The vast majority of Israelis say they are not troubled by reports of famine and suffering in Gaza, a new poll released by the Israel Democracy Institute shows.

The survey shows that 79 percent of Jews in Israel were not troubled, or troubled at all, whereas 86 percent of “Arab” respondents were somewhat or very troubled by the reports about the war on Gaza.

The survey was conducted between 27-31 July.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    Most of y’all weren’t bothered by the reports of all the bombing, pillaging and starvation the US caused my country, but that’s in the past right? The ancient past known as 1984 but Americans will just say “that want me”

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    Remember when the US beat the Nazis? This is exactly like that, but instead imagine we sent the Nazis billions of dollars and weapons to enable them.

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      Don’t mistake government-controlled or government-aligned media propaganda with the actual civilian populace.

      Would you trust Netanyahu’s allies to put out fair, representative journalism about what is important to the general population?

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      Russia said the same exact thing about Ukraine… maybe this is not a wise option in general.

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          Russia accused them of a genocide in Donbass.

          The point is that trying to rebuild countries is usually a very bad idea, especially by force. Germany and Japan after WWII are very rare examples in history.

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            Yet showed no evidence. We have thousands of hours of footage for evidence against israel. Stupid comparison.

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              Lemmy users are against violence and imperialism, except when it aligns with their ideology, and then they become the most bloodthirsty bunch. No morals, no principles, no values. You can’t stomp out extremism with violence. The US tried to do it with Iraq and failed, Russia tried to do with Chechnya and failed, India tried to do it with Pakistan and failed, hell, Israel itself is trying to do that with Hamas and failing. Could it be that you can’t get rid of extremism with tanks and missiles? Could it be that you can’t fight abstract concepts like ideologies physically? The answer is obviously, no, you can’t as history clearly shows.

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            Congratulations to israel for making the very rare examples list then.

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              What the brainless users here are suggesting is going to turn Israel into Afghanistan or Iraq, not into Japan or Germany. It’s been proven that country building just leads countries to become more extreme, and that shouldn’t be the goal.

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    Israel is full of religious fanatics who would happily kill everyone on this planet. Have you heard of Operation Samson?

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    Israel is a extremely racist nation and Palestinians are just “human animals” and even “vermin” to most Israelis.

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    When I went to Israel last time I was genuinely surprised how many zealots there are. Most Israelis you meet outside of the country are just normal people but Israel itself is still full of mentally deranged. Religion is a hell of a drug.

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      If you really mean Israelis outside of Israel and not just Jewish people, that’s probably just code shifting. They know their opinions aren’t acceptable outside their bubble, so they keep quiet. It’s the same way a white supremacist will talk differently if they think any random white guy shares their views vs when an imposing minority is in the room.

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        I think it’s a little different. The Israelis who actually live or travel outside of Israel tend to usually be the educated, open minded ones. They’re usually the ones who want a two state solution and oppose wars. The whackos tend to stay in Israel. Not all Israelis are whackos, but all the Israeli whackos stay in Israel. It’s kind of like how the Americans who travel or live abroad tend to be liberal, but the MAGA types never even leave the country.

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          So how come there are tons of Israeli groups abroad from Israel who push zionist propaganda?

          They need to renounce their bullshit faith or be ready to take in the backlash. It’s all made up (all religions), anyway, and if one can’t see that they really don’t deserve to procreate on this earth

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            I mean some do and some don’t. It’s the same as any other nationality. Israelis aren’t a monolith.

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      The reason for this is that Israel has a lot of ultra orthodox Jews, and they can be pinpointed as THE source of the insanity inside the country. They don’t contribute economically, they’re always calling for wars and violence but they refuse to participate in the military, they throw tantrums when anything doesn’t go their way, and they’re always trying to coerce society to be more religiously extreme.

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        Yeah it’s so disappointing to see a culture being held hostage by extremists. It’s almost like west Asia can never fucking escape these zealots ruining it for everybody.

        As someone wirh west Asian roots I wonder how incredible the region would be without religion.

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    Yes, poll after poll has shown this. Israelis by and large are behind the genocide. They’re okay with it they approve of it and they like it. They’re not being forced to murder an entire people. They’re gleeful about it.

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    Middle East Eye is a notorious propaganda outlet, especially on this conflict. I would take anything they say with a grain of salt, including their interpretations of polls and surveys. I personally recommend everybody here to actually look at the original source and the same information referenced directly from there. The survey cited in this article is pretty extensive, and I think it’s worth taking a look at:

    https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357

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      So exactly what the article states. Jewish Israelis do not believe mass starvation of Palestinians matters.

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        That’s not the point of my comment. I’m saying it’s best practice in general to consume and spread information directly from the original source. That way you’re more likely to get the info as is instead of having it be filtered or modified in certain way by a middleman outlet.

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      Sir, this is Lemmy. Get your information hygiene out of there!

      …Seriously though, subtle rewording makes a huge difference:

      The majority of Jewish respondents think that, given the circumstances of the fighting in Gaza, Israel is making efforts to avoid causing suffering to the Palestinian population there. The majority of Arab respondents think that even with the restrictions imposed by the fighting, Israel could have done more to reduce this suffering. Among Jews, only on the Left is there a majority who think that Israel is not making the necessary efforts to reduce suffering.

      On a personal level, the majority in the Center and on the Right (Jewish respondents) say that they are not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza. On the Left, the majority reported that they are personally troubled by these reports.

      The majority of the Jewish public believes the IDF’s reporting on the extent of Palestinian civilian casualties in Gaza

      In other words, Jewish respondents believe Israel is making efforts to avoid suffering, not that they approve of the suffering, and the national mood is very low.

      Propaganda works.

      So do clickbait tabloid headlines.

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        Sorry bud, the original source doesn’t make Israelis look better.

        Israelis think that because they believe the IDF. You literally just read the first paragraph and are acting like the responsible one doing real research.

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          because they believe the IDF.

          Exactly.

          They believe what they’re told. But the headline makes it seem like they’re cheering on starvation in front of their eyes.

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            They’ve been on social media cheering it on since 2023. Civilians/reservists have been forming human chains to block humanitarian aid that WAS allowed to go in. This isn’t a shocking new development, it is what has been explicitly stated, expressed, and demonstrated for multiple years now.

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      This is the type of unhinged take that shouldn’t be welcomed in discourse. The reason why people are critical of Israel or Russia or Saudi Arabia or Iran or whatever is because they’re not bothered enough by the death and suffering. The whole point is to get them to deradicalize as a society so they won’t dehumanize other people. We went to bring them to the level everybody else is at, radicalizing ourselves to dehumanize them, that’s just making the problem worse.