• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    So if I read this right

    They left the states and couldn’t return because the guys visa wasn’t valid anymore, but Canada turned them away because of the car.

    At that point you should probably apply for asylum now and refuse to go back to where you don’t have valid papers anymore.

    Or have the person with no longer valid papers walk through if they’ll let you and the other person go back.

  • Gsus4@mander.xyz
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    3 months ago

    Well, at least she got the full murica experience. Yellowstone, Vegas, roughed up and thrown in an ICE detention center for 6 weeks…🙃

    • Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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      yea man as much as i hate victim blaming i really want people to NOT dress themselves in a toga stitched together out of raw meat before they leap down into the pit of starving hyenas >.>

      i wouldn’t be so mean as to call that attempted tourist stupid but i would sympathetically tell them “that’s rough buddy” before gesturing in their direction to address others with “please don’t do what they did.”

  • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    3 months ago

    So when are countries like the UK (and my own Australia) going to update official government travel advice to warn against travel to America?

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        That’s gotta be a joke right?

        The US Government is quite literally sending bloodthirsty hounds against their own people, and dragging innocent tourists off to detention centres for no reason, yet the UK is rated worse due to the couple of terror attacks we’ve had over the last year??

        I think I know where I’d rather take my chances as a tourist. Yikes.

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          The UK is speedrunning the US to fascism, and they are ahead, even if they don’t have a blowhard running the show, just a traitorous mealy mouthed tool of the oligarchy. Cancelling the magna carta, the right to protest, defenses to decades in prison for protesting, bad faith terror designations by their corrupts lawmakers, a masterbaitorbase, age controls, the last two of which to give Thiel access to everything to make secret social scores to use against the population.

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            3 months ago

            and now they plan on making vpn use illegal without doxxing the user prior to internet use.

          • npcknapsack@lemmy.ca
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            3 months ago

            Remember when everyone was up in arms against China for their social credit score? I guess it’s fine as long as it’s administered by a billionaire.

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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      They won’t because we are expected to toe the imperial line. We are a vassal state of the US.

      It’s batshit that DFAT haven’t issue a travel warning, I agree. There’s warnings for China (reasonable), but damn, I feel no worry about travelling to China, just don’t do anything political.

      I’d never in a million years consider travelling to the US.

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        Like someone else said, there are warnings for the UK. Certainly not a healthy country in 2026, but for the UK to be given a safety warning when the country with literal brownshirts roaming the streets does not is just absurd.

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    man out of all that’s wrong with this I couldn’t imagine how upset I’d be that I’d have wasted vacation time for this, it wouldn’t be the biggest problem but it would be in the back of my head constantly like “wow sure is nice that I took time off work to be grabbed by americia’s new slave catchers”

    • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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      Having been to Yellowstone I can say that that experience is ALMOST worth what she went through.

      The buffalo really do just come up to your car and YES they will fucking charge you. At least this couple got to enjoy that.

      Seriously, though. Spent a week at Yellowstone and could go another ten times and see new things each time. Just absolutely a beautiful gem of America and unlike any place I’ve been.

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        I’d love to see a bunch of places in the US…

        …provided her people get their heads out of their asses and turn that country around to the point I reasonably feel safe going there.

  • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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    she knew that international travellers were being locked up in immigration detention centres in the US. “I was aware,” she nods. “But I never thought it would have any impact on my holiday.”

    Fuck the Trump administration, but also fuck this privileged bitch in particular

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      I understand your feelings but you should place your rage at the systems and structures of white privilege. Being upset at some random old white removed believing in her privilege is not helpful.

      Though it does feel good to vent out that rage sometimes. I get it.

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      What makes her a privileged bitch? She had a visa, she entered the country legally. In any other non-fascist country this wouldn’t have happened.

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        She was aware it happened to others and despite evidence to the contrary just bought the US government’s narrative that those all were illegals and criminals.

  • ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca
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    I can’t wait for the Fifa world cup to start and see how disastrous that’s going to be, I’m hoping some countries would boycott and not play.

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      lol no country is not going to send their team, and most of their fans are excited to watch them play, they don’t give a shit about the politics of it.

      You think too highly of them.

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          yeah, as an outside observer who only sees most sports through headlines and conversation i know three things about the sport. lionel messi, 7-1, and the world cup is horribly corrupt.

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    I think this ladies entire story speaks a bit to how modern day fascism is working and how our analysis of it is flawed in some ways when looking at the past.

    Racial supremacy and the core parts of fascism are still at the root of it. However, the fact that an elderly white British couple can be subject to this form of “just doing my job” ICE agents bringing them to these conditions. I think it should be a wake up call to anyone that thinks they “won’t be a target”.

    The current form of fascism is based on the vague notion of a “woke” or “demostic terrorist” or whatever. Any person can fall into these vague definitions.

    The “first they came for the communist” in an era when everyone from Nancy Pelosi to Xi Jingping is labeled as one. Well, there is no meaning to it. You will get marked as a dissonant and be treated as such. Not even your MAGA hat will save you if you give the wrong answers. We are truly hitting the false comfort of the “loyal German” when they were asked “papers please”.

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    Idk who needs to here it but Do Not Come Here. For your own good, cancel plans if you had them. If you have a work event, tell them you feel unsafe (because you sure af will be if you come to a fascist country).

    It is not safe.

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    They knew what’s going on in US and still tried to cross the border with invalid visa (she had a valid visa but her husband’s expired). There’s a word for that: idiots.

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        “Don’t worry honey, if they stop us only I will go to the concentration camp. You will continue enjoying your holiday”.

        “Oh no! They sent both of us to a concentration camp! Who could predicted that? I though ICE is following the law and never abuses their powers. Poor us!”

  • RejZoR@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Currently, I wouldn’t want to go to USA even if you pay me. I literally put USA on same shit list as countries with prevalent terrorism and dictatorship that I’d never visit. Like Russia. Imagine being a western country and on that shit list…