Makes it so easy to find the people who don’t give a fuck about women when they suck the Saudi teats so openly
Counterpoint: If America gave a fuck about women it
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Wouldn’t have bought oil from a repressive regime that suppressed woman’s rights for decades and continues to do so.
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Elected a pedophile rapist who engaged in the trafficking of girls.
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Mourned and idolized a man who spread a religiously driven message that women should submit to men.
Unless you’re saying supporting either nation implies a lack of support for women. Which would be an undoubtedly reasonable position.
Perhaps we can have a slightly more granular system than giving a fuck, yes/no, 1 or 0, black and white. May I suggest perhaps we count how many fucks a country has to give for women? On that scale, we would properly see that the US gives far, far more fucks about women than Saudi Arabia. I’ve been there. Do not casually equate the two.
Yes we can have a granular system but then do we acknowledge:
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Saudi Arabia has made more progress in the right direction (though dictator driven) while the US has elected a rapist, pedophile trafficker of girls who is keen on undoing progress on woman’s rights. One who was elected by millions of voters which suggests that many agree with his worldview.
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That neither country respects women, even if one has developed more protections overall.
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Whether your god is Capitalism or a religious deity, women are seen as having less value (monerarily or spiritually).
Please don’t oversimplify my efforts to bring nuance to this discussion. Making a simple ‘Saudi Arabia is worse than the US’ statement without appropriate context opens the door to two inhumane outcomes that I cannot tolerate.
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The dehumanization of people in Saudi Arabia for having perceivably less progressive values. We can disagree with people and their value system without forgetting their humanity. Unfortunately such arguments were used during the colonial era by Western powers to justify inumerable immoral acts.
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The dismissal of challenges faced by women in the US because women in other nations ‘have it worse’.
So while I firmly believe both countries are in the category of ‘Needs Improvement’ I am wary of reductive arguments being used to materially worsen conditions for women both here and there.
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I am intimately familiar with the ongoing hatred for women among Americans. Supreme Court rulings, legislative action, and modern campaigns for a return to lives of drudgery and involuntary childbearing are not even trying to sugarcoat the fact that we are considered lesser beings, despite being necessary for population growth.
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Chappelle has always been tone-deaf about many things, he’s just more obvious about it since he’s older. Glad more and more people are noticing his hypocrisy
He’s also an active stain on his hometown, among other vile behavior. 🤷🏼♂️
In what way? There’s this, and the punching down / anti-trans rhetoric thing, but it feels like you’re talking about something else entirely.
Didn’t he buy up and invest in the entire town and then extort them into doing his bidding or something?
At a Yellow Springs (Ohio) village‑council meeting in December 2021 he warned the council that he would pull his multi‑million‑dollar investment—plans for a restaurant and a comedy club—if they approved a zoning change that would allow new duplexes, townhouses and a parcel set aside for affordable housing. He said
“I’ve invested millions of dollars in this town. If you push this thing through, what I’m investing in is no longer applicable… I am not bluffing. I will take it all off the table.
“I cannot believe you would make me audition for you. You look like clowns… I will take it all off the table.”
His main complaint was that the affordable‑housing would sit right next to the site he intended to develop for his restaurant and comedy club which would affect their commercial viability.
The village council ultimately scrapped the affordable housing plan.
https://slate.com/business/2022/02/dave-chappelle-affordable-housing-ohio-yellow-springs.html
Jim Jefferies, Jimmy Carr, Kevin Hart, Pete Davidson… I was surprised to see these names on the lineup, what a bunch of sellouts.
This is from their contracts (found on https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-30/riyadh-comedy-festival-begins-with-pete-davidson-bill-burr/105833686):
Jimmy Carr isn’t a surprise.
when has Jimmy Carr ever been a surprise?
Do jump scares count as surprises? If so, then frequently.
Jimmy is a cunt. Self admitted.
Yup, that guy just looooves the money. At least he openly admits it in his performances.
He was named in the tax evasion offshore account. The cunt is a traitor to his own country.
I couldn’t give less of a fuck if anyone’s a traitor to their own country in that way. The tax evasion is bad because of ethics, not because he “betrayed his country”. It didn’t have any effect on his lifestyle but he chose to do it anyway, it’s all about him being a greedy fuck and not about Nationalism.
but how the fuck do you enrich yourself and not give back to your country? who else is paying for the police, roads, schools, hospitals, and then you also get to “vote” on how it’s spent? I’m a low-wage broke fuck but I still pay taxes and that’s how the government makes me contribute to everything we all benefit from. Meanwhile, this super wealthy multi-millionare twat does not, and tax evades instead? I’m someone who contributes to, and is hurt when I see my country struggles because we’re all in this together.
