Wow they haven’t even made it good enough for me to use yet and they are already enshittifying it?
I mean… maps has been kinda shitty for years!
It’s still better than Wayze trying to sell you burgers and fries at every stop sign… but you need to tap the search box like 3 fucking times to input shit, and why is that? So you have ample opportunity to see Crapple’s list of “suggestions….“
And have you noticed that you need to zoom down to AntMan scale to see the names of some businesses in a shopping center, and yet others are virtually visible from orbit? Could it be that businesses that pay Apple stick out like a sore thumb, and business that don’t virtually disappear? Nah… Fucking Apphole behavior.
It’s time to face facts, Apple stopped giving a shit about the customer years ago. Before their headquarters was literally a Bond villain’s donut you could drive through their parking lot and it was a sea of shitty rust buckets, executive parking lot underground.
I was giving serious consideration to going Android again rather then buying a 2K+ tablet… but then I need to buy a new watch and phone at the same time to have a slim chance of interoperability so it’s basically a wash.
Fuck Apple.
Unfortunately it’s the best option in Germany after Google threw a tantrum over privacy laws here. However OpenStreetMap is getting better.
Comaps is available for iphones :3
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/comaps/id6747180809
also for others:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/app.comaps.fdroid/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.comaps.google
I’ve looked at apps like these and weirdly it’s just map you can search through. There’s no turn by turn directions.
It very much has routing, route saving, turn by turn instructions, voice instructions and more. Idk what you mean.
I couldn’t get it to work. Is it only in Europe that works?
I dont use apple devices so i cant test it, but i thought it would be identical to the android experience. Ima take some screenshots one sec.
I tried 4 of these damn things over the past few days 2 were ad filled nonsense. This looks like a reskin of something else I tried. It doesn’t have turn by turn.
Are you sure you are using the app that i linked to? Because you can clearly see in the screenshots on the app store that it has turn by turn instructions.
Comaps is a fork of organic maps but neither has ads and they are basically identical feature wise.
Turn by turn only works when you have location turned on of course.
Okay don’t turns out I had to download the maps first and then it kinda works. Voice selection isn’t working right but will likely be fixed eventually. I just need to get used to it. Thanks.
A little confused, is this basically the same thing as Open Street Maps, just in app form?
They use OSM as source for maps, yes.
Not sure how much they add, aside from offline functionality.
Other apps add extra data sources.
Yep it uses a selection of the most important data from OSM because the entire thing would be too huge to keep on your phone. You download the map in sections so region/city based but you can also just get an entire country which will be a few GB.
It can import/export bookmarks and record and import gpx tracks. Has TTS support and you can even edit things (like opening hours and stuff) if you have an OSM account.
That article slurps Apple’s nutsac for having such a great moneymaking idea! Fuck ads. Tired of everything being a vessel for marketing.
It’s already been working like garbage lately. Wonder if this is related.
I think this is great news.
Apple has been providing an amazing service for free for too long and they deserve to finally make some money.
Is that you, Tim?
Can you please bring back the mini, at least every few years like the old SE? I missed my chance to buy one.
Best I can do is the SE/30, in peach, tangerine, and cerulean.
That’s a good point, but is it free? Can I use it without giving Apple any money, or do I need to have an Apple product to run it on?
I’m pretty sure you can run maps on a hackintosh so I think you can run it without giving Apple any money.
Can I run it on my Apple IIe?
they deserve to finally make some money
On top of the literal $100 billion a year they already make? The poor souls.
finally make some money
first to reach 1T
those poor scrappy startups, they need to finally turn a profit
Finally somebody here standing up for the little guys.
Time to dust off my old folded paper maps.
I can sell some of the duplicates I have. I’m gonna be RICH!
You can buy up to date ones at the gas station still
What a piece of crap, this thing didn’t warn me about the bridge being closed and jammed up because of a car fire. Stupid paper…
I am willing to bet there is still a radio in your vehicle, and very likely a local news station with traffic and weather reports.
If the goal is to avoid ads, a radio station is the absolutely worst option.
At least they are only one-way. They won’t be getting any private info or tracking data out of you.
how ever did people live and get around before the mobile spy tracking hardware was in everyone’s pockets.
shocker, your time isn’t really as valuable as you think it is…
I left on a trip to San Francisco and forgot my STREET maps but I did have an aviation map so I used that.
It did NOT have the freeway numbers marked. I got there looking for water towers and radio towers and bodies of water. I managed OK.
Back to the basics: Start carrying a yellow pages book with you so that you can find addresses of various businesses. If you need restaurant descriptions, you need one of those tourist guide books too.
In my town restaurants come and go so fast the yellow pages are basically always obsolete.
Nah fuck that shit. If I have to, I’ll whip out the ole Garmin and upload the latest maps to that bitch and go.
Dude someone mentioned this the other day and I pretty mu h went all in on Garmin GPS since then.
I want to use comaps and organic maps and magic earth and all that but they just don’t work well for me but the Garmin is on point.
Plus they say they don’t sell your data. But even if that’s a lie I bought it used off Craigslist so its “Johns” data now.
Lol I used to think they scrapped the maps app entirely. Surprised it still exists. Who even uses it outside the US?
I’m not even an apple user but i use their maps as an alternative to gmaps on ddg.
I throw a lot of shit at Google but Google Maps is the best piece of software they have ever created. I wish OSM was this upto date with their data but it has a long way to go. I think this that piece of software which needs a big dedicated team or at-least paid volunteers instead of community volunteers because there ain’t no way I am going out to volunteer for free to map out my neighbourhood accurately.
