100k signatures.
Find the people handing out the red hats then beat their fucking knees to mush, then send them back to the Nazied States of America.
Next: “separatists” in green vests without insigna rebel against the Canadian government. Fuck this shit
All y’all thought there was going to be a US Civil War, but it turns out the first shots are getting fired across the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.
Although the show is pissing me off its clear that Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky, Jason Anderson, Chris Taylor, Mark O’Green, Scott Bennie and Christopher Taylor from Fallout 1 definitely did get somethings right ie the US trying to invade Canada.
Standard US playbook. Find lackeys who want to destabilise and split a country and fund their coup.
Although the show is pissing me off
Aw crap, I’m starting ep 1 this weekend, how does it go off the rails?
Not op, but I’m a huge fallout nerd. I love it, some of the story decisions are weird and retcons happen, but overall it captures the world beautifully and is hilarious IMO.
Never going to happen. Just some stupid people that avoid facts and only watch conspiracy videos.
In the spirit of Ralph Klein, I think we out to buy these folks one way tickets to the American state of their preference. Let ICE sort them out.
I can’t decide which is more stupid, their ai made plan to take over the world or their execution of it.
Reminder that these same types of fascists have control over nearly every branch of US government and are actively dismantling their democracy. They are not a joke and they need to be taken 120% seriously.
It is time these people started getting the book thrown at them for treason. This is working with a foreign power to undermine the country.
Totally with you.
luckily it seem people are taking it seriously
Next thing you know, we’ll start seeing mirrors on the roads and wheelchair assassins.
It’s a reference to the AFR, a radical separatist squad of wheelchair assassins, from the book Infinite Jest. They worked with and opposed the Bureau of Unspecified Services, which are US celebrity president and famous crooner Johnny Gentle’s left hand.
What a fucking menace. Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country? They are making themselfes the common, lifelong enemy of many, many groups of people.
Given the divisions in Canada like Quebec, western alienation and Alberta being conservative central, yeah, they might be able to.
Quebec can talk all it wants but in the end I don’t believe they will chance separation right now, especially with the wolves at the back door (Maine - New Brunswick border crossing).
They are an attack vector for US desire to divide to conquer Canada. Their separatism culture is a vulnerability for the nation, as is its multicultural mosaic that is only as strong as the connection between groups and those are not really that strong.
https://thewalrus.ca/few-quebecers-support-sovereignty-and-even-fewer-want-a-referendum/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/most-quebecers-againt-holding-sovereignty-referendum-poll/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/most-quebecers-againt-holding-sovereignty-referendum-poll/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/poll-most-quebecers-oppose-independence/
Yes, they (MAGA) do think they can do that. Their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy are boundless. The U.S. is going rogue, we are in the run up to WWIII, and I am not being hyperbolic. The rest (non-MAGA) aren’t paying attention, can’t see what they don’t want to believe, or, like me, are horrified, terrified, and making plans to get out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.
On the positive side, the U.S. is strongly teeing up financial collapse, which will likely hit towards the end of this year (maybe mid to late October?) Look at what gold is doing. It’s the biggest gold bull market of all time, already eclipsing the 1981 peak that came from the stagflation era following Nixon’s removal of the gold standard, and that’s even adjusted for inflation. The U.S. is running a ~6% budget deficit, consumer confidence is crashing, a leading indicator of a recession, ~1/3 of the U.S.’ $38 trillion in debt comes due and will have to be rolled over in a higher interest rate environment and at a time where the world is divesting of U.S. debt, and Trump gets to appoint a lackey as Chair of the Fed in May. You can 100% bet on the fact that the Fed is going to have to buy treasuries (i.e., print money) to cover the debt, which will devalue the currency boost inflation, and destroy the dollar. The Fed will also juice rates. We’ll have a boom in stocks with a blow-off top that will make the 1929 crash look quaint. There will be massive business failures, bank runs, and complete chaos, with a good chance of civil war (we’re already in a “cold” civil war, somewhat analogous to The Troubles.) Accordingly, I don’t see the conquest of Canada as likely before the situation collapses in on itself. However, if MAGA emerges from the chaos with its grip on power intact, god help us all (and I’m an atheist.)
It is too early to separate MAGA from USA. That will happen when MAGA is defeated and banned.
I draw a parallel between Nazis and Germany and MAGA and the USA. For the world, Germany was Nazi, just as for the rest of us, the USA is MAGA now. The USA is harming the world and when it stops (when MAGA is just another dark page in US history), we (the rest of the world) will stop equating MAGA and the USA.