You understand me right? that’s why I used the word traitor. he should be jailed and not welcomed in the UK
Pete Davison is just mind blowing. He can’t even make jokes about how SA murdered his Jewish dad, while he sucks the dick of the men who murdered his dad
Who was his dad?
“Peter Michael Davidson was born on November 16, 1993 in the Staten Island borough of New York City to parents Amy (née Waters) and Scott Matthew Davidson. Scott was a New York City firefighter for Ladder 118 who died in service during the September 11th attacks, along with the rest of his unit.”
Ah ok. I thought he might have been a reporter who fell a foul of the kingdom.
Bad title. He’s criticizing the state of free speech in America citing the Jimmy Kimmel cancellation and people fired / cancelled over Charlie Kirk speech.
I don’t think anyone thought he was criticizing free speech. Yes, it’s a bad title, but it’s still hilarious to go to Saudi Arabia and pretend like they have more free speech rights
That’s not what free speech is. The government has never attacked Chapelle for his speech.
His bigoted shit just isn’t funny to GenZ and they don’t mind telling him.
It’s our right to Freedom of Association he has an issue with.
I used to love chapel. Now not so much. He drank the Joe Rogan kool-aid
He also sent strong antivax messages to black Americans. I liked his comedy but he got addicted to money and is a disappointing human.
Aw man Bill Burr went too? Goddammit.
Daily reminder that Burr was never a progressive or ally to leftism, or even humanity broadly.
We just all really loved when he directed his performance against the people who deserve it the most, so that’s what we choose to remember.
Couldn’t have said it better
Daily reminder anyone who makes appeal to collective moralism while denigrating a specific individual is almost invariably an intolerable cunt.
Also Bill Burr is a Legend
Also Bill Burr is a Legend
meh.
He has his weak points. His podcasts during lockdowns quickly degraded to one hour of him watching sports on TV.
If you think it’s “denigrating” to say a celebrity you like wasn’t ever actually a progressive or symbol of leftism, then that’s a skill issue.
If you think pointing this out is an “appeal to moral collectivism” then you need to need to go back to /r/debateme to argue with the other kids who just learned what logical fallacies are.
I was shocked as well. But I have to admit, to a certain extent Bill Burr has a point. Not everyone in that country is part of the Royal family and part of the oppression. And creating a doorway by introducing Western influences most especially Western comedy could conceivably bridge a gap there. However anybody criticizing the United States for attacks on freedom of speech while praising a place like Saudi Arabia needs to go fuck a horse.
Burr and Chapelle and Krusty the Clown are all there because they drove a dumptruckof money to their house. Their not made of stone.
Canyonerooooooooooo!
The crown are making big adult playgrounds for rich people so they can divest themselves of the financial road-to-nowhere that is oil. There’s no morality in this, their people will still be deeply oppressed and no amount of witticisms will change that.
I don’t even really judge Burr too harshly here, but the excuse is paper thin. I’d rather he just not give one and make a joke about how many millions he can’t make cussing out hecklers in Tucson.
I don’t disagree entirely and I’m sure they got a fat check out of it but you’re not going to shit talk SA in SA without getting your head cut off
If ever there was a chance…
Billy Burka argument is total bullshit. They’ve accepted blood money for whitewashing and the whole world begged them to reject it and speak up instead. Close the gap of my ass bro. The only gap that needs closing is his holed brain to understand that this dictorship is fully enabled by his American government against the will of Saudi citizens. Go perform for Putin and Kim Un next.
I don’t want to repeat myself. Read my comment to understand because you sound clueless how this shit works:
If he did it for free, his words might have weight. Might.
So I use to live in Riyadh and worked for a defense company. I left during covid and seen a lot of hate filled shit there. The people in general, were very nice but I’m an American and male.
My wife is not an American or Saudian. She would be harrassed and even hit by the locals. They looked down on her unless I was around.
At work, I would routine run into non-Americans/Saudians. Holy shit did they treat them bad. From forcing them to do degrading stuff or just belittle them in public.
Those were just the “normal” people. The royal family members were on a completely different level. Everyone used encrpyted chat services and if you posted about anything illegal, expect the Matowa (secret police) to visit your ass.
Fuck all those going there and speaking all rosey for blood money.
He made fun of trans people and trans people pushed back.
If you support trans people in Saudi Arabia the government throws you in jail.
I don’t understand how for the last ten years this guy has been allowed to just associate with other comics like he’s not a fucking pariah.
