It’s a good way to teach everyone that the way to deal with America is to stab them in the back as soon as possible, and to make it a killing blow.
Thanks for telling us who you are.
*Trump
Who was voted into office by 77 million Americans (knowing full well who he was and what he would do once in office) while 83 million stayed home. 75 million did at least the bare minimum, but they’d spent decades allowing their party to descend into controlled opposition to the point where the best tactic they could think of to oppose Trump was to wave little round signs around in Congress.
Trump is the full embodiment of the American spirit. He’s proudly ignorant, arrogant, petty, and a firm believer in a might-makes-right philosophy. He’s also wealthy due to circumstance but firmly believes that he earned it. America has never had a truer representation of their values as President.
I didn’t vote for him. should I be included in the “full embodiment of the American spirit”?
Well, think of it this way: does the fact that some parts of the brain of a serial killer protested their acts really matter to the victims? Does it matter in court when they’re sentenced to death? Should that part of their body be judged separately?
sounds an awful lot like you’re just making excuses to be xenophobic.
are you saying that all Germans are Nazis, or all Africans are savage tribesmen, or maybe that all Australians are criminals?
Nope. I’m saying that your platitudes on the internet mean nothing to the victims, because you’re still a contributing member of the entity victimising them.
Dont forget the US democrats, who also ran a pro genocide campaign while still pretending as hard as they can that they never had anything to do with any genocide, and certainly arent compromised in their pursuit of democracy or justice, no sir-ee. This would have happened nearly the same if they had been elected-- just with more theater. The whole American governance system is fundamentally broken and unlikely to fix itself.
America has been doing this type of shit long before Trump. He’s just particularly brazen about it.
*Republicans
*The Corporate, Financial and Evangelical Donors that Own Them All
democrats too. be honest.
Who the fuck will trust the US when they bomb you during peace talks
This is the second time they’ve bombed Iran during peace talks. I know if feels like a million years, but it only happened last June.
with everything going on, it does feel like it was a million year ago
Trump did this last term too, we killed their intelligence chief when he landed for peace talks with Iraq.
This is a war crime, BTW. Attacking someone under a perceived state of truce or ceasefire is called “perfidy”.
War crimes don’t mean anything. It is a cudgel the victor uses to do more damage after they win.
disagree. What Israel did to the palestinians has meaning and is legally defined globally as war crimes. I am not willing to say those laws and global agreements have no real meaning.
I will agree if anyone gets convicted for any of it. I am not that hopeful
I hate to disagree, but laws and rules have no actual meaning if there isn’t an enforcement mechanism. Considering how long Israel and the US have been committing war crimes without even the lightest of punishment for those in charge, whatever enforcement is in place is obviously insufficient.
And was, IIRC, widely praised for it by the pundit class.
I think the “beauty of our weapons” and “Trump became president today” was a different instance from the Soleimani killing.
Honestly gladdens me to know I’m not the only one who remembers this from 2017.
There were multiple instances. I remember… I think it was Isikoff, asking “are you celebrating” or something to that effect. The only thing stopping universal praise was how scared people were it would start a war. That’s currently starting.
Hmm maybe, don’t know much about him personally(but probably do his work) I just remember TV media pundits, especially the so called anti Trump media pundits, having an orgasm on TV over bombing on Syria I think.
Oh, yeah, that one definitely happened. The minute it looked like Trump was gonna play ball on their plans for Syria, the entire foreign policy apparatus stopped giving a shit about anything else he did.
I still remember 2017, when Donald decided to drop the MOAB on Afghanistan and Fareed Zakaria praised him effusively on CNN.
Guess he learned the lesson.
What did Trump say recently? Something like: “I have no need for international law. The only thing that can stop me is my own morality.” (Obviously, the wrong words, because he doesn’t speak that well, but the same meaning.) We all know what his morality is like. He’s OK with fucking little girls, and, possibly, killing them. The only morals he has is doing things to benefit himself.
That’s the neat part. You don’t
Not everybody behaves like it yet, but that ship has sailed!
They’ve been doing that for decades.
Who the fuck would trust America with Donald Trump on charge. Dude lies to he’s suit tailor. That’s how vain he is. Add in the fact that he’s being blackmailed into this and is a pedophile. I wouldn’t trust trump to watch my dog for an hour, let alone nuclear war.
For decades American kids were taught that the Japanese were the lowest of the low because they bombed Pearl Harbor with no warning, also while discussing peace.
Trump would have heard the story over and over as a lad.
Idiots, sniveling toadies, and combinations thereof.
Well, Trump has now dragged us into a World War on behalf of Israel. Meanwhile people in America starve, are homeless, addicted to opiates, and have no jobs and no healthcare. Everything is unaffordable and the American people are hopeless, and now another endless war.
Fuck Trump. America First? America fucking Last…
Oh it is “America first”. Problem is the narcissist-in-chief thinks he is America.
I’m not seeing any reason why a world war would erupt over this. China and Russia are glad that the US has entered into another stupid military mess, they have no reason to actively engage, the US is destroying itself all on its own.
Why does it have to involve the big powers for it to be a world war?
IMO that implies that less powerful countries being in chaos doesn’t matter.
I always thought world war just meant a lot of countries in a related conflict.
Yeah, I don’t know that this will cause a world War, but it does give a pretty nice opening for China to do things it wouldn’t be able to do under normal circumstances. They can attack a, supposedly, belligerent neighbor and say it’s the same thing the US did to Iran, and the US will be tied up with this conflict for an unknown amount of time. World wars don’t start from a single thing. They start from rising tensions across the board. The war with Ukraine and Iran are pieces of a larger conflict.
