Meanwhile, dozens were injured by Iranian strikes in Israel, as Tehran targeted a nuclear site.
Donald Trump threatened Iran in a Truth Social post Saturday evening, warning that the U.S. would target the nation’s power plants if the Strait of Hormuz remained closed.
“If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST!” Trump wrote in the post.
Approximately 20% of the world’s oil passes through the the Strait of Hormuz, a critical trade route. Iranian attacks on ships in the area have seen the area essentially close to maritime traffic, while oil prices have soared globally.
Guess I‘ll hold off watching news and quietly enjoy the little pre WW3 peace time I have.
Imo ww3 is going to bring me peace.
I bought a baseball glove to catch the bombs.
do it pussy
strength doesn’t need threats, pussy.
very putin-like of him. impotent dictators outclassed by the problems they caused and pretending they have been fighting a war with one hand tied behind their back and unless they are able to give orders to their enemies they will unleash their true power is one of the most pathetic things.
You cant escalate if you are already at war and already committing war crimes.
What even was the official objective of this war in the first place
Depends on the hour you asked that question, plus some alignments of planets and what crystals are doing, least from anything I can tell. Yet the US is letting him go ahead, huh. So whatever works for the US I guess.
They have a concept of an objective
Armageddon.
Barring that, eternal warmongering for profit.War
To facilitate the Greater Israel Project
To facilitate US Imperialism’s and Israel’s greater domination of the region.
our war objective is to do whatever israel tells us to do.
Was Israel’s only objective, and therefore Trump cabinet/negotiators objectives. So far, war has just made Iranian people more enthusiastic about IRGC’s dominance in the conflict. Electricity failure in the mildest month of the year won’t change that, and there are rapid electricity restoration (solar) solutions.
GCC is faced with a survival threat for their demonic, either secret initial war support or the gaslighting of ever escalating escalation against Iran. Iran has offered peace with GCC even as they are backed into executing their total annihilation. There is an important global community private communications with US channel path, even as anti-Iran public comments continue, that can try to convince Trump of declaring victory while accepting real defeat, which lets world reopen Gulf without US interference.
No joke but to bring about the biblical end times, Trump is just a useful idiot to the folks with money and bad intentions.
Again, going after civilian infrastructure targets rather than military ones. And who gets the contract to rebuild this infrastructure? This douche bag is gonna start a world war because him and his friends will get rich building the bombs, using the bombs, and rebuilding the shit they themselves have blown up. Blown up for the sole reason to make a lot of really rich people even richer. We are all so fucked… Humans, man.
There is a bit of comfort in the thought that he will be dead soon. With his health and lifestyle, it can’t be far off. Not soon enough but…
It’s not humans that are the problem, it’s specific individuals that are the problem. Basically it’s like 12 people.
Nah, it’s power that’s the problem, it goes to your head. The species has a problem with sharing and caring. Not all of us, true. But a whole lot of us, yes.
I really, REALLY hate this timeline.
Trump, you still don’t get it. There is no incentive to comply.
Civil Energy infrastructure.
War crimes are cool and easy to do
Merry war crimes
Can’t wait for my War Crimesmas present next year!
“Stop making a oil crisis or we’ll make it even worse!”
Stop making an oil crisis (that we started) or we will continue to make it even worse
>start war against country controlling 20% of oil >20% of oil is jeopardised >
Ha, never new Pikachu design was based on Cleese!
The US seems to want us to be extremely focused on one small part of their war - the Strait of Hormuz. It’s all they ever harp on about.
What’s the situation across the rest of the theatre? How close is the US to accomplishing it’s primary war goals?
Why do they suspiciously want us to ignore everything else and focus on this one international shipping transit lane?
US here. Uh…can you share what those war objectives are? We have not been told
Assuming they’re the same as Venezuela:
- Armed coercion to discourage nation-state dissent against the Great Leader of America
- A way to end “Trump I”-era sanctions without losing face.
- A way to find new “donors” to Trump’s bank account.
The reason why this failed, was that the dictator’s successor in this instance refused to cooperate with Trump.
Also: Shut down Iran’s nuclear weapons development that accelerated after “Trump I” pulled the US out of the deal that was keeping it in check.
I think it’s quite simple, the blockade is causing oil prices to spike which is seemingly the only thing the public in the US actually considers a problem about the whole war. Opening the strait would stop that and would allow them the continue without getting absolutely destroyed in the midterms.
