• ShadowRam@fedia.io
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    2 months ago

    UK has typically bowed to US.

    France may our only Security Council Veto hope.

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        2 months ago

        FYI the EU is not about military, only about economics.

        The UK has made the recent JEF with sweden and others for example, so no problem joining up militarily.

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        2 months ago

        I think the UK has to have US permission to use our nukes so they’re useless now

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          What in the world makes you think a sovereign nation (UK) has to ask permission from the US to use their military arsenal?! We might have agreements in place, but no way in hell does the US control the UK’s nuclear launch capability.

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            2 months ago

            It’s not as straight forward as asking permission, but you should read about Trident as a missle platform.

            To say the UK has a genuinely independent nuclear deterent is not as clear cut as you’d think. But that’s not the same as being absolutely beholden to the US.

            That all said, we really do need to swap to the french missle system, but that will take time to retro fit the subs.

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            2 months ago

            They did have to ask the USA for permission about giving permission to Ukraine using their Storm Shadows, because the guidance system is from the USA IIRC.

            So not a totally crazy thought IMO.

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            2 months ago

            I’m not expert, just remembered reading something to that effect. The other commenter seems to know more.