I know this is how the fediverse works, and how it has to work. But maybe we shouldn’t be advertising this tool right now when the right is trying to dox people and get them fired/deported for liking a kirk meme.
unless they’re defederated or blocked by gregtech.eu
Apparently I upvote a thousand times more than I downvote.
That is really concerning. Activity Pub should have a mechanism to hide those. If by any chance, one’s identity is reviled, their entire behaviour history would be out in the wild. The more one use an account, the more information is getting shared. Social engineering is a real thing.
The only way is it be absolutely private by not interacting (lurkers), which is not good for a social media like Lemmy or by changing accounts often.
No we shouldn’t. Anyone can create an instance and scrape whatever data.
Assume that all the posts and comment you make are public and linked to your real identity and don’t say things you wouldn’t say in person.
It’s a pretty simple concept.
Shame, guess I can’t say categorising Palestine Action as a terrorist group is dumb.
My comment was misguided because it didn’t take the US social context into account.
You can’t say it, but I can though.
Categorising Palestine Action as a terrorist group is ultra dumb.
You may want to be careful then if you need to travel through the United States.
I know that already, I’m fine with what I said.
Oh god this discussion again… We totally haven’t had this before:
- https://lemmy.world/post/34224572 (exact same discussion literally last month)
- https://lemmy.world/post/18813833
- https://lemmy.world/post/18805474
- https://lemmy.world/post/480760
That is really concerning
The only way is it be absolutely private by not interacting…
I don’t know if this is news to you but this is not a lemmy specific problem and basically applies to the entire internet…
If by any chance, one’s identity is reviled, their entire behaviour history would be out in the wild.
So close to a sweet meter. What do you think of
“If, by some chance, one’s handle’s reviled / their foul history would be out in the wild.”
? It’s not perfect. Probably just a little more work-shopping.
Now I’ll know which of you goons don’t like my jokes.
Nothing private about the fediverse
Except the ability to register an account without any personal details. Which makes it completely private if you want.
anonymous, not private. the two ideas are not the same.
you should also always assume a sufficiently willing person can find your identity, don’t post anything sensitive online, don’t post anything that would encourage those with resources to find your identity, and if you’re e.g. a politician then only post online to explicitly non-anonymous accounts. If you have a protected identity/location/that stuff, just don’t post online at all.
I get really surprised going through my up- and downvotes. Seems sausage fingers and mobile app leads to interesting votes sprinkled in with the ones I’ve actually voted for.
Pretty neat layer of obfuscation, though I can’t imagine being interesting or infuriating enough for anyone to go through my voting history.
If it were to happen, I hope it’s because of some shitpost of epic proportions.
There was another instance that revealed all the data by post/comment. Far more useful to see if s post is getting brigaded, etc, or to see maybe if you have a wierdo stalker.
I just can’t remember what the instance was.
Yeah, every once in awhile I check my starred pages just to see what random things got fat fingered onto it. It’s mildly amusing.
Seems like a fantastic stalking tool for anyone looking to check if you have been a model of social media purity. I’d be shocked if it got used to find derisive upvotes by authorities looking to screen individuals for political reasons. But hey, call me paranoid.
If you’re really worried about that, there’s no reason why you need to have your private details associated to your account. You can even have a “clean” main account for show and a “real” secondary account.
Your votes being public is only a problem if your account can be associated with you.
I just had a realization. A lot of content on the fediverse that we interact with is region specific. A user could have no identifying info in their comments or profile but still get doxxed because they upvoted a post associated with things like their job, their home state, places they frequent, medical conditions.
Do you suppose this got posted today because there is a doxxing project happening right now on 4chan?
I have no doubt it’s incredibly easy to dox someone from upvotes alone. Maybe not on lemmy because interactions are just a lot more infrequent, but on reddit if you upvote posts about Omaha Nebraska, retro game collecting, Subaru wrx, and e bikes, you really narrow down your choice of people. If you just had one other bit of information about the user, like just a general photo or where they went to high school you could definitely nail someone down.
I really do hate this part of the Lemmyverse and wish it was all obfuscated. That with it being impossible to delete your posts really limits how much I want to interact with the site.
This doesn’t really make sense. What you say is only identifying if you already have this information about someone. If you already do have all this info about someone, what else do you need?
That is pretty dark. I was hoping the admin would take people’s safety a little more seriously but I guess it’s going to be on us to make sure word gets around a lot more
This is a foundational restriction with how federation works and was discussed back during the exodus from reddit when they cut off their API. Votes can’t be federated without identity attached, or you’d end up with a single vote multiplied by however many instances federated it to yours.
This is the price of the fediverse being uncensorable. Everything you do on it is oublic, and norhing can be reliably deleted from the entire fediverse.
There was some efforts to obsfucate voting by one of the m/kbin lemmy alternatives, to have each account have an associated hidden account with a randomly generated name that would technically be the account used for voting, so only the admin of your own instance could connect between your public account identity and your voting identity, but that could also just be defeated by basic pattern identification.
As far as instance admins are concerned, this has been known from the start, and is completely outside of their control. That said, it could definitely use some more signposting for awareness. It’s shocking how often this entire discussion gets repeated by people who apparently never thought to look into how federation actually works.
You’re right. I’m pretty sure now that I may have even asked this all before but lost it because I have goldfish memory.
It can be blocked at the instance level by an admin defederating with them.
Oh god this discussion again… We totally haven’t had this before:
- https://lemmy.world/post/34224572 (exact same discussion literally last month)
- https://lemmy.world/post/18813833
- https://lemmy.world/post/18805474
- https://lemmy.world/post/480760
Good to know. I keep jumping between instances during outages and I’m worried in upvoting stuff twice
I don’t get it. Is this the Lemmy version of Reddit’s karma?