Problem is, to defend their side of the strait, the US has to redeploy their defenses from places like Korea, Taiwan and Ukraine, which weakens their global position in these regions.
But yes, the US public couldn’t care less as long as it doesn’t affect them.
They’ve changed all the goalposts and now it’s destroying civilian infrastructure and manufacturing.
This seems to have more truth and credibility to it than american politics and media. It’s also what Peter theil talks about. When they say people are the antichrist, they are talking about the people that are against these religious extremist wars. And it seems to also align with the Christian nationalism marketing etc… humanity is being played out for ancient psychopath ideologies. While it’s all just vague connections being connected it still seems more honest than what we are groomed for.
the Strait of Hormuz. It’s all they ever harp on about.
It’s called the Strait of Epstein Distraction now.
Thanks for ruining the world, Americans. Holding you all responsible for this.
Lol oh boy you have a lot to learn about Israel. TL;DR Ghislane Maxwell is a god
Where are you from buddy? I bet your leaders have done some bullshit. People aren’t responsible for their government necessarily.
no country was ever as bad as the us
Ha, spoken like someone with no historical knowledge. The conservative romans were fucking pricks like the republicans dyed in wool for instance. Tamerlane? Shiiiiiit.
take responsability you prick.
did the romans enslave the entire global south?
are they threatening global nuclear winter and food shortages?
fucking no. you sort of people is the reason we all hate usians. stop making excuses.
Sorry I didn’t overthrow the most powerful empire on earth, just lazy I guess! Eat a dick.
you and your wretched culture literally elected a fascist to power.
Unlike the workers paradises of Russian and China? Ha ha, eat a dick.
But Democrats equally bad or something.
…they all get played out by wealthy corrupted people. It’s the entire culture that’s fucked up.
Oh come on.
This is his second term. I’m not going to give free pass to trump voters, third party voters, and non-voters.
I’m not gonna give a free pass to the spineless conservative Democratic voters who were so afraid of rocking the boat that they refused to help change its course. Neoliberal ideologues and anti left fear mongering kept the party divided, and it’s not like the left wing of the party were the ones unwilling to compromise. AOC played ball to have influence in the party, voting rights activists endorsed voter ID laws to try to compromise with Republicans, yet it didn’t matter because they were always the ones who were expected to give something up. The right wing of the party used the spectre of needing to compromise with fascists to bend the progressive to heel, and they couldn’t even win over the people on the right they were trying to appeal to.
The sad part is they doomed the party in 2020 when they voted for Biden because they wanted to “return to sanity.” That was the last opportunity to right the ship, but because Bernie was still too radical despite the conservative losing in 2016, people voted for the “safe” picks in droves. It didn’t even matter what the lower levels of the party demanded, as Biden refused to hold an open primary because he saw 1 win as a mandate for 2.
So no, it’s not just the non-voters or third party voters who are responsible, but the rank and file Democrats who fumbled the game. Even the progressives should’ve been more demanding. People were still unaware of how bad things could get; unaware that left wing populism wasn’t just an idealistic dream, but the necessary weapon for defeating right wing populism.
Yeah they did so much to stop this in the last 50 years right right?
Maybe not equally but they will need to take a good chunk of responsibility for this.
Americans saw his first term, his attempts to bomb Iran were thwarted back then.
Americans watched as he tried to steal the 2020 election.
Americans and democrats had 4 years to punish him for this.
What did Americans do? They gave him an even bigger mandate in 2024.
Assuming the 2024 election was valid, this is an American-wide problem. You’ve all got to own this and you’ve all got to be the ones to do something about it.
It’s pointless as enough people are encouraged by influence ops to support the dems to run opposition. And their leadership is doomed to fail. Fuck this country, straight to hell, waiting for the phoenix.
Phoenixes rise from something burned to ashes. Not from something turned to shit. Sorry.
Shit does burn after it dries. Or after held in anaerobic conditions it produces methane. So the analogy still kind of works.
That said, plato catalogued greek republics and noticed a pattern they all followed, and all have since, it’s just a matter of time. A monarch is overthrown and a republic instituted. That republic in time decays through stages of oligarcic repression, although he breaks it down into specific stages, and in time, a true leader emerges, and rallies the people, and lays waste to the oligarchy, and becomes a sort of king again, which in time decays and a republic overthrows them and starts the cycle anew.
At a point, destroying the oligarchy is worth any cost. We are at that point. The current president is not caesar, but sulla, another stage of oligarchic repression, until a real leader emerges to lay waste to the oligarchy. The time is nigh, and epstein is the key.
