Can they flood Canada with cheap EV as well?
You generally don’t want to incentivize the practice of dumping since its goal is putting competition out of business.
Don’t really care about the competition. I care about having cheap access to EVs. If the competition can’t compete, then fuck em. That’s not my problem.
EVs won’t be cheap for long if there’s no competition.
Is there any domestically produced competition in Canada? The only one a search returns is still a concept (not yet commercially available). Everything else looks to be imported from elsewhere?
Most countries don’t segment electric cars vs regular ice cars. It just falls under “cars”.
The same people making a decision to buy an ice vehicle would buy a heavily subsidized Chinese vehicle.
A lot of production occurs in Canada Toyota, and Stelantis have plants there
Don’t really care about the competition. I care about having cheap access to [X]. If the competition can’t compete, then fuck em. That’s not my problem.
This comment is the American consumer for the last 50 years, next step is complaining about outsourcing jobs and lower quality products with no competition.
That only matters under an economic system that necessities competition.
Change the economic system to one that encourages cooperation instead, and that won’t be an issue.
Canada doesn’t really have its own automaker. We do have American subsidiaries of Ford, etc. and if they’re gonna go under we’ll deal with that when it happens.
Yeah, let’s just have a repeat of the rare earth market. That worked out swell for the world to let an authoritarian government have a global monopoly.
With how shit the software is in American EVs we might as well skip the rare earths altogether
I don’t think Canada needs poorly made and barely working Chinese crap.
Update: Hey, if you want to buy something Chinese, then go ahead, I can’t stop you, but even if these products are not badly made, remember that you are supporting the Chinese regime (and probably Russia) by your actions, so don’t pretend to be good and caring people later.
Better than American overpriced garbage.
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“What you talking about Doc? All the best stuff is made in China.”
If I remember correctly, Doc was talking about Japan in the movie, not China :/
They’re making fun of you. Do you not see that?
I see everything perfectly, I see how spineless the West is, and how people from the West justify supporting authoritarian regimes to the end, or they simply do not care where their money goes or whom they support with it, the most important thing is to please themselves… so many words about morality, justice, human rights, ethic, but when it comes to action… But this is not new, my ancestors (and world in general) have already gone through this in the past.
you are supporting the Chinese regime (and probably Russia) by your actions,
Yes, lets all support the USA, currently a bastion of freedom for all.
China and Russia is no better, is it? And it’s not like I’ve written anything about supporting the United States… It is bizarre to justify yourself by saying that the current USA government is bad, given that China and Russia are several times worse.
Most of the middle-class have been priced out of new cars in North America. We need those cheap cars here!
BYD gets CCP funding to take over the global markets.
Not weird there’s backlash when China is literally destroying jobs on a global scale.
Ah yes, this is somehow China’s fault and not that of the Western car manufacturers.
Can’t blame China for mismanagement.
In the US market for instance no US manufacturer makes a car with 4 doors under $40,000. And even then the cheapest one is a Tesla model 3. You know how electric cars cost more to make, it means that it’s possible to make one but they refuse or are too incompetent to do so.
This should be like when Japan started turning out cheap and reliable watches. The best safest and most cost effective products must be available for all. In the UK there’s a huge market growth in EVs from Kia and Hyundai, (Korean), Volvo (Chinese), MG (Chinese). Recently BYD has taken the market by a little storm. Traditional manufacturers like Ford, BMW, VW etc. all late to the party, and only just catching up. They have been protected.
The car market is due for an IBM level shakeup in the west. It’s unbelievable to me that Tesla is the sole manufacturer that creates cars with as good infotainment as a standalone tablet from Apple/Google. Not a single other carmaker other than Volvo can be considered objectively better than Tesla. It’s fucking insane that Chinese phone manufacturers slaughter everything on the market in terms of fluidity and ecosystem. I’m pretty sure Chinese cars even support Android auto when Google itself is heavily restricted in China. Even if you’re supporting China by buying one, it’s worth it to kick western manufacturers in the teeth so that they’ll be forced to compete.
My Ford F150 Lightning takes two whole seconds to register a volume change with an animation onscreen. It’s fucking unacceptable that this is being protected in the west.
