Edit: I’ve read all of your comments. I see now that you’re right and man that’s depressing.
Logic and Reasoning as well.
Part of the reason we learn mathematics is to develop logic and reasoning skills. Unfortunately Americans tend to practically brag about being mathematically illiterate.
It isn’t?
In my school it was.
They also taught us the effects of smoking. People still smoked.
Used to be a lottery game dev, now I’m in addition.
This suggestion would do nothing since compulsive behavior is not a choice and it is not rational.
Nah, monkey brain would still think “THIS time I’ll win for sure!”
Wanna bet?
I like those odds.
**Chef’s kiss
IDK, I think we’ve seen adequate evidence that a lot of people out there are unswayed by facts and logic, and many of the ones who can be reasoned with are vulnerable to sophistry, sealioning, and other bad faith propaganda/debate techniques.
Even an informed public seems incapable of making good decisions.
Not as much as you think.
It wasn’t until graduate level statistics until we got into how to tear down bad stats as part of understanding how to make good stats.
Like, even for people who took regular college level statistical analysis, the hardest part of it is still keeping you bias out.
Teach a bunch of high schoolers stats, and they’re gonna think they’re smarter than a gambling app. That leads to more people trying it, and naturally more people getting hooked.
You’re thinking of it as innoculation when it’s more like the first hit for free…
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It’s like how med students think they know more than every doctor they’ve ever seen and diagnosis themselves with a bunch of shit
A little bit of knowledge mixed with teenage confidence and an undeveloped brain doesn’t always result in a positive.
So with something as addictive as gambling, the best way to decrease it is to limit or avoid exposure to gambling until mid 20s when the brain is more likely to be developed.
My brother took intro to counselling, diagnosed himself as suffering with Special Boy disease, everyone else in the family with Evil Syndrome and went off the deep end into a full public mental breakdown, from which our relationship has never recovered.
Reminds me of psych 101 - much of the class thought they had something.
the best way to decrease it is to limit or avoid exposure to gambling until mid 20s when the brain is more likely to be developed.
Considering most videogames have been dopamine hacked with lootcrates and similar. Just like lemmy’s feed, random searching leading to stochastic rewards trigger our hunter gatherer neuro-circuitry the same way gambling does.
No one matures without being tweaked by the more conservative amish and global super-poor.
Sounds a lot like antivacxers screeching everyone gets chickenpox…
It’s taught in our grade schools.
I don’t think you understand addiction and it’s causes if you think it can be mitigated by education alone.
The issue with substance abuse isn’t that people don’t know that nicotine, alcohol or methamphetamine is wildly addictive.
Yeah, it’s common knowledge that the house has an advantage, and they will eventually take all of your money if you continue playing. A doctoral degree is not required,
… they are in my country, at least for people who want to attend a university.
I realize myself that the lottery is a tax on lack of statistical knowledge. I still occasionally play it because if I don’t play, then the probability of winning (and never having to work for money again) is 0, and I can easily afford to occasionally buy a lottery ticket.
This is why probability needs to be taught, and taught properly. This line of logic clearly demonstrates the problem.
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Your expected return from not playing a $5 ticket is exactly $0.00.
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Your expected return from playing a $5 ticket is approximately $-4.99
“Gaining Zero” is vastly preferable to “Losing Five”.
If you can occasionally afford a $5 ticket, you can occasionally afford to buy shares of an index fund. You’re still gambling, but your expected return is positive.
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Your odds of finding the winning ticket on the sidewalk about about the same as buying it. So I walk around once in a while looking for winning tickets. I haven’t found one yet, but who knows. Bonus - I get some much needed exercise in the process.
Where I am the lottery funds a lot of smaller museums and some other community things like that so in my mind when I buy a lottery ticket I’m donating money to those causes rather than just trying to win.
The biggest gambler i know is a VP in accounting. He has been since I met him right outside of college. If anything he does make a lot more reasonable bets and finds loopholes to make the best of his bets. The thing is he keeps a spreasheet for the year to track what he spends and honestly he is almost always ahead by a lot or sometimes break even or slightly under. I have never seen him actually lose so he is a terrible example of having a gambling addiction lol. We all say he is one of the luckiest people we know which also stems from the fact that when we play poker he will almost always hit the statistically low percentage card needed to win and it’s frustrating to say the least.
It would have no effect whatsoever. All of that learning stuff is forebrain function. It’s hard to acquire, and the first thing to go when under stress or intoxicated. People make all kinds of bad decisions when they know better. They splurge on vacations when they are already paying interest on credit card balances. They sleep with strangers while they want to keep a stable home life. They buy too much car or spend to much on clothes for little hits of feel good when they would be better off saving money.
Knowing something doesn’t equate to action. And the impulse to gamble can easily over ride some school lesson on poor odds of winning.
You guys don’t learn probabilities??
90% of the time we do, but sadly 32% of us don’t because they’re lazy and refuse to give 110% at school. 💯
They don’t even teach civics, or how to do taxes. And there’s a constant push from a vocal minority to do less and teach young earth creationism. It’s very stupid here.
Taxes is a combination of a 3rd grade reading level and 3rd grade arithmetic. It literally directs you where to get the values for each box and the most complicated math you have to do is basic addition, subtraction, or multiplication.
Teaching a person how to fill out a 1040 is a complete waste of time especially considering they likely won’t need to fill one out for several years and teaching people all the obscure possible forms is pointless as the tax code changes and it’s only applicable to a small fraction of the class and likely not for 5+ years
I was going to respond by then I checked your overview. You’re a dick. Blocked.
Sometimes I wonder if the problem isn’t the content we cover, but the content people remember. Then again it could just be different districts.
The problem with gambling is that you have to put some trust into whatever you’re gambling on, and that’s already bad because there’s no reason you should be trusting them to begin with since whoever is taking your money obviously doesn’t want to give it back. There is no way to tell that what you are gambling on hasn’t been fixed in some way unless you are on the inside in which case it is usually illegal.