Unfortunately, the US military is too strong and no one can bomb the USA, that will never happen. Therefore, the people of the USA must defeat MAGA. They brought it to power, they will have to defeat it and never let it arise again.
If this does not happen for some time, the USA eventualy will cease to exist as a superpower but at the cost of millions of victims.
Never happen? Look up 9/11 2001. You don’t need trillions in spending to do damage. Temu terrorism was very effective.
Were you born last week?
It’s sometimes difficult for us to be patient and kind with others, I know the feeling.
Reflecting on what we said to a person, and how it might have been received, can help us gain a better understanding of how to interact with them to get the outcomes we want, whilst remaining positive, empathetic, and keeping toxic behaviour at bay.
Username checks out, lol. Thanks for the reminder.
Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country?
Like Venezuela?
to be fair, the us is sending their criminals and drugs, these are acts of war against the sovereign nation of hoth, and for that a police action to bring their leader to trial must be underaken.
And Palestine? And Ukraine?
Like the U.S.?
They did that, but still don’t actually control the country. Mostly because they’re fucking morons.
The CIA usually holds their own competence in higher regard than reality does. All because Hollywood, and Tankies, think the CIA is magical or some shit.
They’re more like a small child with a machine gun, especially under Trump. You have to question how they got it, and how many people will get hurt, and you can be fairly sure nothing constructive will come out of it.
When I was a kid the CIA (and FBI for that matter) seemed like some magical force that was impossible to go against. Now I’m an adult I see the CIA as a massively expensive meddling influence that will do long-term massive damage to a country often for short-term gains. They truly are one of the biggest terrorist organisations on the planet.
We’ve done it before (violating sovereignty). Kind of a lot. Oh man…I hate this list. Looking at it all (AI generated) at once is a big oof. Several are joint operations.
Year(s) – Aggressor – Victim – Colloquial name / shorthand
- 1846–1848 – United States – Mexico – Mexican–American War
- 1893 / 1898 – United States – Kingdom of Hawaii – Overthrow & Annexation of Hawaii
- 1899–1902 – United States – Philippines – Philippine–American War
- 1903 – United States – Colombia / Panama – Panama Secession (Canal Coup)
- 1912–1933 – United States – Nicaragua – U.S. Occupation of Nicaragua
- 1915–1934 – United States – Haiti – U.S. Occupation of Haiti
- 1916–1924 – United States – Dominican Republic – U.S. Occupation of DR
- 1953 – United States (CIA) – Iran – Operation Ajax
- 1954 – United States (CIA) – Guatemala – Guatemalan Coup
- 1958 – United States – Lebanon – Lebanon Crisis
- 1960–1965 – United States (CIA) – Congo – Lumumba Assassination / Congo Crisis
- 1961 – United States – Cuba – Bay of Pigs Invasion
- 1964 – United States – Brazil – Brazilian Military Coup
- 1965 – United States – Dominican Republic – Operation Power Pack
- 1969–1973 – United States – Cambodia – Secret Bombing of Cambodia
- 1960s–1970s – United States – Laos – Secret War in Laos
- 1970–1973 – United States (CIA) – Chile – Chilean Coup
- 1976 – United States – Argentina – Dirty War / Junta Support
- 1979–1989 – United States – Afghanistan – Operation Cyclone
- 1980s – United States – Nicaragua – Contra War
- 1983 – United States – Grenada – Invasion of Grenada
- 1989 – United States – Panama – Operation Just Cause
- 2001–2021 – United States – Afghanistan – War in Afghanistan
- 2003 – United States – Iraq – Iraq War
- 2011 – United States / NATO – Libya – Libyan Intervention
- 2011–present – United States – Syria – Syrian Civil War (U.S. Intervention)
Where is Honduras?
West of the Caribbean, between Guatemala and Nicaragua. But that’s not important right now.
Well, it seems that it is perfectly legal to abduct a country’s president with military force and then put them on trial.
Care to help us out Canada?I will take more than just Trump.
I heckin’ HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went “independent” we’d get Venezuela’d immediately!
This is double upsetting for me, since I’m fleeing the US to go to Alberta, hahaha. That would be some fucking irony.
Alberta wouldn’t ever be “independent.” At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.
Alberta has always dreamed of being a US state.
That’s why its the target. They’ll still be debating among themselves as APCs roll in.
Yeah, they all talk a big game about independence, but it’s all hogwash.
Do not underestimate Alberta. the last election was about sovereignty and 92% of ridings went to MAGA.
