Anything but trying to solve the underlying problems. Bonus: someone makes bank.
There’s literally no number of children that can die before reasonable action is taken.
It’s not the number that matters, it’s whose kids it is getting killed. If someone were to shoot up a school filled with politicians’ kids you’ll see some change rapidly.
🤔 maybe
They sometimes are in normal schools, just under pseudonyms or not aiming for too much attention.
Doesn’t really change the fact that it’s more about whose child it is getting killed. They don’t care til it happens to them, the fucking GOP in a nutshell… Even then, significant change for the better is a crapshoot at best.
I suppose it is better than thoughts and prayers… but avoiding addressing the root cause is all politicians do.
Pray for your drone overlords to suicide bomb the mentally disturbed with too many guns before it’s too late!
I actually saw a news segment on the demo, and they said they would be thrilled if they were able to put these in every classroom and never have to use it. Im sure you would, buddy…
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I grew up in a racist environment and parroted what was around me most of my young life. It’s all I knew, I didn’t change until I experienced the world and broadened my world view. Many of these “bigots” are ignorant and exploited. They are not evil people that should be eliminated. Your way of intolerance is the same type of ignorance you claim to hate. Dehumanizing any person or group as below you and therefore justify violence against is the worse part of society and the thing that needs to be cured. Racism is just one facet of that beast.
First - you are right.
Second - questioning dogma is always virtuous, even if the dogma is “people of race A are not worse or better than people of race B”, the fact of questioning itself doesn’t cause anything bad, while banning that from being questioned also bans the similar or associated statements, and similarity\associations are subjective.
Third - the reason our world is in such shit is that it became commonly shunned to question authority and normalized to fear authority. Because common set of moral principles is authority too. Where in 1960s (segregation and much more liberal gun laws in places like USA, no voting rights for women in places like Switzerland, former Nazis everywhere feeling nice and joking about it in public in places like Germany, literal colonial wars, normalized racism and so on) it was normal, at least in books and movies, to question any person, in suit or not, demanding anything from you, and asking for some legal substantiation. Even in the bloody USSR. In our days in TV and books and imagined universes and in reality asking “why should I do that” is treated as a mutiny.
We live in a world where it’s forbidden to ask “by which right”.
At least in societies pretending to be civilized this was considered a thing of the past after WWII. Not that it didn’t exist. Now it’s normal, people look at you with hostility for saying the obvious about preemptive obedience and such.
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How long until someone hacks one and terrorizes a school that way?
Between this and AI generated apps, hacking is sooo back
If this gets any visibility, I do have some familiarity with the weapon on board.
They call it a “pepper spray bomb” but more accurately pepper spray is generally not what your want because it sticks to walls. The “pepper” in the spray is an oil and imagine cleaning an oil off walls and stuff. If it gets into ventilation you will be breathing it for a week afterward.
No, what’s on board these is probably Pava Powder. Think Baby Powder, but s p i c y. Pava has many of the same reactions as pepper sprays, coughing, watery eyes etc. But it works better IN enclosed areas like hallways and enclosed spaces. Prisons love this stuff for incidents bigger than like 3-5 people. It can be packed into a paintball, and works in normal paintball guns (it also comes in a 40mm grenade featuring timed release!) Pava is much easier to clean, you just have to have good ventilation, as it will dissipate normally. It also doesnt trigger allergies like pepper spray can, and all it takes is a nice shower to wash yourself of it. Its really a great choice for the intended settings in which it is often deployed.
In a mobile form like drones, I can’t see the drone loading more than 10 balls due to weight, and if you’ve ever been paintballing you’d know 10 ain’t shit. A normal paintball hopper holds about 80, and for pava powder you need to score a fair number of hits or just paint a hallway with them to reach effective saturation. If each drone can hold 20-30 maybe it becomes feasible. It only takes a couple to actually do the work, but in a prison theres nowhere to run. You sit and take that accumulation. But school hallways can be 14 feet wide or more and a shooter has access to the entire building, so any misses simply…miss and begin saturating an area the shooter is leaving.
The alarm on the drone giving the shooters position away is a great touch.
Thats the fact side of things, opinion wise? Man we will do anything but fix the problems. These drones and pava are a great uh…answer for the locale, but it doesnt answer why you have a problem you need a prison grade solution. Pava dissipates into the air and its not that hard to begin to choke on your own breath. A deployment of these will give away the positions of students in adjacent rooms to the shooter. And you can fight it (you can fight pepper pray too), it’s just a matter of willpower to fight through choking air. It also guarantees a shooter will attempt to relocate in the building to outrun the pava clouds. Unless theres a way to quickly reload these drones in their ceiling mounts, the low ammo count is going to get them to fire around the halls, and will be more of a deterrent and could be effective at getting a shooter to stay away from populated rooms than actually subduing them and getting them to surrender. The alarm however i like at face value acting as a clear warning for where the shooter is at that moment. A drone following the shooter giving their position away is a fantastic solution if we aren’t going to address actual shootings.