That’s a lot of words and thout put into what is ultimately just hopeful coping.
You are an anti intellectual.
Unfortunately it is now a world-wide problem. What are you going to do about it?
Protect myself as best I can financially from the coming recession. Little else I can do. Thankfully I live in a country with decent worker rights and benefits systems so even if I lose my job I should be able to bounce back. Not like capitalist dystopian USA.
I’m American, so I’m going to stream the latest hot marvel movies and pay taxes to kill people so I can continue to be a worthless thoughtless human being.
I resist.
With all of the Russia mentions in this thread, sometimes falling out of a window is pro democracy.
As a Native American who doesn’t even have a voting member of congress please go fuck yourself. White people are doing this and white people didn’t come from America.
Wait, Indigenous people in the US cant vote for a senator?
Neither do Puerto Ricans, Guamanians, American Samoans, or Virgin Islanders. Congressional representation is a bad joke, and the house hasn’t expanded seats since 1910 which greatly privileges representation for smaller population states.
The Reapportionment Act of 1929 was a bullet to the head for representational democracy in the United States. It just took nearly a hundred years for us to realize how fatal the wound was.
We were promised our own representatives that we still don’t have. As you may be able to imagine, the white people who are elected state wide don’t always have the best interests of Native peoples in mind.
No shit, in case you haven’t noticed, the “white” people elected don’t have the best interests of white people in mind either. You are barking up the wrong tree, this is a class war, and we are losing.
Hard to win if you don’t do anything other than SLAMMING them.
Whatcha mean? This makes no sense to me. Or I suspect to anyone with sense unless I misunderstand your seeming point.
Yeah Im Canadian and Indigenous rights are not respected here either but fuck, at least they can vote.
Natives can vote in the US. The republicans have tried to make it harder because they vote against them.
Don’t forget that ICE is kidnapping and trying to deport Native Americans.
The mask is off, they aren’t pretending. We shouldn’t either. We need to respond.
The natives are especially valuable for environmental issues, as their treaties dicatate rights, and they are on the right side of all such issues. But the fed courts are going to hell so that is ending.
where… uhh… do they try to deport them? holy shit.
Native Americans can vote in state and national elections and are supposed to be represented in Congress by the senators and representative of the state they live in, but they are not represented directly by a native with equal standing and their land and rights are usually not a priority for their legislators or states they live in.
You do realize like half of white people are on your side?
My comment was directed specifically at the person I was responding to. Obviously being an ally is a choice not helped or hindered by one’s own ethnicity, creed, religion, sexuality, etc.
I help fund it! I killed a bunch of people with my tax money, and I go about my day with extreme privilege, arrogance, naivety, and ignorance of the honest reality of what it means to be a human being.
🇺🇸🦅
How are people not realizing there’s a narrative, a class of corrupted people, and psychological manipulation to keep us submissive? And it very well could have been an ideology preexisting America’s founding.
This culture is a lie.
And all the Russians are responsible for Putin and his war crimes.
Tomorrow you wake up American. You are the same person, nobody asked your permission, you had no say in the matter, but you are within the borders of America, are a citizen, and have no other citizenship. In fact, because you are American, no country will take you, and even if they would, it would take years up emigrate.
What do you do?
The intro for The Sopranos plays…
Woke up this morning…
More than Americans have, presumably. All this US apologia is fucking hilarious, you guys elected a pedophile. Fuck off with this “not all americans” bullshit. Do something about it, or youre a pedo protector, simple as. If you dont like the entire world hating you, dont commit evil shit as a country.
To be clear, i am American. We all deserve every bit of hate the world can muster.
Where are you from with your holier than thou talk?
They literally said they are American, so you can safely assume the USA.
I don’t believe him, as his opinion is shit.
I couldnt respond earlier as my app wouldnt load the comment, i had assumed a mod delted my comment. But its here now!
Of course my opinion is shit, im American.
Me too! Way to Lean Into The Stereotype!
You don’t think US Americans can have shit opinions? Let alone not be more likely to be shit? What world are you living in?
This is some .ml prick.
Somewhere with very low literacy evidently
And the Israelis too. Don’t be so harsh on yourself taking all the blame ;)
I feel like people should be able to muster up extra hate for each country that needs it. Hopefully your hatred for one doesnt reduce your hatred for the other.
Don’t worry, except for US&A, Russia and Israel (which get some extra hate) I hate everyone else just the same;)
the first paragraph adds context for that.
