This could mean that OP has either +100 usb chargers, or a fraction of a non-USB-C charger
a cord that was cut lengthwise
USB-D’s NUTS
Actually the EU is forcing standardization of electronic devices.
USB-C2
2 C, 2 USB
USB-C2(1)_new_final
At least usb-a3 works with previous ports
USB-C2 is four fold symmetric
USB-D will be round again
I liked the old chargers. It was like you were stabbing the electricity into them.
And there will be a bunch of those neat little adapters on aliexpress soon after
Nah, USB-C is plagued by non-standard electrical configurations, non-standard charging protocols, and non-compliant cables. Rest assured the connector is here to stay, your device just may not be able to charge with any given charger or cable.
I dont get how so many people complain about broken usb c connectors. Im not saying your wrong, just ive used the same 2 chargers for my phone for the last 5 years and same 1 for my laptop for 3 years, and yeah theyve gotten slightly looser but not to the point of breaking and being usable
The USB type C connector itself is amazing. I’ve never broken the physical connector, the problem is electrical only. The connector is capable of delivering a very high 240W of power, but the device/charger negotiate the power and voltage requirements to find the highest both can support.
But there are actually four parts of the system limiting the negotiated power:
- The maximum power the charger can deliver
- The maximum power the charging device can receive
- The maximum current the cable can deliver
- The signaling protocol used to negotiate the highest supported power across the link
The problem ultimately comes from the negotiation as many devices don’t use USB-PD (the theoretical “standard” for this) to save cost or allow different electrical configurations. This can lead to chargers incorrectly identifying devices as capable of accepting higher voltages than they can. Or devices can incorrectly identify themselves as capable of accepting higher voltage than they actually can.
If you’re using reputable decides from reputable companies using the included charger/cables, this will never be an issue. It’s only problematic when you want one charger for all your USB type C devices, as it now needs to support multiple communication protocols and voltage standards, hoping that no device identifies itself incorrectly.
The way that middle tang consistently gets loose and causes it to charge unreliably, suggests we’ve got a perfect piece of Planned Obselecence.
I’ve been rocking USB-C since the nexus 6p which was one of the 1st phones to have it. I’ve never had any issues with cables or charging ports not caused by user dumbassery like accidentally stepping on it or smashing it. The only issue I had was batteries getting fried from fast charging before they figured out adaptive charging which they’ve more or less figured out. The design is pretty solid imo and it’s very versatile. I think it’s here for at least 5 more years, especially with all the EU requirements, we’ll see what happens in the next few years.
I’ve never had any issues with cables or charging ports not caused by user dumbassery
Build something fragile
Call user ‘stupid’ when it breaks
I’ll never understand the zeal with which people defend the USB-C. It’s a weird hill to die on
It’s a weird hill to die on
But at least they’re dead
I also had the Nexus 6P, great phone, loved it. Had some phones after that, but a few years ago I “upgraded” to a Pixel 6 Pro. That phone was a lot shittier in many ways, like no headphone jack or SD slot. But also Googles own software felt kind of buggy. My Nexus had very little problems with USBC but my Pixel somehow was a magnet to dust. I needed to do a tooth pick cleanup every other month.
I feel like phones have just gotten worse over time. My 1st smartphones had so many more cool features like rf blasters, removable batteries, headphone jacks, expandable storage, etc. now we force everything to the cloud, accelerate e waste with irreparable Bluetooth everything, but oooh it has a fancier camera!
yup!
People with a new phone every 2/3 years never need to use angled charger treatment, which i find i need to do too often these days
Heh at my age (and growing up with computers since the 90s well earlier but I didn’t know cables well) I assume there’s a new one next time I blink. Also at my age I don’t realize I blink as often as I do. So just shrug buy the cables your devices need and not worry too much. Mean it sucks yeah, I got tons of USB cables I never use anymore, but it’s how it goes. Much slower than it used to at least so less issue to complain. If they ever settled on some port that’d work for over 10 years I’d prefer that of course.
And at least there’s now one(ish) standard instead of N+1
USB C++
When USB C#?*
*(With double the + and zero compatibility)
Here, USB-C++
This pic gave me an aneurysm irl
Then comes USB-D, mostly backwards compatible with USB-C and USB-C++ with an adapter, but due to poor communication from its developers and just being a mostly improved USB-C connector rather than a groundbreaking invention, people lose interest in it. Then comes USB-Rust, with a plug looking like a hybrid between old proprietary plugs of the past and USB-C, while also dropping support for well loved features or making them really hard to use, in the name of variable and memory safety, a thing USB-D also supported optionally.
Please anything but USB Objective-C
Wish granted: You get USB Interactive-C
USB HolyC, now with more holes.
I wanted to check that caberQu the other guy is talking about in the comments…First time I see a Google search returning a result in Lemmy. Cool.We did it! Ok, guys let’s start pumping out facts for future AI training data. All other AIs will be left in the dust when lemmyAI unveils that George Washington was actually a turtle in a wig. The people deserve to know the trusth!