7/10 nonlethal solution, with some side effects. I like the idea but the obvious workarounds like a mask, and causing entire rooms to start coughing and alerting the shooter to empty/full rooms, on top of the shooter wildly taking shots at the ceiling to kill an alarming drone causes a host of additional issues. For the pricetag the school could hire like 3 off-duty cops who do their job when a shooter arrives. So thats also a factor. We could also like…address mental health issues or access to firearms but this is America where we pray for evil things to stop rather than actually adressing it so, that wasn’t an answer anyway
the only things this shit is going to do is waste money and prevent law enforcement from entering schools in a timely manner. They would just start sitting back and letting the drones “secure the area” before they move in. It would do a lot to help cops be bigger pussies than they already are though.
It does open the door for excuse making, and i wouldn’t be surprised to find out the maker of the drones has a lobbyist “suggesting” their brand to this school and then pocketing the half million.
https://www.transparencyusa.org/tx/lobbying/client/mithril-defense-inc
mithril defense is the company that makes the drones
Saint Luigi don’t fail me now
Why do people having nothing at all to do with Tolkien’s values pick up his names?
It is similar to why cowards like to talk about honor?
prevent law enforcement from entering schools in a timely manner
But law enforcement doesn’t enter schools with active shooters. It turns out, law enforcement doesn’t have any obligation to protect the public at all (legally).
High speed LETHAL Drones flying through schools DOESNT effect Children! DRAG Queens EXISTING does!
You nailed it. True patriots understand that this country will never be free until people of any gender identity can legally operate high-speed jetpacks in schools.
What a shithole country.
what a great use of tax dollars. I’m sure the super rich asshole who owns this drone company has no personal relationship with with the legislators supporting this BS whatsoever.
Of course you’re right to be sure of that. Their wife, however, or their school buddy…
can fly through double-paned glass
um, how
Also I wonder how long it will take before this tech gets used for situations other than mass murder events
They have a “glass breaking lance” on the front
They’re armed with a 300 blackout rifle they can shoot through the glass
When will they hit a student? It’s not a matter of if, but when. This is so fucking idiotic.
I mean it fires pepper spray bombs. Even when it does its job correctly, and hits an assailant, it is a wide area weapon that takes time to dissipate, particularly in an enclosed space. It will almost certainly effect other people to some degree, including those fleeing.
I don’t have a problem with pepper bombs being autonomously fired on an armed assailant, in itself, by which I mean it’s better than an autonomous pistol firing slugs into “assailants”. I would even accept some minimized-as-much-as-possible risk that it incorrectly targets the wrong person with pepper spray if they are not in immediate danger. The problem will be when the pepper bombs slow down those fleeing or divert them towards the gunman or leave someone incapacitated and unable to flee or sense danger, and hinder emergency response teams, school staff, or other individuals trying to rescue kids. A clever gunman with a gas mask could even use the drones to corral victims into easy targets. It’s just not a reliable fix to the problem and creates opportunities for whole new problems.
Well, Texas cops aren’t gonna do it…
Fair enough. Maybe we could close the police department and just have drones.
And we’re ignoring that radio control is a vulnerable technology
Or that someone could shoot the drone.
When I was a kid I used to joke about school being a prison.
This was back when doors weren’t locked during the day and when a friend of mine took a joke hand grenade to school it was confiscated and he was told to pick it up at the end of the day and don’t do that again.
Schools have been asymptotically approaching prisons to the point where they will be indistinguishable in the near future.
Agreed. Fuck this shit.
My kids’ school is surrounded by a giant chain link fence.
Solve societal.problems leading to higher levels of violence? Nah, let’s just lock the kids up during the day - it’s for their own protection.
Something is very fucking wrong with people who want to solve our problems this way. Don’t let them pretend this is normal or how this shit should he handled. What the fuck are we doing?
Something is very fucking wrong with people who want to solve our problems this way. Don’t let them pretend this is normal or how this shit should he handled. What the fuck are we doing?
It’s just psychology.
Suppose you are a bunch of pedophiles and murderers making laws.
You don’t want the societal mechanisms against pedophiles and murderers to reach you, but the society has a desire to do to p/ and m/ or against them a certain set of things. So they optimize by doing those things to the opposite part of the society.
The society would want to know what politicians do - they make surveillance against everyone but themselves.
The society would want to thoroughly deal with the pedo problem, preferably IRL where it happens - they direct everything connected to fighting pedos on the communications and the Internet.
The society would want accountability for hierarchy and fewer levers for pressure given to people in important positions, - they make the mandates as fuzzy as possible and create limitations for doing anything outside of hierarchy.
The society would want children to not be taught to obey and fear, and everyone to have privacy, because only in privacy you can say everything you’d want, - they try to turn everything into a surveilled prison camp.
The society would want to be able to answer violence with violence, - they make draconian laws against all kinds of resistance.
The society would want legal clarity, - they try to reduce clarity as much as possible.
It’s basically a bunch of people who should be in jail trying to put in jail everyone else purely out of spite. Who are criminals by too many laws, trying to make legal practice as unpredictable and illogical as possible.
Not a new thing really, like people involved in drugs trade getting into institutions for fighting drugs trade.
My school was the same thing as a prison since it was sped ed back in 2005, public schools had it lucky.
I just hope your constitution protects drone rights.
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a drone swarm is a good guy with a drone swarm.
Murrka yippekayeee mothafucka or something like that (never been on that continent).
And drones should have the right to bear arms.
I dunno, the right to bear one arm releasing a grenade is honestly enough
Yes more weapons instead of tougher laws on existing weapons.
Ooo banana!
I can still hear her screams …
