- cross-posted to:
- legalnews@lemmy.zip
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
- cross-posted to:
- legalnews@lemmy.zip
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
Spotify and several major record labels, including UMG, Sony, and Warner, secured a $322 million default judgment against the unknown operators of Anna’s Archive. The shadow library failed to appear in court and briefly released millions of tracks that were scraped from Spotify via BitTorrent. In addition to the monetary penalty, a permanent injunction required domain registrars and other parties to suspend the site’s domain names.
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That was quick. This took a few months, while artists have been dealing with AI stealing their work for years now.
Always remember that, in the eyes of the law, the real crime is being poor.
its 185.178.208.181 btw
AI still out here taking everything. Only the corporations can steal. Maybe they didn’t like that it was then given to people for free, instead sold again.
Maybe they didn’t like that it was then given to people for free
Yeah, I mean, it’s mostly that.
To go even further, Anna’s Archive has a section for LLM training that the big ones use. Apparrently it’s okay if they use data that has been ruled to be illegal.
We sued people. Well, I think. Since the people are unknown. They didn’t show up, so we won. Now unknown people need to pay whatever we say they should pay.
Great job, let’s pat ourselves on the back. We fought the man and won.
now this is what resistance looks like and i would hazard a guess they’re not commies
We fought the man and won.
I think Anna is a woman’s name. /s
huge if true
Presented without comment.
Presented without comment.
Misogyny makes you think all your worthy enemies are male
woof…
Isn’t is weird that being prejudiced against women is often called misogyny and being prejudiced against men (like in the case above) is also called misogyny?
I don’t see how the above exchange is misandry
Me neither. No one claimed it was.
Be quiet about that, if they hear it’ll reduce their list of suspects by half!
In addition to the damages award, Rakoff entered a permanent worldwide injunction covering ten Anna’s Archive domains
Bahaha, Fuck Off. The world doesn’t recognize your authority.
Watch how many will bend the knee
They did it guys!!! Piracy no more /s
Only billionaires and friends allowed
Gee I wonder why warehouses keep catching fires lately…
These greed demons make me more of a socialist everyday. America is fucked in this AI race. If only the .001%% can create AI by owning all the property rights, how do they expect a society to collaborate & innovate?
ChatGPT play a song that sounds suspiciously like enter sandman.
Yeah I’m sure that will keep it offline.
So uh, do they have a list of domains that should be blocked then? One that we can check out to… uh… ensure our kids aren’t going there and stuff.
they did this publicly. they attached their names to it. pretty much everyone was saying that it was a horrible idea to do so. they did it knowing it wouldn’t only effect them but also piracy as a whole. i’m angry at them for being fucking idiots sure but like genuinely this could be a massive problem for all of us. thanks Anna’s Archive, you really showed them /s
They didn’t even respond to the charges, which are unenforceable.
“Charges” don’t get “enforced”. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
Requiring domain registrars and other parties to suspend the site’s domain names is unenforceable?
Not all domain registers are under their jurisdiction. And domains change constantly.
literally in the article
At the same time, however, it is not guaranteed that the site’s domain names will be suspended.
As reported previously, several domain names, including the Greenland-based .gl version, are linked to registries and registrars outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. court. As such, they previously did not comply to the preliminary injunction, and it is unknown whether the latest order changes that.
i’m angry at them for being fucking idiots sure but like genuinely this could be a massive problem for all of us.
I’m confused by your comment and several people have upvoted it so I guess I need to ask what you’re talking about. I started quoting but it’s just reposting your comment basically. Do you think Anna is the perp they’re suing? Are you saying it’s public because it’s a website and not a torrent or such? (there are like…tons of websites for streaming and downloading pirated stuff…)
How is this a massive problem for all of us? How is this different from any other website posting pirated stuff and getting taken down/legal action against them over the past like… 2 decades? Rereading the article didn’t make anything clearer, I’m genuinely just confused on what you’re saying.
well i’m not some fuckin legal expert or anything i’m just giving my thoughts on the internet.
“Anna’s Archive” is literally named in the suit, the people who run it are anonymous yes. they didn’t respond to the charges yes. they didn’t show up in court yes. but they are named in the suit. so yea
I’m saying it’s public because they called a lot of attention to themselves that they had 100tb of data connected to a very aggressive corporation that basically has infinite resources with the help of the largest media conglomerates in the world.
Leaks and piracy are often conflated, especially when talking about legal precedents. But leaks are not piracy. You are not pirating it, it wasn’t even for sale in the first place at that point. It was literally just stolen. When punishments for leaks happen, especially big eye catching suits being won with literally no pushback it often emboldens already untouchable media conglomerates in their other blatantly illegal “copyright abuse enforcements.” I just don’t wanna see piracy become even more annoying because of fucking leakers peacocking and being called “pirate activists.”
Again leaks are not piracy. That’s also not how piracy websites work. I’m gonna guess you’re referring to websites allowing you to watch movies and shows for free, those websites are just fancy link aggregates. They do not host any of the pirated content, they just link to it. (Also the content they’re linking to isn’t hosted centrally, further wrapping it in a web that is generally much less worth tracking. Torrents are valuable yes, but only when you don’t do stupid shit like Anna’s.) They maintain that degree of seperation because they are not fucking idiots.
Hope that cleared some things up for you
I have mixed feelings. I do support the Swartz-influenced “information should be free” perspective, and I acknowledge that progressing toward that end requires popularizing a sentiment that influences the democratic process, while it still has some teeth.
But, no doubt popularity casts a spotlight on all data sharing, and link aggregators don’t have as much skin in the game as file hosts. Enabling easy access accelerates the war on information access. Perhaps it’s naive to think piracy and/or information sharing can compete with the deep pockets of capitalist stakeholders. However, I also think this conflict is inevitable as it becomes cheaper and easier to ID all users on a network. I wonder if the time is nigh for the activism that underpins a lot of the information underworld to play out. We are clearly in the acceleration phase of the human arc. Piracy becoming “annoying” is the least of our problems.
I initially downvoted you but then upvoted because I do think your comment relevant and interesting to think about.
Looses
Where exactly have they lost a game that hasnt even ended?No. They aren’t letting animals loose. They lost their court case.
Weird way to correct way to make me aware of a grammatical error but appreciated either way
I was clarifying how to use loose vs lose using context. If you’re going to correct someone be sure your correction is correct.
I recently cancelled my Spotify subscription and just downloaded all my music. It’s a bit of initial effort, but the experience is so much better.
I wonder how far will people need to be pushed before price and restrictions outweigh convenience.
I’ve given them 2.5k
Yep same here, used an extension to read my Spotify library and turn them into youtube .mp3’s, then went in and redownloaded any that got messed up or were live versions not the album song, and now I just add songs using NewPipe as they come up!
So, this sentence says it’s actually illegal to download copyrighted material through shadow libraries, I get it and now I wonder what could this mean for Meta’s AI case?
They don’t care and will continue to do it.
Same
Why? Is there anything good in there?
