If oil shortage is severe enough and long lasting, we might see passenger ships coming back for transatlantic travel. How badly do you need to cross the atlantic?
Based on what I know of cruise ships, I would bet that an ocean liner across the Atlantic wood burn even more fuel than a plane for the same number of people.
Rough calculation indicates that it would take about 3,000 gallons of fuel per person to go across the Atlantic.
My undersranding is plane is one of the most polluting mode of transportation, all things being equal. It probably vary a lot depending on the specific ship/plane, route, …
Sign me up, but only if it involves duck trains. It’s like a bunch of limo duck boats with couplings. Perhaps hydrofoils—high efficiency, relatively low load—could be a good fit. I would ride on a solar duckfoil.
Good! Use trains.
Please let me know when the bullet train across the Atlantic and Pacific gets finished.
Why would an European need to cross the Pacific? Asia is reachable by land.
Do you really need to ne there or would s call be enough?
Well my mother who’s in her 80’s lives 16,000 km so fuck me if she gets sick.
Ok? So the answer would be “No, a call wouldn’t be enough” in your case? Why do you get bent out of shape over that?
If oil shortage is severe enough and long lasting, we might see passenger ships coming back for transatlantic travel. How badly do you need to cross the atlantic?
Based on what I know of cruise ships, I would bet that an ocean liner across the Atlantic wood burn even more fuel than a plane for the same number of people.
Rough calculation indicates that it would take about 3,000 gallons of fuel per person to go across the Atlantic.
I’d be interested into some data on this topic.
My undersranding is plane is one of the most polluting mode of transportation, all things being equal. It probably vary a lot depending on the specific ship/plane, route, …
Data from the UK’s Department for Energy Securityand Net Zero (2022) shows the carbon footprint is 8x higher for short/long-haul fight than for ferry. (CO2eq per passenger-km). Carbon footprint is strongly coupled with fuel consumption. It’s not quite the same, but I’d expect the ratio to be roughly the same.
It looks like cruise ships [are significantly worse](epn07501.pdf https://share.google/fD7gRD431iLtVZbUU) than airplanes. About four times more fuel.
My family lives a 15 hour flight away, I guess fuck me for not being born in Europe, I should just go back home permanently.
Sign me up, but only if it involves duck trains. It’s like a bunch of limo duck boats with couplings. Perhaps hydrofoils—high efficiency, relatively low load—could be a good fit. I would ride on a solar duckfoil.