Despots back each other up and form an alliance network, because an alliance network is the only way to be powerful against the West. This hits their alliance and long term makes their alliance weaker. However Russia is busy, and China is too reliant on exports.
There is no alliance between China and Russia and Iran. Iran is a minor player in this. You are regurgitating Bush “axis of evil” nonsense as if it was actually true. China and Russia doesn’t care about Iran, and they were never allied to them. They benefited from Iran in various ways then, they will benefit in various ways from this US disaster.
Lol you don’t need a formalized alliance like NATO.
Why wouldn’t China invade Taiwan at this point?
Because they’re not a bloodthirsty empire like the US? China hasn’t been at war for over half a century
While the US is distracted on two other fronts (Central America and the Middle East) China can take Taiwan with ease.
Saying this is the start of a World War is such a USA-centric brain dead take. Ukraine war is closer to World War than anything that might happen in Iran will ever be.
I think it is likely that the Ukraine war will be widely considered the beginning of a series of events that will later be labeled “the ramp up to WWIII”, of which this is an indirect extension.
China is likely to attack Taiwan while the U.S. is distracted. Pakistan and India could get into it while there’s no one available to intervene.
US has been distracted many times when they attacked and invaded like a dozen countries since WWII?
Unlike the US, China isn’t governed by a attention-span lacking moron. They want Taiwan, and will not rest until they have it, but they also don’t want a war with the US over it, unless they can be certain to win it. This isn’t it.
Ugh… China is constantly itching while constantly glaring at Taiwan, and (recently) eastern Russia… Distracted 'murica makes braver China
WW started not suddenly, everybody kinda slowly joined the party
US and Israel: literally bombing Iran unilaterally during negotiations
Lemmitor: BUT CHINA BAD!!!
If you can’t connect the dots between Ukraine, Iran, Taiwan, and Venezuela then I simply don’t know what to tell you…
The plan is to mobilise the homeless and jobless into the war
This is the message that needs to get spammed on every liberal and conservative forum, twitter thread, facebook group and subreddit.
We can’t stop trying to associate in their minds the pain and suffering they’re feeling right now, in this moment, with Trump and Israel.
Just desperate enough for the promises of the benefits received by military service to start sounding very appealing.
That’s how they get you
Don’t worry, the AI bubble will probably export unemployment to the rest of the world before it bursts, so everyone can starve
bet 70% of the world already learned how to deal with poverty
Yeah, “America first” just means leaders of America first. The people of America are last.
It proves once again one cannot trust the USA and Israel under their current regimes.
I think those are over.
Shoutout to Evan Vucci who made the photo that heads the article. It encapsulates the whole situation perfectly: The Don behaves predictively like an angry, lying troll, making smugly grinning Netanyahu’s wishes come true.
They really deserve each other. I just wish somebody gave them a sandbox so they wouldn’t have to destroy the world.
I can’t find it rn but an Israeli newspaper was openly stating that “files that could still come to light” finally changed Donny’s mind on Iran. Wouldn’t surprise me tbh. 🤷
I just wish somebody gave them a sandbox so they wouldn’t have to destroy the world
Preferably located somewhere on Venus
Good luck.I hope this hurts you bad.
US: “You can’t enrich uranium!”
Iran: “We reluctantly agree to this term.”
US: Bombs Iran anyway
We live in a clown country 🤡
I would link the meme of Kim Jung Un telling his daughter this is why we have nuclear weapons, but I didn’t save it.
At least they took out that PoS Khamenei
That’s not entirely what happened. Though you do live in a clown country.
After US withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal, Iran did continue to still follow the terms for quite a while in hopes that the US would once again rejoin (presumably).
Then the US assasinated an Iranian general or major, could be mistaken. Either way, they assasinated someone. Iran, shockingly, wasn’t all too impressed and quite upset about the whole ordeal, so they said fuck it… if that’s how you wanna play, we’re gonna do whatever we want.
And then now, you have US and Israel both striking Iran, with the justification that Iran was “about to strike us first”.
Gotta distract from the files and stop the elections somehow, after all. Nice lil twofer for sure.
US: “You can’t enrich uranium!”
Iran: “We reluctantly agree to this term.”
US: “Oh fuck, we were hoping for more resistance, it’s only a cover for stealing your oil.”
Traitor AND yellow bellied sneak attack commie puppet. Nice. “I wish I could give myself one of these medals. I deserve one.” . Four deferments as 4F. Draft dodger. Maybe had he gone he’d have come back an American.
war is peace
peace is war
Invite diplomats for peace talks then start bombing their home while their away. So typical.
Yeah… Funny… That’s what Putler has been doing each time he was invited for peace talks.
Tyranny has the same playbook.
Yeah, it’s like these assholes saw ‘Braveheart’ and rooted for Longshanks.
Bombs speak louder than words
exporting freedom
USA is running a bit low on freedom these days.
For any US soldier reading this thread: you are attacking another country to cover up for your pedophile president.
Copied the script from Wag the Dog
ASAB
Considering the average soldier is likely not the brightest bulb, and not the most morally compassed… Isn’t it likely the only thing stopping the US from invading EU-ish countries, is our skin color?
Tell that to Greenland
God fucking damn it
They are going to rename the PErsian gulf to the American gulf 😂