92% of ridings != 92% of Albertan Voters. The UCP only got 52.6% of the vote.
ETA: Land doesn’t vote. Maps can be misleading.
Who cares, that’s not how elections work in Canada. “Only 52%” voted MAGA -proud of that?? That’s enough to win a separtist referendumb.
So l’il PP lost, and the party then makes a US citizen the leader AGAIN, and yet another AB riding elects MAGA. So yeah, they would become North Montana in a heartbeat.
I’d like to see a referendum to kick out Alberta because the country is sick of their right-wing bullshit polluting our politics after hijacking the PC brand.
Why are you mad at me? Lol. I was pointing out that it’s not as bad as the riding count makes it look. I am not your enemy guy.
You can be a douchebag and advocate to kick Alberta out, sure. I’m not that big of a defeatist though. We had an NDP gov a few years ago, and support for the UCP is getting flaky. There are a lot of progressive grassroots movements that are going through the province.
That’s the STRATEGY.
Thank you for making it explicit.
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Thank you for making me see that it is a strategy!
I feel like it’s a safe assumption more Americans in border states want to join Canada than the other way around.
I think even Cali would told it came to a vote and they’d already gained terrority adjacent to Cali thru the Pacific Northwest
That would be a true death low to the American Empire, without Cali we’d be fucked.
It would never happen, but it’d be worth Canada to hype it up just because if trump has to play defense, he just stops playing the game and starts a new one. That’s whY the whole TACO thing is, but because someone on social media made up a buzzword, no one really understands what’s happening
Shit, I live in NJ and I’d like to join Canada, minus the whole monarch head of state part. I’m willing to overlook that for obvious reasons. I like hockey guys, let me in! I suspect that I should probably keep the fact that I’m a flyers fan on the down low.
We overlook it a lot too. Like, the Governor General is appointed by the reigning monarch, and has final say on laws and such, but it’s mostly a ceremonial role. I don’t think we’ve ever had royal assent refused? I am no political scholar tho.
Monarchy has no power in Canada. At all.
Then why do all my quarters have big ears now 😭
I’m pretty sure the Gov. General can revoke royal assent on behalf of the monarch. That doesn’t happen a lot, but I think it could technically and legally still happen. But yeah, the royals almost no impact. Except for the time the royal couple people visited Slave Lake after the fire (JK).
Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Now extrapolate Trump’s curve, from the 1980’s, when The Kremlin Papers indicate Putin was investing in him, until now, & keep the acceleration in that curve.
“Majority opinion” or whatever it is that you’re believing rules, now, ISN’T what rules:
He’s on-track to break the US Constitution’s significance within months or weeks, probably by the Insurrection Act.
ICE’s purpose isn’t even obvious, yet: once he “de-naturalizes” all who won’t vow allegiance to him, directly ( as he apparently already does for senior beaurocrats in multiple federal agencies ), suddenly are “illegals”, & that means 100’s of millions of “illegals”, & then the reason he insists they have TOTAL immunity will become blatent.
Deathmatch, between his authority vs the disintegrated, not-organized, “woke”, & if everybody is destroyed, so long as nobody-else won, then he wins.
Negative-Sum game ( competitive-nihilism ) combined with Zero-Sum game ( competitive-narcissism ).
IF a country WON’T prevent DarkTriad from gaining authority, THEN that country will be ruled, & probably destroyed, by DarkTriad’s ruling it.
Karma, aka “sow->reap law”.
We WOULDN’T prevent DarkTriad from ruling our countries, .: we’re about to be getting fatal consequences.
The rules are fundamentally changing beneath us, right now, & shortly the tippingpoint gets crossed, then Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance
begins all-out.
Canada, too, gets torn up, by the prejudice-enforcers in Alberta & Quebec ( & the Anglo-supremacists who bully Quebecois validity, & the rest of the factional-supremacists: ALL sides have them, including Indigenous people, Whites, India, Chinese, ALL kinds of saboteurs of Canada’s viability… it’s natural, given how little we invested in establishing common-experience, like what Katimavik used to do )
Prep, if you want to live long in the next stage of our world: it’ll be violent, once the right-wing has shed rule-of-law for rule-of-authority, completely.
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Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Which is why the EU is currently making trade agreements with just about everyone on the planet. The USA handing out tariffs like candy is a lot less relevant when you can pivot your trade elsewhere on fairly short order.
Such an agreement with Canada has been in the works for the last ten years. All that’s currently missing is for it to be ratified by all involved countries, which might go a bit quicker now given how the States are behaving.
