Why YSK: If you are a US Resident, don’t lose your Social Security card more than 10 times, or else you might need to respawn 💀
Excerpt from Wikipedia:
In accordance with §7213 of the 9/11 Commission Implementation Act of 2004 and 20 CFR 422.103, the number of replacement Social Security cards per person is generally limited to three per calendar year and ten in a lifetime.
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Avoid paying taxes with this one weird trick
How do we convince sovereign citizens that by claiming, and then burning, all their 10 replacement cards, they get loopholes out of paying federal income taxes?
Give them a federally issued punch card and say after you lose 10 social security cards you get a free sub and chips combo
That’s not the way it works.
Ummm have you ever seen Elon Musk’s social security card??? And how much tax does he pay??? That’s what I thought.
“Never try to argue with an idiot. He’ll drag you down to his level and then win by experience.”
Samuel Clemens
Oh, a gif! I take back everything I said.
Yes you can’tn’t
Checkmate theist
My ass it isnt commie
From what I’ve heard, your rear end has been attacked more than Stalingrad was.
jk
Social security numbers need to be phased out. Such a ridiculous and outdated system.
It’s important to remember social security numbers were created ONLY to track Social Security benefits. And the Social Security Bureau continually advised everyone to please not use them for a way to teach other things, but no one listened so here we are. The Bureau readily admits it’s not designed to do anything else . https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19697506/#%3A~%3Atext=Abstract%2Cas+a+nearly+universal+identifier.
But they’re shit even for that. Part of tracking Social Security benefits is tracking taxes paid to Social Security. Unlike other forms of ID, like credit cards, SSNs have no check digits or other means of error prevention. Take a valid SSN. Change on of the digits. That new number is also a valid SSN. Any random 9-digit number can be a valid SSN.
What this means is that all it takes to screw up any form with an SSN on it is to have illegible handwriting on a single one of the digits. You make a single easy error on an employment form, and now your SS taxes are registered under the wrong number.
I’m also skeptical of the Social Security Bureau’s stance on insisting it wasn’t intended as a broad identifier. OF COURSE it was going to be used as an identifier! It’s the only single ID number that the federal government gives out to everyone. OF COURSE it’s going to be used for that. Such a number is of such obvious and great utility that of course it was going to be used for broader purposes. If you create something of such obvious utility, you have an obligation to make sure it’s made well.
It also really strains credulity when Social Security has an entire system dedicated to allowing third parties to verify SSNs. It’s literally called The Social Security Verification Service.
If the Social Security Administration really didn’t want SSNs being used for purposes other than Social Security, then they could have easily prevented them for being used for such purposes. Think about how your SSN works with your bank. You apply for a bank account. They ask you your SSN. You tell them. But how do they know that this information is accurate? Your bank contacts Social Security! The bank has a form you sign that gives permission for them to as the Social Security Bureau to confirm your SSN. And the Social Security office happily obliges.
The Social Security Administration doesn’t just tolerate the use of SSNs for third party uses. It actively facilitates such third party uses of SSNs.
You’re noticing all the things that have happened since the Bureau have up trying to prevent the usage. Remember there was no way to electronically do anything like this for decades after the SSN was created. And the Bureau has no authority to enforce any kind of prevention, but was forced to support it’s usage as a result of the Federal government lack of action to come up with any other system for the last 90 years.
I was going to say the first thing we’d recognize as a computer didn’t get built until over a decade after SSN’s were established.
Yup. It’s ridiculous that it’s snowballed into this precious secret that you have to give to most employers 🤦🏻
we should just give everyone a uuid.
Right? Children should be minted as on the block chain. They’re basically NFTs.
Huh, at a glance, that might actually be a good use for the blockchain.
Blockchain is a ledger, not a database.
DNA already has blockchain vibes. We could unravel the … transactions if we understood all the code.
DNA
transactions
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Why? Because the system itself is arcane and could be done smarter? Or because the government has no business being able to distinguish between people with the same name? I need to understand this before going into a discussion with you.
Or because the government has no business being able to distinguish between people with the same name?
Seems like an objectively terrible approach, considering people with the same name have gotten the same SSN before.
