He said that the tariff is $1 per barrel of oil, adding that empty tankers can pass freely. “Once the email arrives and Iran completes its assessment, vessels are given a few seconds to pay in Bitcoin, ensuring they can’t be traced or confiscated due to sanctions,” Hosseini added.
I heard they are also accepting iTunes gift cards.
Just make sure you don’t redeem them
DO NOT REDEEM!!!
WHY DID YOU REDEEEEEEEM!?!?
Cool, now we can add global extortion to cryptocurrency benefits.
it’s a fucking toll you dingus those are iranian waters
No it’s not it’s an international trade route they’re just being Pricks because anything to piss off maga
Those iran’s waters. These ships are literally passing through their country, I think you’re confused with “territorial waters” as defined in UNCLOS as well but neither Iran nor the US nor pissrael ratified that treaty. Here is a good opinion on why the UNCLOS doesn’t really apply
https://www.simplelaw.blog/p/the-strait-of-hormuz-a-3-minute-international
Have you read your link?
Geographically, the Strait of Hormuz is clearly what’s called a transit passage** strait**: it connects two open seas, has no alternative route, and is one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. Under transit passage rules, other countries have an almost unrestricted right to sail and fly through. Iran can barely interfere at all.
yes
Iran is right about which rules are universal (innocent passage, not transit passage). … The U.S. is also not a party to UNCLOS.
International customary law applies even if you’re not a treaty member.
** Iran is right about which rules are universal **
I don’t know how much clearer it gets??? Who’s gonna argue that UNCLOS is universal anyway? The US or pissrael? Neither of which are party to the UNCLOS and who very much assert authority outside their territorial waters?
Up to 200 nautical miles from the coast is nation’s territory.
I’m surprised Elon didn’t convince them to take the payments in Dogecoin…
Why would they ever listen to that dumbass, who’s involved with the countries attacking them?
That shit only works in white idiots
No Uncle Sam’s paper dollars? ohh boy
That’s gonna upset Donny Boy
They own a bunch of it, though.
This is good for bitcoin.
and so also for Trump
Bitcoin is for dodging sanctions and the influence America has over the international banking and payment systems. It’s also may shield third parties from sanctions the US may impose on those who transact with Iran.
It also means that if there’s a secondary deal trump’s Bitcoin account get it’s cut right after Iran takes theirs
Reminder that bitcoin is not now nor has it ever been anonymous.
Neither is a bank account though either. And one is sanction proof, the other isn’t.
Doesn’t need to be it’s just irreversible. That’s why north korean randsomeware has worked forever.
It wouldn’t have anything to do with tracing transactions to North Korea being pointless and unactionable I’m sure.
Do they accept Walmart gift cards?
How could that work? Doesn’t it take some time for a bitcoin transaction to get pulled into the chain?
Layer 2 networks like the lightning network operated in the milliseconds time frame.
Doesn’t that require trust in the provider hosting the off chain transactions? And lightning transactions can get preempted by conflicting moves from a wallet, and invalidated? I’m no expert, but it seems like these big regular transactions would be targets for abuse.
A couple minutes?
Yeah, and the article says the shippers are given a couple of seconds to pay in bitcoin.
I mean, all the steps leading up to that take way more than a few seconds, including…getting the email. This seems like someone misspeaking or not understanding what’s going on…
At the size of transactions they’d be doing, it’d probably be worth it to set a high fee so that it gets picked up and processed faster. Should still be peanuts compared to the value of cargo these tankers are carrying
The ships can wait, I guess.
It takes 10 minutes to get a single confirmation, but I’m assuming that it takes more than 10 minutes for a ship to transit this waterway, so it wouldn’t matter.
I don’t imagine trying to trick Iran out of their money is a particularly good long-term strategy anyway. Nothing unless you’re going to turn up in a new ship every time.
Yeah, but the article says they have seconds to pay with bitcoin.
Something tells me the article doesn’t understand the way Bitcoin works. A transaction takes 10 minutes to clear on-chain, unless you’re using the lightning network, and the lightning network is fucking terrible, especially for high-value transactions like this. Because you can be rug-pulled. That and you can’t send high-value transactions on a lightning network because every link in the chain has to have the proper amount of liquidity to make that transaction occur.
People who say that crypto has no application are just thinking inside the imperial bubble.
Nobody doubts that ransom is an application for crypto.
protection money, highway robbery
But there are very good reasons why Bitcoin is very far from mass adoption as an actual currency.
People have always known that crypto who is very good for crime.
Crime was the first adopting use, but not the last. Even the US recognizes its value by having a strategic reserve.
That says “proposed” - not implemented, though?
And if it’s under Trump’s administration, I can’t take anything like that as any indication of reason or sustainability.
Trump is part of crime.
The problem is the volatility. It would destroy most people.
Did they give up using the yuan?
They’re doing both.
Why not Monero?
sigh
I’d absolutely use crypto if it was more available in anything I’d want to pay for. So far it’s mostly just VPNs and donations
People tried that, it failed. It’s too volatile.
It’s basically a way for people to think they are being sneaky and shit when it’s all trackable anyways.
Is it though? Obviously bitcoin, eth, etc. Arent, but xmr and zec would be, no?
To an extent it is but with enough resources and knowhow anything is traceable.
It’s not always about direct traceability it’s the little bread crumbs that get left by everything. Nothing is absolute and everything we think is secure leaks like a mofo it’s just a matter of translating the data.
True, a place like Iran could keep it untraceable, although they would have to take some extra care in order to do so. But for your average person that’s not being looked at by a nation state, it is much easier to remain untraceable.
Correct. Monero would be untraceable.
Honestly, the biggest mistake they’ve made here is that they’re not demanding Monero instead.
Yeah and writer has no idea what they are talking about. One of the core characteristics of Bitcoin is being publicly traceable
I mean it doesn’t even matter that it is. It’s not a secret who the money is going to.
The important part is that it can’t be reversed by a banking authority.
It’s easier for people to get Bitcoin, Iran could deal with the cleaning / mixing themselves after. This is already going to create friction so keeping it lower might help?
Oh, if they demanded Monero, people would figure out how to get it.
theres only like 6.5B usd worth of monero (compared to ~1Trilion BTC)
At 20Milion barrels of oil (/ dolars if its $1 a barrel) a day, theyd own all the monero within a year, meaning theyd have told pretty actively be selling it back onto the market for another currency to keep a supply for shippers to use. Compared to BTC where they’d need 136 years of hoarding to accumulate it all
The huge demand spike would increase the value of any coins quite a bit so your napkin math doesn’t quite hold. It would basically make monero a new petro backed currency.
It’s all about whether Binance lets them cash out or not, but mixing within BRICS is sure to make it clean enough, as Binance getting/keeping sovereign clients is good for Binance, and not worth appeasing US BS to turn it away.
Right? I was like dang you’re already half way there lol.
The reason though is that they probably don’t want to discourage payments because I have seen businesses refuse to use Monero in ransomware attacks because their insurance agreement complicates payout on a fundamentally untraceable currency. Even if Bitcoin is technically decentralized, they can report the transaction and specific currency blocks to whatever federal agency is responsible for fraud.
Still, why not offer both and put a 5% discount on Monero.
That idea of a 5% discount doesn’t sound like such a bad idea.
I never even considered the insurance side there. But it is legit proof of delivery and it gives them at least a chance of recovery if someone fucks up cleaning them.
“can’t be traced” - it’s a public blockchain, though. Everyone can see and trace transactions.
When the money source is clear - it’s the shipping companies - you can trace their transactions.
