Pope can’t handle the competition.
rare pope W
This is the way the papacy has been for 13 years now.
Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts
Interesting contrast to the church itself, which has the capacity of turning people into passive consumers of thoughts that have been painstakingly processed for centuries.
Martin Luther typed these words
I don’t know about the West, but a lot of Catholic community in SEAsia (excluding PH) are not blindly following the Pope. I know a lot of people in the community instantly criticizing any form corruption or negativity.
Even our mass regularly ask community to be more rationale in thinking.
I’m American ex catholic and yeah that was my childhood church. That said we also have a lot of people who convert to catholicism for the aesthetics and to crusade larp, and one of them insisted on arguing with the previous pope about basic doctrine as the old man was dying…
So yeah, you’re supposed to listen to the pope but nobody does.
Yeah, he’s dissing the competition.
Pretty sure that’s their whole game. More projection, I guess. sigh
Those damned Catholics.
Signed, a citizen of the culturally Protestant US, where most of us don’t even consider Catholics to be Christian
Isn’t that strange though? Catholics trace themselves back to the disciples (though I think Roman and Orthodox both claim this), yet the new ones that split somewhat recently claim they are the real ones.
It’s definitely very arbitrary! There’s plenty of other divisions within Christianity, but I’ve found it’s the more radical evangelical sect of Christianity (read: the ones in the White House) that claim Catholics aren’t Christians the hardest. I
There’s also a big rift within Catholicism that most people outside of it don’t hear about much.
Aren’t there multiple? Besides the ancient rift between Eastern and Western Catholic churches, there are also sedevacantists that seem focused on just being antisemites still (Mel Gibson’s dad had his own pseudo-Catholic church).
Yes the Apostle Peter was the first Pope. Eastern Orthodoxy, Protestantism, the Evangelists etc are are offshoots that for one reason or another rejected the Pope and Canon Law.
Eastern Orthodoxy is not an offshoot of Catholicism. They were both the same church until the schism, when they excommunicated each other.
The Pope traces his apostolic succession back to Peter, but the patriarchs of the Eastern Orthodox church trace theirs back to the other apostles. Originally, the various patriarchates were co-equal, until the Roman church began stylizing itself as the “first among equals” citing some obscure passage where Jesus had a bromance moment with Peter.
The Roman church was never in a position of authority over the other patriarchates, and when the Pope began trying to assert himself that way, the other churches began distancing themselves. The actual schism happened when that tension shattered over different interpretations of one line in the Nicean Creed.
If anything, the Roman Catholic church is an offshoot of Eastern Orthodoxy, which maintained its Ecumenical Council among the various patriarchates throughout its history.
Calling Eastern Orthodoxy an offshoot of Roman Catholicism is a very catholo-centric and misinformed take. And citing Canon Law is silly, because Rome strayed further from the original Canons than Eastern Orthodoxy ever did.
They don’t appreciate their fanbase being taken away
Passive consumers of overthought thoughts?
Passive consumers of poorly thought thoughts.
Well, raising above passive consumer is called heresy there.
Still that’s kinda rich coming from one of the world’s biggest leaders of religion, which literally encourages people to believe things without evidence and simply based on who tells them, based on unseen guidance.
Yeah, you know things are bad when one of the major manipulator entities in history says you’re manipulating too much
AI is just the next form of control after businesses have already infiltrated online forums.
Yo, where can I get me a pope sword?
I got mine from kultofathena.com 20 years ago for 40 bucks (though with fancier blade), but just checked and don’t think they sell it anymore.
You can have it if you want, it’s just laying in my basement.
Orange Catholic bible when?
May 2021
https://godblesstheusabible.com/
It’s based off New King James, which is the official Catholic text. This is the Orange Catholic Bible.
Don’t forget the official White House image of Pope Trump. https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1918502592335724809?lang=en
Edited to correct date from 2001 to 2021. My fat fingers tell all the lies.
What the fuck this is?
Trump has a special Bible that cuts and pastes the bits and pieces of the Bible that says what he wants.
It’s a Dune reference!
So it is!
Hahaha, I totally forgot about this, but the reference is almost scary in a way. Life imitating art and pretty fantastical elements of science fiction becoming reality.
What a weird world we live in.
I am an atheist (albeit I support our national churches/religious entities and believe they should be state financed) and it is fascinating that I agree with Leo XIV on a ethical, moral and even theological/spiritual level.
P.S. While I don’t believe in a meta-physical, abrahamic tradition-style god, I do thing there is a lot of wonder, beauty and even sacredness (divinity) to the cosmos. Something along the lines of this quote from a book by Alan Watts:
The universe is the Big Bang, the beginning of the universe. And you’re not something that is a result of it. You’re not something that is a sort of byproduct of it. You are it. It’s like when you take a bottle of ink and you throw it at a white wall. Smash! And all the ink spreads out. In the middle, it’s dense, isn’t it? And as it gets out on the edge, the little droplets get finer and finer and make more complicated patterns.