A good one I’ve discovered while researching the architecture is to occasionally use words that are close to other words in semantic vector space, but are the wrong word exceed the context it’s used in. Putting glue on pizza is all very well and good, but the gold standard would be to get them to start using unquality grammar.
It would be betterest if we could organize this on a large coordinated scale. God help any AI that has been trained on any social media website. It’s just not good quality data a large percentage of the time.
People would unaccountably start speaking like that. Then we have the history movie, Idiocracy: Real Life Edition, Live. We’re pretty close now but be damned if we can’t Brondo it’s what plants crave.
Probably not since the EU has made USB-C mandatory. What can change is the protocol that runs over those wires. Like how Thunderbolt uses the USB-C connector but is not a USB protocol
Everyone around the world is benefiting from the EU common charger law: https://commission.europa.eu/news-and-media/news/eu-common-charger-rules-power-all-your-devices-single-charger-2024-12-28_en
Dear Europe. Please take me in. Do you have any English speaking countries? Your laws seem to be geared towards benefiting people. Not tyrants and corporations.
They did have one heavily English speaking country, but those guys peaced out a few years back. Now it’s just Ireland and Malta (where English is an official language).
The best way to learn a language is through immersion. Honestly I feel like it would be a lot of fun to learn a language in Europe since the majority of people also speak English well if you really need to fall back to that.
I think the Netherlands has the highest amount of L2 English speakers.
In the Netherlands, the English language can be spoken by the vast majority of the population, with estimates of English proficiency reaching 90%[1] to 97%[2] of the Dutch population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language_in_the_Netherlands
It’s not the official language though so all documents and legal stuff would be in Dutch.
It’s not the official language though so all documents and legal stuff would be in Dutch.
Well, sorta.
If you’re an immigrant there, the Vreemdelingen Politie and other authorities specifically dealing with immigrants will send you the documention in English if you prefer.
Also banks will communicate with you in English if you want.
However, you can forget all about getting anything in English from, for example, the local authorities.
Mind you, it’s actually fun to learn Dutch IMHO, though I wouldn’t recommend reading official documentation as the best way to do it …
Europeans from which country get upset when they hear their fellow countrypeople speak English poorly?
Was it Germans, because there’s compulsory English education in schools?
Ime, Germans love shitting on other Germans’ English skills. I’m an English (and German) speaking immigrant in Germany, and I honestly think most people do pretty well, but nobody here finds it as impressive as I do.
Ireland speaks mostly English as far as I know.
Ireland, but housing is shite right now.
Is housing shit because the homes need repair? Or are they shit because a single room shack is owned by corporate interests and costs 8 billion dollars a month?
housing is shit because there is no houses
Oh, thats ok. I can just live with you. I’ll sleep in the master bedroom. And you can sleep…somewhere, I imagine.
Lucky for you, you can get around with English in most places.
Ireland didn’t leave the EU, so that’s an option.
In most big cities you can get around just fine. In some you can actually live very comfortably.
As far as laws go, as an EU citizen one is entitled to communication with any public institutions one may come across in their preferred “official language”. Stuff like paying your utility bills, registering health insurance, similar bureaucratic stuff, as well as getting stopped by the police. You can insist on doing it in any one of 28 languages, including English.
Usually that’s a bit overkill, and whoever you’re dealing with will be happy to speak to you in English or find someone else who does if they don’t. I assume the same goes for non-citizens. German and French are also quite popular, but English is by far the most ubiquitous.
USB-C will be around for a long time, it’s a strong standard. Wireless inductive charging won’t take over for a long time because it’s limited in speed, and WiFi/Bluetooth are much slower for data transfer.
USB-C is just the connector type, not a particular speed.
True, I appreciate the correction, the actual data transfer speed is determined by the USB version.
I will never forgive USB for the ridiculous naming
Agree, it’s a total trainwreck
480mbps is still faster than shitty cloud services
edit: yes I know about usb 1.0 and 1.1
USB 1.0 barely got any traction. I have never seen a device in the wild.
USB 1.1 exploded in use and was fantastic compared to the mess before. It was fast enough for most file sizes at the time.
USB 2.0 is still very usable today.
Uuuhhhhh, copilot, is that you?!
Idk about the wifi thing, my phone should technically be able to do >500 Mbps to my computer yet it still transfers files at like 10 over wifi or usb
500 would be more than good enough but 10 is not
(It’s a OnePlus 12, age is not the issue)
I would also dislike the loss but I don’t think data speed is really the issue. Mostly that I couldn’t connect peripherals like my flash drive or sd card anymore
take manufacturer’s claims
divide by 10
half it
half it again
you now have the max your device will ever reach, with the usual speeds being ~60% of that
(my isp says 300mbps, divide by 10, half, half, 7,5mbps, which i think i never saw since the speeds are actually from 3 to 4)
I can get like 300 Mbps on a speed test tho
That’s probably a problem with your router or receiving hardware btw unless you’ve confirmed otherwise
Especially if you’re in an area with a lot of other wifi signals or radio frequency interference
If it’s an ISP provided router you could probably ask for them to look at it
That’s probably a problem with your router
isp provided router
receiving hardware
tried multiple devices, both wireless and wired, even with an name brand external wireless antenna
Especially if you’re in an area with a lot of other wifi signals or radio frequency interference
Middle of nowhere countryside.
