Never mind. I can see a salary interpretation in this. Perhaps that’s what you were aiming for and I was wrong. If so I apologise and agree, his giving up a salary isn’t a spinless act. Bit of a nothingness in the face of his support of genocide though. But, I think the parent comment was making a double entendre of salary and bribe. Starmer is so spineless you don’t have to pay (salary/bribe) him.

I’ll leave having asserted Kier is spinless. Having shown some reasons for why I think he is spineless. And having justified why I think him being spineless is bad.

I was just ignoring your attempt to goalpost shift.

Parent comment:

The country with a leader who accepts any and all bribes + the country with a leader so spineless that you don’t even need to pay him? Who’da thought?

No mention of salary.

Your reply:

Sorry but what do you mean by this? I’m struggling to see how this is bad. Would you rather a leader took all the money they could get their hands on? Because that’s how you end up with Trump.

No mention of salary.

My reply:

You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s support of genocide is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s capitulation to the right is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s ‘island of strangers’ speech is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s refusal to stand up for trans rights is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s appointing of Mandleson is bad? You’re struggling to see how the UK sinking to new lows in the global corruption index is bad? You’re struggling to see… Should’ve gone to Specsavers.

But to answer your false dichotomy. We dont need to chose between a spineless government or a government that “took all the money they could get their hands on”. We can choose a government that is neither spineless or corrupt.

No mention of salary. Your reply

I didn’t say any of that. I’m simply asking why not having to pay someone is a negative? Or makes them spineless?

No mention of salary, a bribe [see parent comment] is payment and corruption.

Because we have both a spineless (see examples in my comment) and corrupt (see headline) government.

You didn’t say those things, but they are the setting for which your comment was made. Kier is spineless, you’re struggling to see why that’s bad.

No mention of salary, eventually you shift the goal posts.

If you don’t want me repeating comments could you please read them? The original goalpost was having a corrupt leader over a simply spinless one, a false dichotomy. Now moving goal posts, be better.

Why does not accepting a salary to be a political leader make someone spineless?

Cause and effect are reversed here. Spineless people do things regardless of payment.

Silly example, I see you’re a spineless person in the playground. I walk up to you and demand your lunch. You, being spineless, give it to me, no payment necessary. Not taking payment isn’t, in and of itself, a noble act. For example there’s a big bully in the playground called Trump, Trump took something from Venezuela, what was Starmer’s response? It was spineless is what it was.

Apply that to a position of leadership, apply that to politics. Apply that to his policies I listed. Do you now understand why I believe him being spineless to be a bad thing?

I understand what you’re saying but I think you’re misinterpreting what I am asking.

I don’t think I am.

I am purely interested in why you think not having to pay a leader [because they are spineless] is a bad thing rather than a good thing

Why do I think a spineless leader is a bad thing rather than a good thing? You’re struggling to see how having a spineless leader is a bad thing just as I asserted.

Which brings us back to my first comment and all the products of this government:

You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s support of genocide is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s capitulation to the right is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s ‘island of strangers’ speech is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s refusal to stand up for trans rights is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s appointing of Mandleson is bad? You’re struggling to see how the UK sinking to new lows in the global corruption index is bad? You’re struggling to see… Should’ve gone to Specsavers.

To be clear, their increasing of corruption is bad too. Which brings me, again, to my first comment:

But to answer your false dichotomy. We dont need to chose between a spineless government or a government that “took all the money they could get their hands on”. We can choose a government that is neither spineless or corrupt.

Because we have both a spineless (see examples in my comment) and corrupt (see headline) government.

You didn’t say those things, but they are the setting for which your comment was made. Kier is spineless, you’re struggling to see why that’s bad.

You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s support of genocide is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s capitulation to the right is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s ‘island of strangers’ speech is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s refusal to stand up for trans rights is bad? You’re struggling to see how Starmer’s appointing of Mandleson is bad? You’re struggling to see how the UK sinking to new lows in the global corruption index is bad? You’re struggling to see… Should’ve gone to Specsavers.

Incredible campaign

Isn’t the opposite true? How do people talk and experience games?

“I played GTA and Michael drove a car off a bridge” Vs “I played GTA and I drove a car off a bridge”

The same doesn’t hold true for other media: “I was watching/reading LoTR and Frodo walked to Mordor” vs “I was watching LoTR and I walked to Mordor”

I prefer spelling it with an extra “Raw”

Russia are shit heels. The US are shit heels. Thanks for playing. Harrasing aggressors like Russia is good actually. Thanks for playing.

I’m on my anticorp march right now and currently targeting Google. Search is done with searxng. Next is docs. Then email. Then Maps. Then the behemoth that is Amazon.

Please tell me the piece was called “who’s afraid of RedAI”

If genAI is a tool, can you tell me what exactly it is that it does?

Just to be clear, you just learned that GenAI can be used as a tool to help someone interpret text? Well at least you learned something.

This is what I mean by hyperbole being "AI-bad"s own undoing. You know AI as tool can do things. You try use what it can do as insult, but sadly all you do is errode your own credibility. It is funny though.

I suppose it’s better you’re here. You could have been out there repeating history

The point of learning long division is so you understand it. Once you understand it, THEN you can use the calculator.

That wasn’t my experience of learning long division. Not a lot of time was spent on understanding the process. A lot of time was spent on repetition, repetition, repetion until it was wrote. The division button on the calculator was faster, does offload my thinking, but it’s easier and gave more accurate results. Using my calculator in long division class would have been considered cheating though, offloading my thinking like that.