So in the same way, there was a big bang at the beginning of things and it spread. And you and I, sitting here in this room, as complicated human beings, are the little fringes on the edge of that bang. We are the way it’s going now.
“In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people angry and has widely been considered as a bad move.”
-Douglas Adams
I am an atheist (albeit I support our national churches/religious entities and believe they should be state financed)
What the actual fuck?
That’s a very European mindset.
Another poster mentioned “That’s a very European mindset.” It’s not exclusively a European mindset, I’ve lived for several years in Asia and have visited multiple regions. This “mindset” is arguably common even among those who are not particularly religious.
National religious institutions provide a sense of belonging to the populace, help maintain our national identity and culture and help our national liberation struggle. Even as an atheist, these are clearly good things.
And there is no discrimination in terms of religious identity. I support our Orthodox Church, Catholic Church (which is actually much more diverse than in many countries) and the Crimean Muslim leadership.
One can argue this is not a mindset, but common sense and that American attitudes are a mindset.
From my time living in the US (several years, with extensive travels), I got the impression that America nominally has “separation of church and state”, but it in reality this separation does not exist. A significant portion of American Christianity (perhaps not the majority, but it is a huge portion, far more than most Americans would admit) is de facto an arm of the oligarch regime, focused on enabling tax fraud, spreading crime and corruption and running political bribery systems. And you can’t even shut them down because of the alleged “separation of church and state”. It’s funny how that works. :)
There is one anecdote that perfectly demonstrates what I am talking about:
And the cherry on top was a comment that I found when doing a web search to find the link above:
If churches opened their doors, they’d be subject to the same criminal and legal risk that any other private business would be responsible for. The world is not a perfect utopia, and churches have to protect themselves as much as anyone else. Why don’t you open your doors?
This is extremely funny. 🤣
There’s no such thing as common sense. Its just a way for people to claim their ideals as the standard because “I said so.”
I strongly disagree.
I explained my reasoning with some clear examples. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg, I am not going to write a 2,000 word wall of text unless I am having an interesting conversation.
There’s no such thing as common sense. Its just a way for people to claim their ideals as the standard because “I said so.”
I wonder if you see the irony in this statement and how it was presented “I said so”. :)
There’s no irony, making a statement of personal opinion isn’t remotely the same as making a statement of universal truth.
Come, on! I don’t believe you don’t see why I used the term “irony” in my post.
Sorry. I don’t buy it. You might disagree with what I am saying, but you almost certainly know why I thought your “I said so” and “statement of personal opinion” pieces are ironic.
How is that not a statement of personal opinion? Are you fucking trolling me at this point? I’m not going to put IMO at the end of every statement, that’s ridiculous.
Wouldn’t you rather have people recognize why they turn to religion and nationalism instead of taking care of their fellow humans (for the sake of being human themselves instead of being kind in the expectation of a reward by a imagined deity)?
It’s the sick and bone crushing world we ourselves need to change so we can all finally be free as humans together - not look for belonging and identity, certainly not national which will only pit us against each other.
“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.” (Yes, it can help you cope - but don’t forget to reflect on what you’re suffering from.)
“No saviour from on high delivers; No faith have we in prince or peer. Our own right hand the chains must shiver: Chains of hatred, greed and fear.” Yup.
“passive consumers of unthought thoughts” is an apt way of putting it. With AI, it’s so easy not to think and have it think for you, even in things that you should really want to think about because it’s entertaining.
For example, I’ve been re-watching Game of Thrones, and I wondered how things would have changed if Joffrey had a father figure in his life that wasn’t Robert, say a teacher in swordsmanship. I could spend a lot of time thinking about how Cersei would see this teacher as a rival and want him dead, whether Robert would protect that teacher because he’s making Joffrey into more of a ‘man’, whether Joffrey being trained as a swordsman would make him braver, and even if everything happened as written up to the Blackwater, would Joffrey find his courage and go out into battle, and ultimately get killed by one of Stannis’ soldiers? What would happen to Sansa?
Or… I could just ask ChatGPT, get a quick answer, and forget all about it.
Dude I think at this point you’re medically required to write that fanfiction.
I was going to ask if they’d heard of AO3, because yeah. I think it’d do at LEAST one number
Interesting, I thought an AI Jesus/Pope would be a benefit for the Catholic Church. I mean look at what they used the last centuries to bring people into believers.
‘Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts’
That’s brilliant! I’m not Catholic, I’m not even religious at all, and I’ve NEVER paid attention to any Pope, but this guy is different.
He’s American with black heritage, so being different than the ones before is basically built in.
Never fear though, there’s a shoe waiting to drop somewhere, there always is.
He is Peruvian in my book
He’s also a mathematician.
Being the head of the longest-running pedophile ring in history doesn’t give one much high ground to chastise from.
“Passive consumers of unthought thoughts”?
You mean… like a religion brainwashes you into becoming as you’re indoctrinated?
Maybe this guy is being decent, or maybe he just sees a threat to his monopoly?
The enemy of my enemy and all that. If dude can convince any of his followers to wake the fuck up then let the man speak; we could use the numbers.