Such an ID would have to be unique.
That would fall into the first category… Also, wtf? How can the same SSN be issued twice?!? It’s a frigging serial number, not a condom at a whore house.
Sometimes there’s a limited supply of condoms and an endless need ….
SSN is 9 digits long, one billion possibilities. While that sounds like a lot, that’s less than triple the number of Americans currently alive, and there’s a continuous progression of new births and older people passing requiring a continuous flow of new SSNs being used. In an 80 year average lifespan where you are holding an SSN,that continuous usage goes through the available numbers all too quickly.
Even worse, numbers used to be allocated by area, meaning there were a lot of wasted numbers where growth didn’t match expectations, and corresponding shortages where numbers needed to be re-used because of local scarcity
Roughly 1/7 SSNs are issued twice. SSNs are recycled, used multiple times, all that good stuff.
This is why it’s incredibly dangerous when people assume they are unique.
Like you, I am waiting to see what asinine response they give.
Wasn’t going to bother answering because it was an asinine question. Obviously the first one.
so if you want to ruin someones life, just steal their social security card 10 times?
I mean… you could just falsely accuse them of being a terrorist. 🤷♂️
You could just falsely accuse them of being an immigrant.
It’s a legit fear I have going to a protest as a Latino. They say don’t take IDs with you to protests. Bruh, I’m taking my US Passport so I don’t get deported to Guantanamo. No guarantee that will work either.
Your SS card has been redeemed, you have 8 protests remaining. Enroll in citizenship plus for $999,999,999.99 and get 100 lifetime SS card replacements, plus a month of Tesla+ on us!
They say don’t take IDs with you to protests.
The point is don’t lose it in the protest so it gets you identified.
But if you are an at-risk minority group, of course you bring it. Better risk getting identified than getting (unconstitutionally) deported.
40+ years, and I’m still on number one. I laminated mine, because I’m a rebel that way.
I keep mine in an old gift card tin along with my draft card, previous ID cards, backup insurance cards, and a couple other things.
Ah fuck I don’t know what happened to my draft card. If they weren’t okay with giving me a desk job but still insist ob drafting me they’d regret it more than I would (innocent fuckups can be expensive, and few people can fuck up to the extent I can).
What’s a draft card?
In the US men (and I think women now?) are required to sign up for the draft at age 18. You’re given a card confirming you’ve signed up.
Oh I see, it’s a consequence of the US not registering all residents. In Germany we don’t have to sign up for the draft, because the local municipality already has a registry with all its residents names, addresses and birthdates
Well shit, I’m on # 2
Imma steal your cards
Collect 'em all and Become President! 😎
I had to replace mine once. Put it in a safer spot and haven’t had to move it since. I can’t imagine what someone is doing where they’d need to replace a social security card 10 times.
Some people don’t live in the same place all of their lives.
Some people are dumb and carry it in their wallet.
After that they come round and tattoo it onto your forehead.
Yeah, but who cares? I mean, really? I haven’t had a physical copy of my social security card in ages, since it disintegrated in my wallet in college. Memorize the number and move on with your day.
Shiiiiiet I’m like 2-3 away probably lol
The number’s 10 now? It was 3
Is it not the same thing as Canadian SIN?
I don’t understand how can you lose it? It’s just a number. If you forget it, you can login into CRA (Canadian IRS) website and see it there and you can print it if you want for some reason.
My last job required the actual physical card for some reason 🤔
Every job I’ve ever had required me to bring the card so they could make a copy of it.
That’s what I always wondered: the card is a simple printout with no security features, no real verification, no biometrics. In the current day especially, it would be trivial to print one indistinguishable from original. They have no value as an ID card, yet are somehow treated as if they were.
The SS card doesn’t make sense as anything other than a reminder of your number, but it’s sometime treated as a form of ID. It just doesn’t make sense
I never thought about it until retirement, but the only times I’ve ever been asked to show my Social Security card have been to get jobs. Since retirement I’ve had to show my Medicare card but never my SS even though I receive SS payments.
They upped the number to 10? Last time I had to replace mine (about 10-20 years ago), the limit was set to 3.
Maybe they changed it because y’all lose it too much 😁