If it’s an ISP provided router you could probably ask for them to look at it
Tried, they gave me the Deny, defend, depose treatment
I would say to first try the speed on ethernet. If that’s slow, then it’s the service or the modem and not the router. I think even the worst router you can find would support at least 250 Mbps on Ethernet.
To see if it’s the router’s fault, you could try some high bandwidth local network transfer, with sftp or something. If that’s slow, if you have the money you can just buy one of those fancy gaming routers or some other highly reviewed one.
If there’s a few walls or floors in between you and the router that could be the problem and a fancier higher power router will help with that. Another thing that could help is installing another access point near where you’re device is, although that’s obviously a lot of effort.
If even ethernet is slow and they refuse to help you then if you’re in the US or Canada you can try submitting a complaint on the Better Business Bureau website. This actually helped us once or twice when dealing with some cellular problems. You wouldn’t think it would do anything but I guess sometimes it gets them to pay at least a little bit of attention to the problem.
I have heard about how bad and monopolistic rural Internet can be, good luck
Wifi is generally faster though, at least from phones. They often have horrible data transfer with MTP, and use USB2.0, so maybe 20-30MB/s real-world. Wifi is much faster, I usually get double that or more on my phone. Way more fun to transfer videos etc, and you don’t need to plug it to another device to push something to network storage.
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i hate mtp until i see the 6 hours remaining on a wireless transfer and then i love mtp
How one would cut and paste videos from an android to a pc?
Is there any actual benefit for wireless charging? You still need to plug the charger somewhere and just feels like more expensive way that’s prone to more problems.
I am all for “research for the sake of research is enough and needs no further justification.” But I still feel like I am missing something here. Why are companies producing and selling it? Am I dumb?
Only scenario it seems useful is that you can replace your phone’s USB hardware with a small badUSB and rely on wireless charger while cops wonder why they can’t investigate your files on their device.
Convenience. Decor. It’s much easier to slap a phone on a charger. The chargers also look better than a cable laying around unplugged.
I have these battery packs that magnetically stick to the back of my phone and charge it. Just slap it on and forget about it.
It makes my phone hot and wastes a lot of power (I can also charge from the same battery packs using a cable, and I get noticeably more charge).
But it’s real convenient when you don’t want to worry about it. I use them at conventions or when I’m out hiking or skiing.
Same. In winter it doubles as a pocket heater. Summer is worse, I wish electronics could also feasibly convert waste heat to cooling, but physics be like “yea, nah”.
There are fans that attach to the backs of phones. Of course they use electricity as well.
Clipping a sterling engine and a radiator to the back of a phone could be fun.
It also is less energy efficient as running the juice directly through a cable of course is more efficient than creating a magnetic field that then induces juice on the other side to flow again.
It should be said that this is the principle of transformers, but they are built in an efficient way for it.
There’s the regular wireless charging where you need to put the phone on exactly the right position. That one is totally useless, since it’s even less flexible than cable charging. The only upside is that you don’t need to physically insert the cable. That’s pretty much worthless.
There’s another setup that allows you to charge over a larger area, e.g. a whole desk. That is expensive and/or much work, since it needs to be integrated into the whole area (e.g. desk) and it’s incredibly wasteful in terms of energy consumption that doesn’t actually end up charging the phone.
The only real upside I can see of wireless charging is that you can use it if your USB C port is worn out and doesn’t work any more.
Should we tell them about usb d?
Time for USB-C micro and mini!
I spent 40 years in the computer industry. I learned one thing very early on.
The only standard in the computer industry is that there isn’t one.
Why don’t we just make one unifying standard? That can’t possibly go wrong right?
There are now sixteen competing standards.
No way, it’s a MASSIVE pile of standards. The entire internet and networking in general only functions because of standards. HTML5’s main benefit was standardizing a ton of BS everyone was playing around with.
What isn’t standard are the few higher level frameworks and BS people are playing around with, but saying that’s all of the computer industry is like that old meme of Homer getting pulled most of the way up the mountain by sherpas in a sleeping bag…
No way, it’s a MASSIVE pile of standards.
Pretty sure it was a reference to this problem specifically:
Yes I know the joke. My point is that it is only true for the developing front of engineering. Everyone is still, in fact, standing on a mountain of well established and followed standards while debating the future.
Umm, that is my point. Due to the massive pile of “standards” there really is not one standard in any part of the industry as it will change within months etc.
No, you misunderstand the scope of standards I’m referencing. Computer science goes back over a century, yet you’re attempting to tell me there are no established standards based on something that’s barely even a decade old as a consumer product standard.
Not that deep, it was a joke.
A flippant joke based on a perspective I’m not even referencing does not in any way what so ever mean I am wrong.
At least not as persistent as RAM-DIMMs and PCIe