But counter to that, I also spent a lot of time in Dreamweaver chasing the dotcom bubble that popped before I entered the job market. Even with the pop we see websites everywhere for everything.

No. The corollary of my luddite argument is that tools are tools. Attacking the tools don’t work to solve systemic problems.

If genAI is a tool, can you tell me what exactly it is that it does?

See my first comment for one example of students using it as a tool.

See, the “AI bad” people are funny. In a reply to comment about how people are actually using GenAI as a tool to achieve their goals “If genAI is a tool, can you tell me what exactly it does”? I must say, admitting to not not having a clue what genAI even does is a massive hit to your credibility on this topic. But to answer your question about what it is that generative AI does as a tool: it generates things. Pictures, videos, text, music, it generates things.

It is a shame the airways a late clogged with this nonsense instead of how the wealthy are using tools, any tools, to concentrate wealth.

Look, GenAI is a tool, use it for what you think it’s useful for (even if you think that’s nothing). Let others use it for what they think it’s useful for. But for the love of god, attack the system not the tools.

Someone just told me that Ecco the Dolphin, by virtue of not having AI, is saving the planet. There really should be a comm devoted to the things AntiAI peeps say.

I didn’t really say AI bad,

Implying GenAi gives wrong answers isn’t saying AI bad?

If you ask AI the same question twice you get 2 answers, different AIs give different responses, different prompts, different people, different geography.

That’s true of people too, and we trust them to do all sorts of things. Ask 20 people what happens after you die, how many answers are you getting? Not just that ask any technical question, ask 4 beekeepers the best way to do a thing and you’ll get 5 answers.

GenAI is a tool, if you try use it to hammer in nails you’re gonna have a bad time. Don’t try use it to hammer in nails.

It turns out wrote answers to wrote questions is something it does fairly well, and it’s still getting better. That’s good, as a society we’ve moved past wrote answers to wrote questions. We should now prepre kids for the society they are going to grow up in, one with GenAI. Critical thinking is something it does fairly poorly, critical thinking is something we do fairly poorly, let’s teach that.

Beyond academics, shitty throwaway art is something it can also do fairly well. Just want an image use GenAi, want a master piece get a human. You already do this, how many of your clothes are handmade? Used a milliner recently? The Luddites taught us a lesson, attacking looms don’t work.

I hope I was the last generation to spend hours on long division with quotes of “you won’t always have access to a calculator”. Those that go into fields where long division may be useful should learn it, the rest of us have calculators.

Nah I grew up with the “you won’t always have a calculator in your pocket” crowd.

If AI gets everything wrong then students using it to offload their thinking will get failing grades. AI getting everything wrong is a self solving problem.

But sure, attack the person, not the argument. I’m sure we’ll have a well reasoned discussion.

The AI bad crowd are really tripping up the capitalism bad crowd. I don’t know what to do about it. I don’t want them stop, they’re hilarious:

The post complaining that GenAI is used for CSAM, tools used for CSAM is bad, and the people that use those tools are bad people. The tool used to complain about AI: the internet!!! The internet, famously absent of CSAM.

The constant hyperbole is funny. Not so much the witch hunts. We can all see the post, students using AI to get through classes means AI can get their questions right. The hyperbole is funny.

Accusing anything and everything of being AI is pretty shitty though, knock it off.

But, they do distract from genuine concerns about how capitalism is using tools, any tools, to concentrate wealth. The tools are tools, it’s the capitalism that’s the problem.

I assume everyone here is wearing cloth made on a loom. The Luddites taught us that attacking the tool (the loom in that case, GenAI in this one) doesn’t work.

It’s good that students are using ai to cheat then. We won’t need to detect it as the answers are wrong.

Worked for the dotcom bubble. It blew up and we were left with corporate hellscape internet, not so/interesting independent internet, and the dark web.

AI will blow up leaving a few massive players, the Google/Facebook/etc equivalent. Some independent people doing interesting and not so interesting things. And a dark web.

And it’s an audiobook. What’s there to be distracted by?

The audiobook? The answer was contained in your question. The result varied by type of drive though. They improve drivers during boring drives and well:

Overall, braking times to hazards were higher on the complex drive than the simple one, though the effects of secondary tasks such as audiobooks were especially deleterious on the complex drive.

I thought I saw another study some yesteryear about spacial reasoning tasks demanded by some audiobooks (describing a scene, what a building looks like, where it is etc) impaired spacial reasoning while driving. While music doesn’t use spatial reasoning hardly at at all. That’s why I stopped using audiobooks while driving, but I can’t find it so maybe I’ve been lying to myself all along.

The takeaway: boring drives secondary tasks could be good. Complex drives secondary tasks could be bad. I’ll stick with music but be more readily muting it for potentially interesting interactions. In a use the secondary task to keep focus and identify the hazard, once identified mute secondary task to react to the hazard.

But I play focus games while driving anyway. I don’t indicate out of habit: I reason if there’s someone to indicate to, then decide whether to indicate. I find it forces observations and space/speed reasoning to infer whether my changing direction presents a hazard to someone somewhere.

Oooo this might be the path I take to finally get off IPv4. Cheers. I’ve already set up reverse proxies, but finally updating to 1999 technology seems like a good plan.