We assume the personas we see on the screen are a representation of the people they really are. If we really saw the truth behind our media we would feel hollow and sad and empty and realize how little substance there actually is in the world, so on some level we choose to believe what we already know to be untrue, because we prefer it this way.
You can’t kayfabe away the actual association. They chose to appear on screen with the guy. That’s not in-character, that is a professional decision.
Or are you saying, “Chappelle is just pretending to be a heel, actually he hates autocrats and loves trans people?”
I’m saying that backstage, they are different people from the ones we think, both good and bad, and who those people are I cannot say, I just know from limited exposure to celebrity that reality as we think we see it is manufactured.
A lot of people you could never imagine being in the same room together will have dinner together or hang out and chill and it’s absolutely mind-blowing the first time you see it and realize what’s going on.
I’m not saying the performances of people like Chappelle aren’t sometimes vile and dangerous, it’s still a professional decision to “be that person” on stage, oftentimes it’s a well-planned professional decision involving agents, long-term plotlines and levels of social manipulation that we like to think we won’t fall for.
My issue (at the moment) isn’t with Chappelle but rather with those who enable, endorse, and platform him. Those who are happier drawing a paycheque than acting with integrity. It does not matter whether the bad things he does are done in character. It does not matter if the people who appear on-screen with him despise him off-screen.
“Everybody out there that’s watching, everybody that’s watching this world? This world is bullshit. You shouldn’t model your life about what you think that we think is cool and what we’re wearing and what we’re saying and everything.” - Fiona Apple.
Because comics are whores
“Right now in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you’ll get canceled,” Chappelle told an audience of 6,000, according to The New York Times. “I don’t know if that’s true, but I’m gonna find out.” He then added, “It’s easier to talk here than it is in America.”
I love your comedy Dave, but the sell-out you’ve become invalidates your position as a truth-teller right when America needs you the most. You built your career on raw talent and hard work without bowing to your masters at Comedy Central, and you don’t need to do this either. If you ever manage to un-sew your lips from the royal prince’s gold-shitting anus, please come back to us.
What happened to this guy? Like seriously. He went away and then came with this fucking terminal brainrot and he just can’t stop saying stupid shit
Dude is a rich fuck who still bitches that other even richer fucks “stole” his money. And my poor ass is supposed to relate. He has been rich for most of his life but likes to pretend he’sa regular guy. He lives on another planet surrounded by bubbles of assistants and staff that kiss his ass
but he can’t say offensive things for shits and giggles. so it is mathematically relatable.
You can’t make observational comedy about being a young and hungry comedian/writer when you’ve spent the last decade being wealthy and out-of-touch.
If he was still clever, he probably could’ve threaded the transphobia needle and either figured a way to make it right or made it so funny that enough people would enjoy it regardless. But now he’s cranky and spoiled by success so he’s just going to get angry, which is even less funny.
he had a chance to switch material towards kind of humor George Carlin started doing later in his career - discussing serious subject matter in somewhat jovial manner with continuous punching up. Instead he chose the worst kind of punching down and when you’re a rich guy mocking the poor and struggling - yeah, that’s just bad.
thx
He got to live in the big house and learned how to stay there.
Dear Dave Chepple, Billy Burka, and the rest of hypocrite moralless indignified sellouts:
You have looted blood money from the taxes of oppressed unrepresented beheaded people in a dictatorship. The executioner asked you to dance to distract the world and cover up the blood of slaughtered protestors and humanright activists for him while he beheads them. And you gladly obliged.
So just answer my questions with your freedom of speech Dave.
You know you were not paid by the “6000” attendees. The tickets cost from $13 to $80 for the whole week with each day featuring more than 1 comic.
So how did you alone get paid $1.6millions Dave? What’s the name of this organizing company? Where did they get this money from which they gave to dance Dave? Why is this Muslim Arabic country overpaying international celebeities to perform there? Not humanright washing… no… no.
What happened to the Saudi citizens who complained about their wealth in billions of dollars going to overpaid LIV athletes, boxing athletes, soccer, esports kids, Hiphop concerts, and now you Dave?
Isn’t he the piece of shit that was enjoying that someone that interrupted his show because of the shit he was saying, got heavily beaten up by security?
Bill Burr is the only one that really got to me. I loved that guy. But I just can’t see him the same way anymore
Same for me. He seemed so… Honest. He walked that line between left and right, not siding. It made me think, “this is a genuine guy”. Fuck me, I guess. Truly affected me more than most things lately. I realise that makes me sound cold, given recent events, but it did. Again, fuck me, I guess.
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He’s dead to me now.
I’ve watched his ignorance and complete separation from humanity occur in lock-step with his increasing privilege and earnings.
He must have been really hurting for money.