You guys coming at me like ICE, never had to vouch for my citizenship before XD
You know the last 2 characters of my previous comment show that I’m not really serious?
I’m confused, are you American or not?
It seems like you wrote most of the comment being not an American (emphasis added):
More than Americans have, presumably. All this US apologia is fucking hilarious, you guys elected a pedophile.
…then you said you were an American.
It’s fine if you’re not an American. But just engage in good faith please.
They give us entertainment and lifestyles that are planned, focus groups, and created to psychologically make us disassociate from the reality of humanity.
It’s not even a conspiracy anymore. And when I say they I mean the corrupt class and the American dreamers that think because they are attaining success from a taught career that makes them somehow believe they are on the right side of history.
I swear to god Americans aren’t even human anymore. They are cattle, products and consumers. They are the equivalent of the people fent bending on the sidewalk except they are culturally accepted. It doesn’t matter if you have success here… You could be a celebrity, chief of police, a family dad, a politician… It doesn’t equal being someone worth respecting. I can’t stop seeing American success as an illusion to keep people as cattle or working cattle… The real wealthy get to use them all because it’s like the nation is just a service. We get sold to the highest bidder.
The options are run or fight.
And your scenario seems to eliminate run as an available option.
Go for it.
Your ignorance of American culture doesn’t offend me.
American culture? What’s that then?
Simple.
The billionaires decide.
You can blame the whole of the US population if you like, but voters here only have any power on the local level. National elections are wholly driven and decided by the billionaire class (which is why you saw both Democrats and Republicans fight so hard against Mamdani), so to me, it’s a tad absurd to pretend that the people as a whole support this. That’s even more true when you look at the 2025 and 2026 elections (so far), where nearly all of the candidates backed by Donald have lost, regardless of the state, and most in districts Donald won by double digits in 2024. (Demonstrating that people do not support the war in Iran or the pedophile coverup.)
Hell, Donald can’t even gerrymander anymore, because the Republican Party can’t accurately project where they have voter strength. That is the incredible extent to which people are opposed to this.
And you make yourself sound ignorant by pretending otherwise in the face of all of these facts.
The downside is that, since the Epstein Class controls politics at the national level, the opposition party doesn’t really oppose anything, but there are a few candidates with some strength that could do some limited good, like Graham Platner.
We did this.
Trump is the inevitable result of liberals spending all their energy opposing progressives and cooperating with fascists.
The portion of the adult American population that remains blameless is vanishingly small.
We decided at some point to stop enforcing laws on rich people and the whole world is paying the consequence for that. We are mostly the source of most of the aggression on most of the planet, I don’t know about you but I’m old enough to say it’s been 40 years of this shit to my recollection.
We did this.
Speak for yourself. I voted Green.
Trump is the inevitable result of liberals spending all their energy opposing progressives and cooperating with fascists.
That’s a salient point, but the ‘we’ you’re pointing to isn’t a part of this. Billionaires and the Epstein Class are who the finger should be pointing at. Voters only have any real power at the local level, unless you’re planning to follow in the footsteps of Player 2.
We decided at some point to stop enforcing laws on rich people
Again, I’d argue there’s no we here. The only power you or I have is in our local neighborhood, and in mine, we’re doing good things. Hell, my city was one of the few to put a killer cop behind bars. (And in the US, you can count on your fingers the number of killer cops who’ve spent any time in prison.)
I voted green
Then you did do this lmao
the people who voted for trump got trump elected.
A very useful comment. Thank you, and have a lovely Sunday.
Also, and this is really fun, I literally predicted this in September 2024.
About as useful as your vote?
Depends where he lives. I always vote third party, but every district I am in is gerrymandered, and my state is not within 10 points of competitive for president, so my votes do not matter other than getting third parties on the ballot.
That seems like something you guys should have been more proactive about.
Jill Stein is a Russian asset and anyone who supported the green party in 2024 is a cuck who got trump elected. Even if your vote didn’t matter, you contributed to the dialogue and publicity they got for their blatant effort to split the vote. We shouldn’t have only 2 parties, but in the current system voting 3rd party is performative at best and genuinely dangerous at worst.
There are other 3rd parties.
oh, are you from someplace free of zionist influence? Wheres that?
edit: oh I see from your comment history that you’re from the UK. Your government is as big of a joke as the US is. Isnt your arcraft carrier over there doing Americas/Israels bidding right now? Glass houses, friend.
westerners*
europe is complicit, and ever perpetrates some of their evil.