I throw a lot of shit at Google but Google Maps is the best piece of software they have ever created
Agreed but that is not really saying much considering Google’s resources and how often the fuck everything up
because there ain’t no way I am going out to volunteer for free to map out my neighbourhood accurately.
because you enjoy corporate oversight and ads? or because you don’t see the benefit to you personally?
because you enjoy corporate oversight and ads? or because you don’t see the benefit to you personally?
Bruh. Everything doesn’t have to be political. I simply don’t have the time, energy and willingness to learn and contribute to a project which people in my community are not even going to use. The incentive simply isn’t their for anyone when there is already a perfectly working solution—as much as I hate to say—from Google. I wish OSM and the maps & navigation apps using it were more popular and better but they aren’t simply because they don’t have dedicated teams.
Google Maps also get contributions from the community (which is much larger than OSM). So google benefits from volunteer contributions as well as their own teams mapping stuff around the world which OSM can never match. It isn’t something like Search, Drive or Photos that can be replaced by a community driven FOSS alternative. It requires huge funding.
The incentive simply isn’t their for anyone when there is already a perfectly working solution—as much as I hate to say—from Google
So you enjoy corporate oversight and ads? or at least they don’t bother you enough to seek alternatives?. It’s not political, I am spelling out what you seem to be trying to avoid saying.
I wish OSM and the maps & navigation apps using it were more popular and better but they aren’t simply because they don’t have dedicated teams.
But you don’t wish it enough to contribute in any way…
Google Maps also get contributions from the community (which is much larger than OSM). So google benefits from volunteer contributions as well as their own teams mapping stuff around the world which OSM can never match. It isn’t something like Search, Drive or Photos that can be replaced by a community driven FOSS alternative. It requires huge funding.
I think you are just doubling down on this to convince yourself that it is not that you are being selfish here, you are just being smart by not choosing a losing battle you made up in your head.
Whatever helps you sleep at night :)
Mapping your neighborhood is actually a lot of fun if you use StreetComplete! Nice way to get outside and explore.
and a shitty one at that… DDG was good, now it’s just Bing + Apple maps which is bad on both fronts
Pretty much everyone?
Edit: D’oh, I thought this was about Google maps. My bad.
This was the only reason I used it.
On to the next!
“Apple cares about your privacy”
Not from THEMSELVES, never from themselves.
Stop using Apple
Your address is incorrect. You need to drop the s off of it
Ooops, thanks for pointing it out. I have corrected the post
How’s their route algorithms? Never used it for navigation
OSMAnd+ is a good app. Using openmaps. You often Ned the address of where you are going since place searches of businesses may no come up. But the navigation has been good.
This is why Apple users pay more to not use Google stuff…
Fuck this.
Default search engine? Google. Apple Intelligence? Believe it or not, also Google.
I don’t use any of those
Yup. The first thing i do when i get a new machine/reinstall MacOS/iOS is to change it from google. Fuck google so fucking hard. Anyone who uses Google deserves what they get knowing how much of a shitstain company they are. Apple isn’t that much better, but they are slightly, SLIGHTLY better.
Yes these ads suck, but these are not targeted ads based on your entire history of personal data which is google’s entire business. these are ads shown based on your current location in the maps app. theoretically everyone in your vicinity is getting the same map ads.
Maybe but you give them an inch and in a few years the ads will be targeted
So… never read Apples privacy policy huh?
doubt
also, fuck ads. people are trying to find destinations, not be sold trash from some shitty corporation like mcdonalds or whatever. don’t care the purpose, or the reasoning… if there’s ads, it’s bought and paid for by some jackoff corp that can rightfully fuck off to high hell.
yes I agree, fuck ads, but fuck targeted ads even harder. The point is if you’re deliberating between apple and Google based on the ads, apple is still not as bad as google. it’s not a binary ads vs no ads issue.
If you’re deliberating between Apple Maps and Google Maps, the only advantage Apple ever had was the lack of ads. Apple’s data is worse, routing is worse, navigation UI is worse (which of the lanes should you be in right now for your next turn), etc. It’s astounding that Apple would enshittify this right now when they’re not even close to being a decent replacement for the primary competition.
it’s always binary fuck all ads issue for me
as i said, “if you’re deliberating between apple and Google” which is how this conversation started.
I prefer Apple Maps because it’s not ad laden but the coverage for businesses simply isn’t there, and it is pretty aggressive about populating businesses that don’t really exist (ie the business registration not the place of business, if they have one eg Plumber who doesn’t have a shop), don’t exist in the category (eg a factory isn’t a retail establishment), or just plain don’t exist. It also likes to ignore the actual road name for directions; instead of “take the exit towards A361 Burford Rd”, it says “take the exit to Diddly Squat Market” because some street view scanner picked up a sign and chose the wrong one.
If they start pushing ads, Google wins in “find me dinner nearby”.
My one deal breaker that keeps me on gmaps over Apple is the forced yelp integration. I refuse to install yelp and to get any meaningful information it tries to open the app.
Gmaps has a way better UX imo.
Yeah that also is awful. Can’t learn anything about the place without getting accidentally redirected to the App Store.
the difference with google is they’re collecting and montetizing all that data on you whereas apple is doing non-targeted ads.
Do you work for apple? You’re all over this thread shilling.
Nothing like free software
Serves anyone using that garbage right.
