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  • You’re living in a fantasy world.

    Says the guy who thinks handing over control of the internet to authoritarian dipshits is going to end well.

    As for kids being ‘allowed’ to see it, dude, seriously? Even before the internet, kids were getting porn in grade school. Again, you’re basing your take on some magical fantasy land, with kids who obey every rule, and citizens who are inherently moral.

    Then this ban serves no purpose.

    Maybe you should worry about how the unfiltered media channels in the US has resulted in your country destroying itself, rather than try to pass judgement on other nations choices to try and support dumb-men from being coerced into being loser incel manosphere andrew tate emulating right-wing drool factories.

    Porn sites aren’t funneling people into manosphere shit. They only direct to more porn and like 80% of it is incest shit at this point so practically everyone is viewing at least some of it. Not just incels.

    your whole country basically plugged its fucking ears and instead of addressing the issue presented by toxic masculinity, you fucktards elected toxic masculine role models who are now dismantling any respect or good will America may’ve had, threatening to genocide entire civilizations and to attack your allies. That’s where your position leads in reality.

    That happened because people aren’t taught to think critically . So no, my position doesn’t lead to this. NOT doing my position leads to it, and again, porn didn’t lead people into that shit either.


  • Not sure how you got

    “Well, I, as an AMERICAN, don’t know this so its WRONG!”

    From

    Never heard of it, and looking it up I don’t see any controversy surrounding it so not sure what you’re referring to here.

    Missing one Netflix show is hardly “Not being aware of other cultures”.

    “let them figure it out themselves, no social supports or regulations! Freedom! Freedom to be techno fascists!!”

    That’s not what I said. I said teach people to think critically so they can distinguish reality from fantasy. That’s the opposite of letting them figure it out on their own, it requires a great deal of input from those around them while they are growing up. The right wing hates critical thinking, they want us blindly consuming anything put in front of us while they censor anything they find objectionable. Sounds more like your stance to me.

    Your comments about 16 year olds being old enough

    I said old enough to know right from wrong. Not any of the other shit you implied. I didn’t say they were old enough to not be coerced or taken advantage of. 16 year olds shouldn’t even be part of this discussion. They are already prohibited from viewing porn by the draconion ID laws.

    I disagree that 16 year olds are old enough to be capable of fully understanding the influence media has on them (something most american adults don’t even comprehend

    That’s because people aren’t taught to think critically. We’re taught to memorize and regurgitate facts while our leaders try to absolve everyone from responsibility for their own actions by blaming porn, or comic books, or movies, or video games, or whatever the next scary thing of the week is. That has never and will never solve anything.



  • So do you oppose DEI and representation of minorities in media then with the same gusto and ferver?

    No, people producing media can cast whoever they want. I just don’t think it has as much impact on the viewer as your statements implies. People may take inspiration from it but any rational individual understands that what they are consuming is not representing reality whether it’s positive or negative. You may think superman is cool and want to emulate his ideals to try to be a better person, but you’re not going to jump off the roof unless there’s something wrong with you.

    Do you oppose all social programs that aim to correct systemic biases that negatively impact different demographic slices?

    No, and this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    Or on the flip side, do you think that snuff/torture films should be normalised, as they’re just ‘fantasy’ and any sane person should just ‘know’ that you shouldn’t do that sort of thing?

    It’s certainly not my thing but I don’t think they should be censored (assuming the content is fake, otherwise it’s already a crime and there’s already systems in place to deal with that). It is fantasy and you should know not to do that sort of thing. Again real life experience should be sufficient for a person to learn that hurting people is bad.

    “People’ve been dealing drugs forever, and they’re going to continue dealing drugs – it doesn’t matter if 99% of drug dealers depicted in media are black!”. It’s the same principle.

    I don’t know where you got this quote from. It’s certainly not something I said nor do I think that stat is accurate.

    Why do you make an exception for this particular case? My guess would be that it applies more personally to you, and you find that uncomfortable, so you’re trying to defend your preferred dumb monkey content.

    I’m not making any exceptions. My opinion on censorship is consistent for all types of media. If I don’t like something I don’t watch it. I don’t try to emulate everything I see in front of me.

    My guess would be that it applies more personally to you, and you find that uncomfortable, so you’re trying to defend your preferred dumb monkey content. But we’re all dumb monkeys, and we gotta look out for each other.

    I don’t give a shit about incest porn. It’s the same as most of the rest of it just with different labels on the characters. I’m not defending it. I’m arguing that your reasoning for being against it is bad. Because I’m not a monkey and I’m capable of critical thought.

    Hell, the UK had a pretty big “wake the fuck up” moment with the series “Adolescence”

    Never heard of it, and looking it up I don’t see any controversy surrounding it so not sure what you’re referring to here.

    it isn’t up to the impressionable 16 year old kid to make sure he comes of age in a culture that provides a positive sexual environment, but rather it’s up to (presumably) adults/people like you to look out for that kids well being, and ensure he’s not being exposed to misleading tropes.

    16 is certainly old enough to know right from wrong. That said I agree it’s up to adults to provide guidance to younger people. I disagree on the method. We are never going to be able to censor away every piece of objectionable content a kid may run across. What we can do is teach them moral values and to think critically about the differences between media they are consuming and reality. Doing so prepares them for whatever they may encounter and results in a more well rounded individual as a bonus.